Transfer Portal w/IU Interest

[Asha’man]

42 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

But the “market price” changes if Houston’s no longer pursuing him imo. I don’t have a problem giving MB $2.5-$3 million but not $4. Personally I’d be reluctant to even give Sherrell $4 million, but I suspect IU might have to if they want to beat out other schools for Sherrell.

You don’t mess around a low ball your top priority at the biggest position of need. If they have a number they are willing to go then go there. Close the deal. Don’t fall on your face at the finish line and allow someone to slide in there. Houston was rumored to offer 3.25 and he turned it down because we rumored to offer more. We don’t then rescind that offer and go lower bc the competition couldn’t match. Thats a great way to sour the relationship and burn the deal all together. 

[Demo]

7 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

You don’t mess around a low ball your top priority at the biggest position of need. If they have a number they are willing to go then go there. Close the deal. Don’t fall on your face at the finish line and allow someone to slide in there. Houston was rumored to offer 3.25 and he turned it down because we rumored to offer more. We don’t then rescind that offer and go lower bc the competition couldn’t match. Thats a great way to sour the relationship and burn the deal all together. 

100%. If this is the kid you’ve decided you want to give the ball to don’t F around. Make him happy, get him closed and move on to the next piece. 

[skhoosier2]

25 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

You don’t mess around a low ball your top priority at the biggest position of need. If they have a number they are willing to go then go there. Close the deal. Don’t fall on your face at the finish line and allow someone to slide in there. Houston was rumored to offer 3.25 and he turned it down because we rumored to offer more. We don’t then rescind that offer and go lower bc the competition couldn’t match. Thats a great way to sour the relationship and burn the deal all together. 

Wow 3+ for Burton and 4 for Sherrell?  That’s a lot invested in two players…half the budget and you have to sign several more. 

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

54 minutes ago, Magisterium said:

But the “market price” changes if Houston’s no longer pursuing him imo. I don’t have a problem giving MB $2.5-$3 million but not $4. Personally I’d be reluctant to even give Sherrell $4 million, but I suspect IU might have to if they want to beat out other schools for Sherrell.

But who cares as long as donors are paying for it? It’s not my money plus it’s competitive to get players you want so spend money to make money LOL

[TheWatShot]

Step 1: Identify the players you want

Step 2: Pay them what they want 

Step 3: Roll out the red carpet

 

Really hope we're not making it any more complicated than that. 

[BA47591]

33 minutes ago, Demo said:

Imagine he’s looking for the ridiculously inflated starting C numbers and if Sherrell really is the guy they’ve identified as priority 1 they’ll probably continue working on a combination of backup 5’s and guys they consider value plays until he says no. 

Makes sense. 

I think the play for Sherrell would be the 4 in a two big lineup.  As much as the money, I think his idea of fit will matter. 

[skhoosier2]

12 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

But who cares as long as donors are paying for it? It’s not my money plus it’s competitive to get players you want so spend money to make money LOL

If we only have 14m investing half that in two guys is risky that’s all I’m saying. It would be one thing if we only needed two guys but we basically have Trent on the bench lol and 3 freshman incoming. I hope we sign them but I hope we don’t blow the budget and we are able to get 7 guys that can compete. 

[IUHoosier5]

FWIW 2 days ago a new account, @DavidLeeb6, said Burton was waiting for Indiana to pay him $2-3M and then in the replies went to bat against a Houston fan with “sources” saying Houston would get Burton. Lee told the Houston fan “you’ll see soon” that he was duped by Burton’s own brother…

Playing out nicely so far. $2.6M would be great if he wants to be in this system 

[TheWatShot]

12 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

If we only have 14m investing half that in two guys is risky that’s all I’m saying. It would be one thing if we only needed two guys but we basically have Trent on the bench lol and 3 freshman incoming. I hope we sign them but I hope we don’t blow the budget and we are able to get 7 guys that can compete. 

If we invest heavily in game-changing players, it would be worth it. Trying to spread the wealth is how you end up with a mid-major all-star team. 

[Demo]

1 hour ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

 

Somewhere deep in the back of my mind I’m thinking this kid make have visited for a game during the Woody years. 

