Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[AH1971]

Johnell Davis denied admission into Michigan. Sounds like he didn’t graduate after 4 years at FAU.

https://x.com/zyavierr/status/1781840927549473189?s=46

[Muskie for three]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Johnell Davis denied admission into Michigan. Sounds like he didn’t graduate after 4 years at FAU.

https://x.com/zyavierr/status/1781840927549473189?s=46

Tough break for dusty 

[moyemayhem]

Carlyle is a great get with plenty of upside. Hopefully his shooting improves, but I’m excited to see what he can do for us.

Can someone explain why Carlyle is ranked above Rice by On3 (#10 vs #22) and 24/7 (#10 vs #18)?  By every measure (stats, awards, team performance) Rice had a better year.  I just don’t understand that ranking at all.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/industry/basketball/2024/

https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketball/transferportaltop/

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Johnell Davis denied admission into Michigan. Sounds like he didn’t graduate after 4 years at FAU.

https://x.com/zyavierr/status/1781840927549473189?s=46

"Staff currently try to look for ways around it".  I assume that means staff trying to look for ways to get him admitted since it's pretty damn hard for a player to play for a school that can't get admitted to, LOL.

Anyway, Travis Branham had reported Wednesday the 'initial expectation was to see him follow May to Michigan but that is no longer the case'.  The Mgoblog message board seems to indicate that admissions was a problem but that they also felt that Johnell signing with Roc Nation -- Jay Z's agency -- and while not precluding him from coming back to college, might indicate he is leaning at going into the draft or at the minimum looking for the best NIL he could get which likely isn't Michigan.  Sounds like if they do not get Davis they are likely to get Roddy Gayle.

[HoosierFan1994]

48 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

I'm pretty confident you can Sharpie in a starting lineup of:

Rice, Carlyle, Mbagko, Reneau, and Ballo.

With Galloway/Tucker/Portal Big as our top 8 guys.

9-12 will be Cupps, Leal, Newton, and one portal addition (in no particular order)

An 11ppg scorer as a freshman (with his talent) isn't transferring here to come off the bench.  Gallo thrives in a 6th man role and it's where he should be with the roster currently as constructed.  

He also is a top ten portal prospect. 100% is not coming off the bench. This is the perfect role for Galloway which I'm sure he is fine with. At the end of the day, both are going to see plenty of playing time. 

[HoosierFan1994]

What a wild year it has been for roster construction. Last summer, I thought IU would go young with Boogie, Liam, and Queen. Instead they got Rice, Carlyle, and Ballo. Credit to the staff for pulling this off. Last season I begged for another high impact player (mainly a shooting guard). While I understand the concerns about shooting (they are still there) this roster is in much better shape for a few reasons

1) You have a point guard that led his team to the NCAA tournament as a freshman. As highly touted as X was, he wasn't the point guard Rice currently is. Rice I think will only get better. I see him as a very good point guard for at least the next two years. 

2) The bench is going to be so much better. Galloway can play the 1-3 spots, Tucker the 2-3. Cupps and Walker on paper were the top two options off the bench last year. Major upgrade. 

3) Legit, athletic guards. I really hope Newton can come on too. Imagine Rice, Carlyle and him on the court at once. 

I'd like to see the staff add a shooter and a center. Problem is only 10-15 minutes a game are probably left.  That might be hard to address right now. Guys like Hickman, Essegian, and Malone probably want a chance to start somewhere. 

Assembly Call talked about this on Thursday night. Expectations will be high. It's going to be best to wait until the season is over to talk about it, but the spotlight is on Woodson right now. Probably the most talented IU team since 2012-2013. I think this team HAS to contend for a Big Ten Title next year (not talking about 2022-2023 where they finished 3 games behind Purdue) and make the second weekend. This program just got a MASSIVE momentum boost. Let's not blow it. 

[AH1971]

1 hour ago, moyemayhem said:

Carlyle is a great get with plenty of upside. Hopefully his shooting improves, but I’m excited to see what he can do for us.

Can someone explain why Carlyle is ranked above Rice by On3 (#10 vs #22) and 24/7 (#10 vs #18)?  By every measure (stats, awards, team performance) Rice had a better year.  I just don’t understand that ranking at all.

https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/industry/basketball/2024/

https://247sports.com/season/2024-basketball/transferportaltop/

Objectively, I think Carlyle has a much higher overall ceiling than Rice. 

[hoosiersoxfan]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Johnell Davis denied admission into Michigan. Sounds like he didn’t graduate after 4 years at FAU.

https://x.com/zyavierr/status/1781840927549473189?s=46

Isn’t this what happened with Caleb Love last offseason before Love wound up at Arizona?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I believe Wayne wasn't say that the 13th to the backup 4/5.  He was saying that scholly 11 or 12 needs to be a backup 4/5 and 13 needs to be the emergency 4/5.  Right now Ballo and Reneau are only bigs except if MM is in there as occasional 4.  Really need two backup 4/5s in case Ballo, Reneau, or the yet to be signed 4/5 get hurt.

