Shooter Posted April 9 Posted April 9 10 hours ago, J34 said: I think we're selling Sisley short starting at the 4. He showed signs of being able to do multiple things with above average athleticism. Improved shooting and a full year under his belt, he might be a really nice piece. Great culture guy! Pay big on a PG, Wing, and BIG I agree, but I'd like another competent option at that spot as well. Like a Sam Alexis level player (but a PF version). Would feel better about relying on Sisley for 20-25 mpg, than 30-35 until he proves it. J34 1 Quote
Popular Post Home Jersey Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 Let's just start Andrej, Trent and the 3 freshmen next year so we can get the #1 overall pick in next year's recruiting class. That's how this works, right? AZ Hoosier, fwgreenway, Stuhoo and 15 others 2 16 Quote
Shooter Posted April 9 Posted April 9 5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: They best be in good position to announce some commitments semi imminently if they're asking a guy like Dorn to take a pay cut. Not just "feel good about" prospects. IMO Wonder if it's truly a pay cut, or they weren't willing to meet a request for increased pay. Either way, staff probably thinks they can get better value for the money. I am bummed to lose Dorn just because he was a known quantity and a decent player. But the role of "good shooter who does nothing else" probably won't be that hard to fill. ronzo4IU, Home Jersey, skhoosier2 and 1 other 4 Quote
Home Jersey Posted April 9 Posted April 9 A small thing to look for next year that will give us a little more insight on DDV and staff is whether the Woodson trend continues of transfers out going elsewhere and performing significantly better. BannerVille, skhoosier2 and Pagoda 3 Quote
IUCrazy2 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Replacing 8 or 9 guys with $10-$14 million is going to be a tall hill to climb again this year. We are going to be in a spot where landing 1 or 2 highly thought of guys severely hampers your ability to pick up much of anything else. WayneFleekHoosier, skhoosier2, Home Jersey and 2 others 5 Quote
Popular Post Demo Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 10 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said: Great news. I’d bet he’d be staying if the staff said he had a good shot at starting and kept his NIL competitive. Hopefully he heard the opposite 100% agree. 1 tool players who can’t always produce that tool are too hard to win with. I didn’t even want him for rotation purposes. Would much rather give those rotation minutes to Karvala because eventually he’ll be able to give you more. Jeff Flabjohns, Pagoda, J34 and 7 others 10 Quote
Home Jersey Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Shooter said: Wonder if it's truly a pay cut, or they weren't willing to meet a request for increased pay. Either way, staff probably thinks they can get better value for the money. I am bummed to lose Dorn just because he was a known quantity and a decent player. But the role of "good shooter who does nothing else" probably won't be that hard to fill. Yeah I agree. It's just concerning to me that we are now filling 8 spots... the money only goes so far when it's spread thin. Overall it could be a good outcome for next year's roster. A lot of ambiguity to navigate. Ryan Carr will have his finger prints on this team. Hopefully we see a noticeable difference. skhoosier2 and Shooter 2 Quote
Home Jersey Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Replacing 8 or 9 guys with $10-$14 million is going to be a tall hill to climb again this year. We are going to be in a spot where landing 1 or 2 highly thought of guys severely hampers your ability to pick up much of anything else. I didn't know Dorn was leaving yesterday, but that's why I've been thinking we're going for 2 of the spendy guys max this cycle. Ryan Carr is going to need to earn the love he has been getting. Eager to see what he comes up with. AZ Hoosier, ronzo4IU, Pagoda and 4 others 7 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 On 4/4/2026 at 9:24 PM, Hovadipo said: It’s called an emotional hedge. 8 hours ago, Stuhoo said: Very likely that Dorn stays; if Dorn was gone we’d know by now. For me, the intriguing thing about Dorn is that he had the foot fracture and couldn’t train going into last season. Hoping that a full offseason allows him to improve his athleticism. 34 minutes ago, EasyEJay said: Dorn in the portal reported by ON3 Nailed it! Lol kottke, WayneFleekHoosier, Hovadipo and 7 others 2 8 Quote
Popular Post Demo Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Home Jersey said: I didn't know Dorn was leaving yesterday, but that's why I've been thinking we're going for 2 of the spendy guys max this cycle. Ryan Carr is going to need to earn the love he has been getting. Eager to see what he comes up with. This right here. Any moron can look at a Bidunga or Wright and say they can play. My daughter who couldn’t tell you which ball a basketball is can do that. Carr’s job is to find undervalued assets and I’m 100% confident he can. Dude drafted Taelon freakin’ Peter last year who didn’t even start at Liberty and that guy’s gonna hang around in the League for a long time. So I’m gonna give them the presumption of correctness on every kid they bring in, no exceptions. Adam Olsen, no problem, welcome to the family. Now if they go out and go 10-25 we’ll need to revisit it. Juwan Moye, Pagoda, J34 and 6 others 9 Quote
