Transfer Portal w/IU Interest

[Home Jersey]

Based off nothing but hoping for the best, I bet we sign the 12th and 13th roster spots before the 11th roster spot. Two cheap seniors. A big body Center that probably won't play much unless there's an injury. And a pure PG who does the same.

And for the 11th spot... we go to Europe over the summer for a 4/5 that can play rotation minutes as the third big. 

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, 4iufourever said:

They still need at least 2 bigs that can be help if injuries or foul trouble happen.  You don't want to go into the season with only 2 bigs + Sisley 

They also need a shooter and a ball handler if/when injuries happen.  

We don't have 4 spots available. 

[CSP]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Based off nothing but hoping for the best, I bet we sign the 12th and 13th roster spots before the 11th roster spot. Two cheap seniors. A big body Center that probably won't play much unless there's an injury. And a pure PG who does the same.

And for the 11th spot... we go to Europe over the summer for a 4/5 that can play rotation minutes as the third big. 

We noticed in past years... these spots aren't filled with nearly as good of players as fans think they will be. 

Hatton is probably who we're getting as our last big. And we wouldn't get nearly as good of a player as Enright as that 12th/13th guy as a guard. 

I'm not seeing the minutes you're seeing for the 11th guy at the 4/5. I fully expect Sisley to play 12-18 mins per night. 

[Hardwood83]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Based off nothing but hoping for the best, I bet we sign the 12th and 13th roster spots before the 11th roster spot. Two cheap seniors. A big body Center that probably won't play much unless there's an injury. And a pure PG who does the same.

And for the 11th spot... we go to Europe over the summer for a 4/5 that can play rotation minutes as the third big. 

I like this approach. The back-up PG & C don't need to win games, just need to not lose games. Competent is fine. For center I envision someone like Langdon Hatton from a couple yrs ago. Big body, not flashy, but affordable!  

For that 3rd spot I would LOVE to get a dynamic Wing scorer. Probably tapped out the budget already, but adding an above average SF would make this line-up pop. But if they are comfortable with the committee approach I would be fine with the 4/5 option you described instead. 

[BGleas]

Would love to see a Nick Zeisloft type added with one of those spots. 

[IUCrazy2]

9 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Would love to see a Nick Zeisloft type added with one of those spots. 

Yeah, but being realistic, you don't get that level of player for spots 11-13.  If you absorb enough injuries that you are playing 11 through 13 on your roster, your season is already wrecked.

I think you get one more serviceable big that you pray never needs to go in for more than 5 minutes in a game, ever (and that is only when you are winning by like 40) and then with the last two I would get younger, raw guys that have potential to develop if they stay in your program.  Our main rotation is already on the team IMO.

[4iufourever]

30 minutes ago, CSP said:

We don't have 4 spots available. 

They can have up to 15 on the roster.  They should get at least 3 more to make it 13. 

[Artie86]

43 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

12th and 13th roster spots are basically always break-the-glass-in-case-of-emergency practice players IMO.

If those guys play in real games it usually means you're in some kind of trouble. 

.....or mop up minute because IU's starters have blown the game wide open by 20+ pts and it's under 2 minutes. lol

[IUHoosier5]

Trilly say something?

[Uspshoosier]

19 minutes ago, 4iufourever said:

They can have up to 15 on the roster.  They should get at least 3 more to make it 13. 

Thy will only take 13.    Taking more then 13 messes with the revenue sharing and they won’t do that 

[LIHoosier]

Yeah the last couple spots are gonna be guys that say 'Holy Crap, we get free college for a year!'.

[Artie86]

2 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Yeah the last couple spots are gonna be guys that say 'Holy Crap, we get free college for a year!'.

....and not to mention all the free Adidas gear, shoes, etc....

[BGleas]

32 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Yeah, but being realistic, you don't get that level of player for spots 11-13.  If you absorb enough injuries that you are playing 11 through 13 on your roster, your season is already wrecked.

I think you get one more serviceable big that you pray never needs to go in for more than 5 minutes in a game, ever (and that is only when you are winning by like 40) and then with the last two I would get younger, raw guys that have potential to develop if they stay in your program.  Our main rotation is already on the team IMO.

