Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[RaceToTheTop]

12 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Take my opinion with a grain (or three) of salt because I didn't watch Haralson at ND. He does have talent and untapped potential. ND was obviously a place where that wasn't going to be unlocked. Shoot, many will say that about IU. But we've seen what a change of scenery will do for an underachieving, talented kid. I agree, the price can't be too high and hopefully he's not thinking he's a 3+ mil guy. 

An aside, how do we think Purdoo plays in here? 

Although Purdue offered and recruited him last go around, they weren't ever close to getting him.  I think there are going to be quite a few schools in the running this time and they aren't going to want to spend that kind of money on one player.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Hmm. Things are getting spicier, that’s for sure.  I’ll go on record I love Haralson and his potential.  His positional size, athetlcitism, toolkit, and versatility and not to mention his capability to be a ++ defender goes a long way for me.  Shooting concerns me a bit, but we need/want 3 shooters on the floor.  2 is ok if elite, 3 preferred. 
 

Thats where roster makeup and team building comes in.  

[HinnyHoosier]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Although Purdue offered and recruited him last go around, they weren't ever close to getting him.  I think there are going to be quite a few schools in the running this time and they aren't going to want to spend that kind of money on one player.

Ok. I couldn't remember how close they got with him when all was said and done. They'll likely he busy hunting their next installment of Pale Sasquatch anyway. 

[Brill]

35 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

He was not a very good shooter in HS. I don't remember him being so bad that 20% would be expected but probably high 20s, low 30s.

Let's be fair, last yr he shot an average of  <1 long ball a game. I don't believe it can be determined he can be a good or bad 3pt shooter with that little data. Jmo

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I also hope our Euro scout is MUCH improved. I’d like to spend money there.  I think the value can be huge for shooting/size/experience.  I’d love to throw some real money at a projectable NBA talent from Europe.  Like Hannes Steinbach from Washington. Find a clone of that guy and PAY him.   

[BA47591]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Hmm. Things are getting spicier, that’s for sure.  I’ll go on record I love Haralson and his potential.  His positional size, athetlcitism, toolkit, and versatility and not to mention his capability to be a ++ defender goes a long way for me.  Shooting concerns me a bit, but we need/want 3 shooters on the floor.  2 is ok if elite, 3 preferred. 
 

Thats where roster makeup and team building comes in.  

From seeing him through high-school I thought then and now, he can facilitate. 

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, tyappleg said:

What I gather from this thread, is that it doesnt matter who transfers in; a lot of people will be unhappy. 

It’s going to be that way because success depends on getting the maximum talent for the dollars spent times how well it all fits together. Plenty of disagreement to be had.   
 

The only key to success will be excellent roster building—getting the most talent per dollar—on top of good coaching. It’s starting to be an efficient market out there where every team gets to start over every year. You don’t need 3 years to build a team. Gotta be a shark to survive and lots of people will disagree with you along the way unless you’ve proven yourself a la Cig. 

[Stuhoo]

47 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Take my opinion with a grain (or three) of salt because I didn't watch Haralson at ND. He does have talent and untapped potential. ND was obviously a place where that wasn't going to be unlocked. Shoot, many will say that about IU. But we've seen what a change of scenery will do for an underachieving, talented kid. I agree, the price can't be too high and hopefully he's not thinking he's a 3+ mil guy. 

An aside, how do we think Purdoo plays in here? 

The size, talent, and lack of distance shooting kinda reads like a Romeo Langford comparison?

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The size, talent, and lack of distance shooting kinda reads like a Romeo Langford comparison?

I think Romeo was twice the athlete and player but over time simply viewed basketball as a chore. Never seemed to enjoy the game even at the high school level. 

[Kentuckysucks]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think Romeo was twice the athlete and player but over time simply viewed basketball as a chore. Never seemed to enjoy the game even at the high school level. 

So an Andrew Luck basically.

[fwgreenway]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The size, talent, and lack of distance shooting kinda reads like a Romeo Langford comparison?

Yeah, but maybe in Romeo's defense (distance shooting) he had an injured wrist/hand a good chunk of the season?

[AH1971]

5 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

So an Andrew Luck basically.

No. I think Andrew Luck genuinely loves football. He was smart enough to call it quits. Not many people can do that.

[Henryville Hoosier]

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Background on Haralson

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-transfer-portal-names-to-know-notre-dame-guard-jalen-haralson/

[JF87]

3 hours ago, Aaron said:

To me Harralson is the type of guy you pay 4-5 mil for both from an optics standpoint and his talent.

As we learned last year, much better to have two guys at high level than a bunch of 1-2 million guys. For people saying its to expensive, unless you want a bunch of mid-prospects again and another yr of missing tourney, i’d highly recommend overpaying for a couple difference makers over less expensive OK guys.

The best players are worth what market says they are worth. If thats 4-5 mil so be it. Can’t get into ‘this guy is too expensive’ again or you won’t build a competitive roster.

Once you like someone and feel they are a must have (regardless if its Harralson or someone else), you pay whatever it takes to get them to IU.

My sister fell in love with a house recently she couldn’t live without and had to pay well over asking price to get it. If Hoosiers find that similar must have player you don’t put a value on that. 

If we're going to overpay, pay for proven production and not optics and perceived talent. 

[Brass Cannon]

12 minutes ago, JF87 said:

If we're going to overpay, pay for proven production and not optics and perceived talent. 

Coach Cig?  Dis you?

[Aaron]

17 minutes ago, JF87 said:

If we're going to overpay, pay for proven production and not optics and perceived talent. 

Thats the question. Though is will you get a proven talent for 4 mil or will that cost 6 mil.

You pay whatever market value is relative to talent.

[Chris007]

19 minutes ago, JF87 said:

If we're going to overpay, pay for proven production and not optics and perceived talent. 

First I don’t think the asking price is nearly that high but 16 points a game in the ACC as a freshman isn’t proven production. He’s only going to get better as a sophomore. Yeah he didn’t shoot the 3 well but neither did Enright, Conerway, and even Dorn for long stretches. He’s a take for me with what I have seen in the portal.

[JF87]

I have faith in Carr, DeVries, and staff to bring in the necessary talent.  However, to paraphrase Oscar Schmidt, I hope they bring in some players that can play the piano and also some players that can move the piano.  Last year, I thought we had too many piano players and not enough movers. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

40 minutes ago, JF87 said:

I have faith in Carr, DeVries, and staff to bring in the necessary talent.  However, to paraphrase Oscar Schmidt, I hope they bring in some players that can play the piano and also some players that can move the piano.  Last year, I thought we had too many piano players and not enough movers. 

Tucker DeVries was the piano