Popular Post Chris007 Posted April 9 Popular Post Posted April 9 15 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: I didn't know Dorn was leaving yesterday, but that's why I've been thinking we're going for 2 of the spendy guys max this cycle. Ryan Carr is going to need to earn the love he has been getting. Eager to see what he comes up with. From what I understand, Ryan Carr is doing most of the evaluations but not the negotiating. moyemayhem, cybergates, Hollywood Mike Miranda and 14 others 14 3 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 From the time I learned how to read baseball box scores I was a Dodger fan. Free agency hit and my interest in the Dodgers and baseball in general slowly started to fade away. Really like a player and poof he was gone. College basketball has become the same way. Simply can't let yourself become emotionally tied to any one player let alone an entire roster. A player decides to leave, so be it. Home Jersey, ronzo4IU, GloryDays and 2 others 5 Quote
Hoosier987 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 5 hours ago, Chris007 said: From what I understand, Ryan Carr is doing most of the evaluations but not the negotiating. Carr is good. Lets continue to have him do the evaluations skhoosier2, NVFalcons1990 and kottke 3 Quote
Home Jersey Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 minute ago, Chris007 said: From what I understand, Ryan Carr is doing most of the evaluations but not the negotiating. Good to see you posting more again. Interesting. I wonder if part of the evaluation includes putting an acceptable range of spend for each target. In a market moving like this, not only do we need to get the scouting evaluation right... we need to be sharp about prioritization too. Timing is everything. Hopefully some good news soon. skhoosier2, kottke, 8bucks and 1 other 4 Quote
str8baller Posted April 9 Posted April 9 16 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: I didn't know Dorn was leaving yesterday, but that's why I've been thinking we're going for 2 of the spendy guys max this cycle. Ryan Carr is going to need to earn the love he has been getting. Eager to see what he comes up with. Get the right two and the rest of the scout becomes a wee bit easier. Seeing Shelstad and Bidunga visiting together made me think that the school that (if?) lands those two and 3 spot up shooters who were at least willing defenders you’d probably make the tourney easy with a chance to make the 2nd weekend. Home Jersey and NVFalcons1990 2 Quote
EasyEJay Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Can already hear "Dorn leaving caught the staff off guard" / " Staff didn't anticipate having 8-9 roster sports to fill" / "Ryan Carr didn't have a full season to get going." as next March's version of "Staff wasn't in place in time" as an excuse for another underachieving year. I know there is still a lot to play out but I'd be lying if I didn't say a month ago I'd thought I'd feel a lot more optimistic today. We shall see if that changes in the next 10 days or so. Golfman25 1 Quote
Hoosier987 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Just now, Class of '66 Old Fart said: From the time I learned how to read baseball box scores I was a Dodger fan. Free agency hit and my interest in the Dodgers and baseball in general slowly started to fade away. Really like a player and poof he was gone. College basketball has become the same way. Simply can't let yourself become emotionally tied to any one player let alone an entire roster. A player decides to leave, so be it. I understand. I’ve always appreciated multi-year players. But last year, was there anyone truly worth investing in long-term? We needed a reset. Wilkerson stands out, but he was out of eligibility. Quote
Pagoda Posted April 9 Posted April 9 7 minutes ago, Chris007 said: From what I understand, Ryan Carr is doing most of the evaluations but not the negotiating. Thanks. Just guessing, but I tend to think Ryan's evals would have to include a valuation of the player? Otherwise the eval would be not so helpful. And of course CDD and assistants still have some involvement on evals. Then CDD and assistants have to sell the player on IU and get them for something close to the valuation. I kinda worry about how good of a salesman CDD is (I'm not sold! -- haha j/k... kinda), but we'll see. skhoosier2, Chris007, moyemayhem and 1 other 4 Quote
Juwan Moye Posted April 9 Posted April 9 45 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: Maybe that means we've got his roster spot signed, sealed and nearly delivered. Considering the 6’8” kid coming in who can only shoot and seemingly do little else I think this is a “yes”. WayneFleekHoosier, go iu bb, Asha’man and 1 other 4 Quote
Home Jersey Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Just now, str8baller said: Get the right two and the rest of the scout becomes a wee bit easier. Seeing Shelstad and Bidunga visiting together made me think that the school that (if?) lands those two and 3 spot up shooters who were at least willing defenders you’d probably make the tourney easy with a chance to make the 2nd weekend. I would be happy enough at this rate if we sign Burton at PG and Estrella at C. If the two of them cost $6-7M and the freshmen + Trent cost ~$2M... will really need to nail the scout on our other players. And have to strike at the right time. Gonna be interesting to see where we land. skhoosier2, Jeff Flabjohns, kottke and 1 other 4 Quote
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