They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[AH1971]

39 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

This is how it works at (almost) all universities that aren't named "Indiana"... and Berghoff is correct that Indiana's leadership is completely built on a house of cards... and when it crashed to the ground, they just stack the cards back up and do it again. Remember the definition of insanity? It's doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results.

Figured this was common practice at most universities, at least at the ones who care anyway, still shocking to hear once you realize it's amateur hour at the university we all love and support. 

[Redcamaro]

16 minutes ago, Hoosier2014 said:

Regardless, I think we achieved something here. We didn't get what we wanted but you have to admit the fan pressure has rejuvenated Woodson and the team a bit. He is showing more emotion on the sideline and the players seem to be playing harder. If it truly led to the ultra rich boosters pledging more money to the NIL? That's a win. Maybe Scott's player only meeting was to make them aware of that, hence Chris' comments about the discussion involved other schools reaching out to them. If he can retain the "good" nucleus of this team and actually go get some high level guards, I think most would have a hard time saying they are not excited next year. 

 

Good news? This theory will get put to test very soon. 

Man, I can't see how we don't land a couple of stud guards from the portal after the season. Perception everywhere is that our weakness is guard play. People see how well we play the inside game. Keep the core together and with our NIL package we should be able to draw some interest.

[darB s'tI]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He can't live without one

Inside out basketball baby! It's where college basketball is going.

[Hornsby]

https://gbmwolverine.com/posts/juwan-howard-likely-to-return-as-michigan-basketball-head-coach-01hrcwg0x51j

More poof hiring former players is an awful idea. Though they did get an elite 8 and sweet sixeteen out of him. Far better than what we have gotten.

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[Hornsby]

Man, I can't see how we don't land a couple of stud guards from the portal after the season. Perception everywhere is that our weakness is guard play. People see how well we play the inside game. Keep the core together and with our NIL package we should be able to draw some interest.

He couldnt get guards last spring what makes you think he can now? His style is the exact same

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[Trish]

I’m still upset after yesterday. The smoke could be seen from Brown County. Dolson must’ve gotten pressured to leak that to Zach yesterday. 
 

Nonetheless, I still think we’ll see some kids leave. Ware to the NBA. Mack will get paid elsewhere at a better program. 

[ziggyiu]

2 minutes ago, Redcamaro said:

Man, I can't see how we don't land a couple of stud guards from the portal after the season. Perception everywhere is that our weakness is guard play. People see how well we play the inside game. Keep the core together and with our NIL package we should be able to draw some interest.

Don't know if we will or won't land great guards, but college basketball media was slamming CMW comment about college being played inside-out. Also, he doesn't appear to run a guard-friendly offense. There's little movement, CMW has been said to not like his team shooting many threes, because he plays with two bags that clogs the lane for guards. 

In some ways I can't see how CMW can land amazing guards unless it's through overwhelming NIL deals. 

[AZ Hoosier]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

He couldnt get guards last spring what makes you think he can now? His style is the exact same

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That stud-muffin XJ is gone... there will be playing time... unless Cupps comes back and they're all afraid of him... :D :D 

[SamIam]

So unless Dusty can go to a P5 and turn it around in 1 year he still won't be considered "good enough" for IU....?

[AnotherSznOnTheBrink]

This admin could save themselves a lot of trouble if they would just finally admit winning isn’t a priority for them. It’s clear, but they like to pretend they care about championships. 

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, AnotherSznOnTheBrink said:

This admin could save themselves a lot of trouble if they would just finally admit winning isn’t a priority for them. It’s clear, but they like to pretend they care about championships. 

They 1)hired Mike Woodson and 2)refused to fire him when they should have. They haven't admitted that winning isn't a priority? Protecting their friend's feelings is more important to them.

[Hornsby]

I believe this is referred to putting lipstick on a pig.  Beating three bad teams does not cover up the flaws in the program and coaching.  Please take your triple rainbows to another thread. 

Twitter is where he should go they are ready to give Woodson an extension for beating minnesota and Marland.

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[rcbowla]

But it's fun to smoke cigars with him after games and share stories

So save $ and fly him in from wherever after every game and do that. The short-sighted approach this administration is taking makes me sad. IU has fallen so far in the CBB hierarchy and is committed to continuing the downward trajectory. I will spend nothing on merch, tix or anything else that can help them suffocate the program I've loved. As for watching....if I have nothing better to do I may watch a game. I mean doing dishes, cleaning gutters and punching myself in the throat will all qualify as something better to do.

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[Hornsby]

That stud-muffin XJ is gone... there will be playing time... unless Cupps comes back and they're all afraid of him... :D :D 

Lol yep that's right or they might be afraid of Newton who hasn't played in two years.

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[ap2345]

11 minutes ago, Trish said:

I’m still upset after yesterday. The smoke could be seen from Brown County. Dolson must’ve gotten pressured to leak that to Zach yesterday. 
 

Nonetheless, I still think we’ll see some kids leave. Ware to the NBA. Mack will get paid elsewhere at a better program. 

If the Simons did pay up Mack may get more here than anywhere else 

[go iu bb]

14 minutes ago, Redcamaro said:

Man, I can't see how we don't land a couple of stud guards from the portal after the season. Perception everywhere is that our weakness is guard play. People see how well we play the inside game. Keep the core together and with our NIL package we should be able to draw some interest.

Because they don't want to just feed the post? The offense is boring by design and I don't know if many guards will want to play that style.

[Hornsby]

So save $ and fly him in from wherever after every game and do that. The short-sighted approach this administration is taking makes me sad. IU has fallen so far in the CBB hierarchy and is committed to continuing the downward trajectory. I will spend nothing on merch, tix or anything else that can help them suffocate the program I've loved. As for watching....if I have nothing better to do I may watch a game. I mean doing dishes, cleaning gutters and punching myself in the throat will all qualify as something better to do.

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Think of all the stud coaches we missed out in because our administration is incompetent.

Matta
Beilein
Steven's
Dusty May up next on the list.

You gotta be beyond incompetent to miss out of all of them.

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[Stuhoo]

30 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Just imagine if we used the full extent of Ware's skillset this year. 

That's one of the things about this year that most upsets me. He should be putting on a show in the tournament.

Oh please! Last year Oregon got nothing out of Ware save for frustration and sadness.

We have used Ware's full skillset this year, and he's gotten better and better as the year has gone on:

[mdiu28]

4 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

If the Simons did pay up Mack may get more here than anywhere else 

Money poorly spent if they did.

Maybe one more year for maybe a first round exit if that followed by an extension? So excited for next year and the future....this sucks

[Home Jersey]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Oh please! Last year Oregon got nothing out of Ware save for frustration and sadness.

We have used Ware's full skillset this year, and he's gotten better and better as the year has gone on:

Maybe I should have used another word than skillset. Maybe "utilized him in a different way" is a better way to put it. 

I don't dispute Ware has improved leaps and bounds in terms of his motor/production, etc.

What I'm getting at is we had a perfect stretch 5 man to play a 4 out, 1 in offense with.

I don't think we necessarily played to his strengths in that sense and would have liked to see more DHOs with Gallo. Just my two cents