[Magisterium]

38 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

You don’t mess around a low ball your top priority at the biggest position of need. If they have a number they are willing to go then go there. Close the deal. Don’t fall on your face at the finish line and allow someone to slide in there. Houston was rumored to offer 3.25 and he turned it down because we rumored to offer more. We don’t then rescind that offer and go lower bc the competition couldn’t match. Thats a great way to sour the relationship and burn the deal all together. 

No one said anything about rescinding an offer. The scenario that was described is one where a “new” school (or multiple schools) start to pursue Burton since Houston backed off.

If so, what if they offer more than IU does to Burton while IU is also pursuing Sherrell? I’d be surprised if IU offered $4 million apiece to BOTH Burton and Sherrell (unless they have more NIL money than generally assumed).

[Demo]

Darren Harris is on campus now, per Lasley.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

39 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

Wow 3+ for Burton and 4 for Sherrell?  That’s a lot invested in two players…half the budget and you have to sign several more. 

While I’ll agree on the surface. It’s staggering. But it’s become the cost of doing business and when you look at the top teams/programs and look at what they are spending, it means we need to up our contributions to keep stride. Maybe we wanted 12.  Maybe we find we need to do 16-18. Idk. Other programs seem to find ways.  Hoping we can keep up with the Jones until some more realistic cap is figured out. A lot of these Nil payments get funneled through Not for profits and therefore can become tax loopholes for the extreme wealthy to make charitable donations.  I don’t like it one bit but I strongly believe this is what is happening at many institutions. (Stuhoo or someone can correct me if I’m way off base here)

[skhoosier2]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

While I’ll agree on the surface. It’s staggering. But it’s become the cost of doing business and when you look at the top teams/programs and look at what they are spending, it means we need to up our contributions to keep stride. Maybe we wanted 12.  Maybe we find we need to do 16-18. Idk. Other programs seem to find ways.  Hoping we can keep up with the Jones until some more realistic cap is figured out. A lot of these Nil payments get funneled through Not for profits and therefore can become tax loopholes for the extreme wealthy to make charitable donations.  I don’t like it one bit but I strongly believe this is what is happening at many institutions. (Stuhoo or someone can correct me if I’m way off base here)

Yea the numbers are staggering this year. Really do think there needs to be some sort of cap. Hopefully Dolson is working the phones to help find some more money. Just doesn’t feel sustainable for any team at this point. 

[rayl456]

37 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

If we only have 14m investing half that in two guys is risky that’s all I’m saying. It would be one thing if we only needed two guys but we basically have Trent on the bench lol and 3 freshman incoming. I hope we sign them but I hope we don’t blow the budget and we are able to get 7 guys that can compete. 

How does anyone know what amount of money is available?  Has IU come out and openly stated the figure?  I’m just asking out of plain old senile ignorance.  LOL

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

30 minutes ago, Demo said:

Somewhere deep in the back of my mind I’m thinking this kid make have visited for a game during the Woody years. 

Don't find his name in my records but that doesn't mean he didn't visit.  My recollection is that PUke was on him hard and thought they had him and then he changed his mind.  But hey, I'm old and I can't remember much of anything.

[Henryville Hoosier]

 

[Demo]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Don't find his name in my records but that doesn't mean he didn't visit.  My recollection is that PUke was on him hard and thought they had him and then he changed his mind.  But hey, I'm old and I can't remember much of anything.

That might be where that name stuck from. Thx

[skhoosier2]

20 minutes ago, rayl456 said:

How does anyone know what amount of money is available?  Has IU come out and openly stated the figure?  I’m just asking out of plain old senile ignorance.  LOL

Just rumored. Nobody knows for sure. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

21 minutes ago, rayl456 said:

How does anyone know what amount of money is available?  Has IU come out and openly stated the figure?  I’m just asking out of plain old senile ignorance.  LOL

To answer that question, it seems like they source Rabjohns for most. It’s not a final answer though, but I think the circulating number stems from Rabjohns. 12 was a stated number, but he admitted it could flex. He didn’t know as much in the late Woodson days but he seems to be back to knowing quite a bit. 
 

I’ll be curious if those that decide such things have already decided rhat number isn’t going to give us want we want/need this year and what level of flexibility we have. 
 

Edited Saturday at 09:49 PM by WayneFleekHoosier