That’s exactly right. I’d like to get TJ Power badly. I don’t see that happening. Imo, the biggest key is don’t leave #13 open and get size there just in case something unforeseen happens to Ballo we must have options.

Going to be tricky to finish things off.

TJ Power
Payne/Malone
Foreign player with size.

Something like this. I think we are set on guards despite still not having a knock down guy. Gallo, Rice, Carlyle gonna play a bunch. Probably Cupps too, to an extent.


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[AH1971]

22 minutes ago, hoosiersoxfan said:

Isn’t this what happened with Caleb Love last offseason before Love wound up at Arizona?

Yes and Terrance Shannon Jr the year before.

[HoosierHoopster]

2 hours ago, tyappleg said:

I'm pretty confident you can Sharpie in a starting lineup of:

Rice, Carlyle, Mbagko, Reneau, and Ballo.

With Galloway/Tucker/Portal Big as our top 8 guys.

9-12 will be Cupps, Leal, Newton, and one portal addition (in no particular order)

An 11ppg scorer as a freshman (with his talent) isn't transferring here to come off the bench.  Gallo thrives in a 6th man role and it's where he should be with the roster currently as constructed.  

You know, I’d love Gallo off the bench, think he’d thrive, could destroy other teams’ second units, but — I’ll be surprised if Woodson takes a key vet like Gallo off the bench. Hope you’re right

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Objectively, I think Carlyle has a much higher overall ceiling than Rice. 

Rice is also a couple of years older than Carlyle because of the two years he had to take off.

[OKHOOSIER]

5 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

You know, I’d love Gallo off the bench, think he’d thrive, could destroy other teams’ second units, but — I’ll be surprised if Woodson takes a key vet like Gallo off the bench. Hope you’re right

Our ceiling with Gallo off the bench is much, much higher IMO. Gallo has been paid, and he has been here for a while, I would suspect he is more interested in a B1G title and deep March run versus who starts. He is going to get a boatload of minutes regardless. Our bench was the biggest issue last year even beyond the system. The drop off with even two bench pieces in was stark (AC talked about this via the numbers not too long ago), and what I envision here is much more 3 guard lineups. Whether Gallo or Tucker at the 3. Ballo probably doesnt project as a Ware level guy from a minutes perspective which leads me to think we will see way more small ball with MM at the 4 and either Ballo/MR at 5. Even without adding a couple more complimentary pieces, the current roster has so much more versatility on paper than last season. 

[Golfman25]

7 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

You know, I’d love Gallo off the bench, think he’d thrive, could destroy other teams’ second units, but — I’ll be surprised if Woodson takes a key vet like Gallo off the bench. Hope you’re right

Yep.  It would require Woodson to change.  Woodson likes senior vets.  He’s said it too many times to count.  I doubt Gallo comes off the bench.  

[RaceToTheTop]

25 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Yep.  It would require Woodson to change.  Woodson likes senior vets.  He’s said it too many times to count.  I doubt Gallo comes off the bench.  

Change….like bringing in guards through the portal?  He did that.

[CSP]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Change….like bringing in guards through the portal?  He did that.

Yeah I'm confused by the point trying to be made. 

The starting lineup has never been an issue. I'd be pretty surpised if Carlyle doesn't start, but either way, we'll start our best 5. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

10 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Johnell Davis denied admission into Michigan. Sounds like he didn’t graduate after 4 years at FAU.

https://x.com/zyavierr/status/1781840927549473189?s=46

And that's why Dusty should have taken the Louisville job.

[Feathery]

2 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Yep.  It would require Woodson to change.  Woodson likes senior vets.  He’s said it too many times to count.  I doubt Gallo comes off the bench.  

I agree, while in principle I think Woody likes vets over younger players. But he also seems to like NBA talent over college vets. Carlyle is an NBA talent and Galloway is not. It’s why I think Galloway comes off the bench and it’s a role he is better suited for.  

[Juwan Moye]

36 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Yeah I'm confused by the point trying to be made. 

The starting lineup has never been an issue. I'd be pretty surpised if Carlyle doesn't start, but either way, we'll start our best 5. 

I’d change that to “we’ll start our most talented 5” as I think our “best 5” wouldn’t include Malik playing next to Ballo.

Id expect our “best 5” to be Rice, Carlyle, Galloway, Mgbako, Ballo. That’s at least the most balanced lineup this amateurs eyes can see. Could change if Malik becomes a better shooter/perimeter defender or if Tucker comes on strong.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]