That's kind of why I specifically picked Zeisloft as the example. 

Remember, Crean took a lot of heat for that pickup. Zeisloft averaged like 6ppg at the mid-major level. He wasn't a guy you had to promise a ton of minutes too, but then he ended up earning them. 

With that said, I agree. One more serviceable big, and then you're looking to supplement any other additions IMO with a specific specialist (ie. Zeisloft type). 

Going back to that same year (2016). The Michigan big that transfered in and was huge in the Big Ten title run. Again, if I remember correctly, he had pretty much fallen out of the rotation for Beilein the year before, and was not a really sought after transfer, but then played a big role for IU. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

27 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Yeah, but being realistic, you don't get that level of player for spots 11-13.  If you absorb enough injuries that you are playing 11 through 13 on your roster, your season is already wrecked.

I think you get one more serviceable big that you pray never needs to go in for more than 5 minutes in a game, ever (and that is only when you are winning by like 40) and then with the last two I would get younger, raw guys that have potential to develop if they stay in your program.  Our main rotation is already on the team IMO.

But the 11-13th spots filled do not and probably should not be filled with that as the mindset.  guys should still compete for playing time.  1-13.  You fill with guys that meet a need and let the best play.  In order to get that on a team that already has good players, maybe you need to go a different route.  euro, midmajor, juco, whatever.  find some talent and encourage competition.  

[tyappleg]

5 minutes ago, BGleas said:

That's kind of why I specifically picked Zeisloft as the example. 

Remember, Crean took a lot of heat for that pickup. Zeisloft averaged like 6ppg at the mid-major level. He wasn't a guy you had to promise a ton of minutes too, but then he ended up earning them. 

With that said, I agree. One more serviceable big, and then you're looking to supplement any other additions IMO with a specific specialist (ie. Zeisloft type). 

Going back to that same year (2016). The Michigan big that transfered in and was huge in the Big Ten title run. Again, if I remember correctly, he had pretty much fallen out of the rotation for Beilein the year before, and was not a really sought after transfer, but then played a big role for IU. 

Put some respect on Max Biefeldt's name

[BGleas]

1 minute ago, tyappleg said:

Put some respect on Max Biefeldt's name

Thank you! Can't believe I couldn't remember his name. He was so important that season. 

[LIHoosier]

2 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Put some respect on Max Biefeldt's name

[fwgreenway]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

But the 11-13th spots filled do not and probably should not be filled with that as the mindset.  guys should still compete for playing time.  1-13.  You fill with guys that meet a need and let the best play.  In order to get that on a team that already has good players, maybe you need to go a different route.  euro, midmajor, juco, whatever.  find some talent and encourage competition.  

Agree, 1-13 should/will compete for time on the floor. Really hard to imagine the staff thinks differently tbh. Assuming this player or that one at this stage won't get time is too early until we see the final roster. And even then the ones that end up at the end of the bench might not be who we expect anyway. Rosters change year after year, so to say which ones stay for more than one year is pure speculation. 

[DSUMMITT]

Hearing some fresh noise on Twitter - did Trilly post something in discord? Use to be on it but so much noise.

Hope it's Bud Clark or a back up center if there's any real smoke.

[mike vannice]

18 minutes ago, fwgreenway said:

Agree, 1-13 should/will compete for time on the floor. Really hard to imagine the staff thinks differently tbh. Assuming this player or that one at this stage won't get time is too early until we see the final roster. And even then the ones that end up at the end of the bench might not be who we expect anyway. Rosters change year after year, so to say which ones stay for more than one year is pure speculation. 

Let me start by saying I am not an insider just happened to check Coach Adragna's Hoosier Portal Tracker and see a new name-Kyle Evans-6'10" PF from UC Irvine averaged 12pts and 8 rebounds and will be a senior. Could he be the third rotational big we are looking for? FWIW he is the only big listed.

For an athletic defender developmental guy I really like Mouhamed Camara. He redshirted as a freshman last year at Louisville. He is  6'8" plus defender who played in the NBA Africa Academy before Louisville. Raw but tons of potential. Hoping Thomas Carr has a connection and can pull him to Bloomington.

For the other spot lets go with a Euro who wants to try college and develop.