They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[reconmkd]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

OK since @AZ Hoosier is firing me. I'm going to say this since it's been a good day so far and we have a game tonight.

From what I'm hearing I don't think QB is going to block Dolson from making a move after the season. He might not agree with it but he won't stop it from happening.

That is the good news. The bad news as of today is I would slowly start bracing ourselves that Bruce Pearl might not be the next coach. I'm not sure Dolson can get enough support for it. 

I think IU has a case of FOMO. If I were to guess today and this could change later today or this week I would say Dusty May would be the next coach. 

Bad News: If this is true and the BP rumors were true, I had really hoped that this university and alum were past this Holier than Thou BS. Too afraid to dip their toes into the grey, all because they self destructed our program in the Sampson fall out. 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Just now, reconmkd said:

Bad News: If this is true and the BP rumors were true, I had really hoped that this university and alum were past this Holier than Thou BS. Too afraid to dip their toes into the grey, all because they self destructed our program in the Sampson fall out. 

This 

[IndyHoops]

1 hour ago, Ngw7183 said:

I stopped posting as I said I would. I am not coming back to dive into all this or further debate. One post and out. Want to stay away until this is all resolved. 

I did want to chime in with some different perspectives. Maybe help some of the group think.

Who would be doing this and how would it all make sense? Eric and HH makes a ton of sense. Eric wants a change and while you might agree with that, he is using his perceived power to try and influence it. 

- Rabby decided to get in bed there. Guy has more ego than Woody times a hundred. He is close to some of the biggest oppositions to Woody like Evans (who has his own issues). Eric thinks he is untouchable for “all he does for the program” 

- The Pearl stuff all started by Trilly saying “he was talking to a media guy with lots a of connections, he said a donor stated the hot name would be Pearl, which was interesting to him and odd to him.” What better way to fire up an angry fanbase than get a name like Pearl floated? May doesnt do that for the masses. 

- Rabby has been feeding Trilly all his IU info for awhile now. Slater is still considered most likely to be Trilly or main part of that account. Slater and Rabby are close. Trilly has to rely on local connected guys. They are not all knowing. 

- Rabby has been on Trilly discord for awhile. When things are said, it always aligns with Peegs. People see this as confirmation but really is all one in the same.

- things are not going exactly how you want? Release more stuff. Attack. All the media guys know each other and all trust 2 people. Rabby and now Trilly. If both are saying it, must be true.

- Pearl has no agent. Never has. Easy to google that. This info isn’t coming from agent talk. No real “camp” - it is him. He plays his own game. 

- Pearl has a new grandchild and daughter who live in ATL. The other in Tenn. why leave the south? 

- there were media members from Louisville who made almost word for word statements about Pearl few years ago. “I have been told he is 100% interested and would take it if offered”

- Pearl negotiated his last contract raise by saying to his AD “I want to be here until I retire, my word and relationships matter, make it so I have no reason to ever want to leave. Show me you want me here the same as I want to be here” 

- There remain way too many people opposed to Pearl that matter. That even includes most of the same former players who want Woody out and the ones who don’t. 

- Dolson would be nuts, nuts to attack like this. Even if he got his way, if that came back that he did all this, which does put a very negative light on the program, it would be over for him long term.

Most likely outcome as I said before is another year, staff changes, agree on GM front etc. Could all this change if there is a mass exodus of key players, sure. However, when there is a lot of misinformation being tossed, stands to reason some of that is too. 

The one thing I will end with for those hoping it is all true. Dolson not coming out and squashing all this is odd. Maybe he tried to do that with the players meeting and told them to ignore all the stuff. Still seems odd to me why he hasn’t. So you still have hope haha

 

I think Woodson supporters are going to be shocked how bad Woodson is treated next year by the fans if he doesn’t have a VERY good year ….shocked. Anyone remember last days of Davis? I do. Hopefully Woodson and staff will be prepared.

[Banksyrules]

45 minutes ago, QuinnB(BOT)(Perfectin76) said:

Hello fellow Hoosier fans,

I think I can speak for most of us when I say Mike Woodson IS Indiana basketball the future is bright.

Am I right? 

 

 

This post alone should make you all big ten. 

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, Ngw7183 said:

I stopped posting as I said I would. I am not coming back to dive into all this or further debate. One post and out. Want to stay away until this is all resolved. 

I did want to chime in with some different perspectives. Maybe help some of the group think.

Who would be doing this and how would it all make sense? Eric and HH makes a ton of sense. Eric wants a change and while you might agree with that, he is using his perceived power to try and influence it. 

- Rabby decided to get in bed there. Guy has more ego than Woody times a hundred. He is close to some of the biggest oppositions to Woody like Evans (who has his own issues). Eric thinks he is untouchable for “all he does for the program” 

- The Pearl stuff all started by Trilly saying “he was talking to a media guy with lots a of connections, he said a donor stated the hot name would be Pearl, which was interesting to him and odd to him.” What better way to fire up an angry fanbase than get a name like Pearl floated? May doesnt do that for the masses. 

- Rabby has been feeding Trilly all his IU info for awhile now. Slater is still considered most likely to be Trilly or main part of that account. Slater and Rabby are close. Trilly has to rely on local connected guys. They are not all knowing. 

- Rabby has been on Trilly discord for awhile. When things are said, it always aligns with Peegs. People see this as confirmation but really is all one in the same.

- things are not going exactly how you want? Release more stuff. Attack. All the media guys know each other and all trust 2 people. Rabby and now Trilly. If both are saying it, must be true.

- Pearl has no agent. Never has. Easy to google that. This info isn’t coming from agent talk. No real “camp” - it is him. He plays his own game. 

- Pearl has a new grandchild and daughter who live in ATL. The other in Tenn. why leave the south? 

- there were media members from Louisville who made almost word for word statements about Pearl few years ago. “I have been told he is 100% interested and would take it if offered”

- Pearl negotiated his last contract raise by saying to his AD “I want to be here until I retire, my word and relationships matter, make it so I have no reason to ever want to leave. Show me you want me here the same as I want to be here” 

- There remain way too many people opposed to Pearl that matter. That even includes most of the same former players who want Woody out and the ones who don’t. 

- Dolson would be nuts, nuts to attack like this. Even if he got his way, if that came back that he did all this, which does put a very negative light on the program, it would be over for him long term.

Most likely outcome as I said before is another year, staff changes, agree on GM front etc. Could all this change if there is a mass exodus of key players, sure. However, when there is a lot of misinformation being tossed, stands to reason some of that is too. 

The one thing I will end with for those hoping it is all true. Dolson not coming out and squashing all this is odd. Maybe he tried to do that with the players meeting and told them to ignore all the stuff. Still seems odd to me why he hasn’t. So you still have hope haha

Okay - my take on this post:

1. You take a ton of heat on here. Per mamasa's "this is not an airport" spot-on funny aside, it is warranted at time sbecause your tone bugs some people. 
2. The post you made here is straight   Glad you chimed in!

 

[hoosierdogg]

1 hour ago, iubhounds2 said:

That's the problem, he is in his lane and not breaking the speed limit.

...with his left turn signal on!

[mamasa]

5 minutes ago, kottke said:

Ahhh Government Cheese! I remember that poster! Whatever happened to him?

Unfortunately, not sure! He was something else lol!

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Bad News: If this is true and the BP rumors were true, I had really hoped that this university and alum were past this Holier than Thou BS. Too afraid to dip their toes into the grey, all because they self destructed our program in the Sampson fall out. 

I don't disagree. And believe me I'm hoping I'm wrong. I love Dusty but think Pearl gets us back to elite quicker

[johnsoniu]

14 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

@johnsoniu Lets start taking bets on O/U on where the page count ends up by 12 AM 3/7/2024. What you think?

Well, KathywithaC has things fired up

We have a game tonight

Chris is sobering up from his wife's departure

And some will take the # I set as a personal challenge.........so,

The place is a powder keg ready to erupt. I'm going big, I think we hit 600 by tomorrow midnight.

[HoosierBoiler]

19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

OK since @AZ Hoosier is firing me. I'm going to say this since it's been a good day so far and we have a game tonight.

From what I'm hearing I don't think QB is going to block Dolson from making a move after the season. He might not agree with it but he won't stop it from happening.

That is the good news. The bad news as of today is I would slowly start bracing ourselves that Bruce Pearl might not be the next coach. I'm not sure Dolson can get enough support for it. 

I think IU has a case of FOMO. If I were to guess today and this could change later today or this week I would say Dusty May would be the next coach. 

While not the first choice for most, I would 100% be ok with it! Hopefully he could get Graves to come on board

[JF87]

2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I still cannot believe we blew up the program over Sampson who has averaged 31 wins the last three years. You never ever ever hear about kids being ineligible anymore but we fired him over text messages and kids grades. Houston is laughing at us big time.

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The problem was Sampson, not IU.  He is a tremendous coach but failed to live up to his responsibilities while at IU. Sampson made his choices while at IU and paid for them with a 5-year show cause penalty.  Hopefully, he learned his lessons and is playing by the few NCAA rules that are left.  

[theriverpilot]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Not sure if that's in jest or not.  If it isn't, IMO there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL a member of the BoT would sign up on btb let alone use a screen name so close to their real name.  Nothing personal DoctorP but that's a pretty crazy take.

Yeah, and I can't imagine the emails this poor lady might be getting right now. But for what it's worth, let's be nice to @KathywithaC and not run her off! I'm really appreciating her fresh insight to this madness

[jbeaman9]

Just now, HoosierBoiler said:

While not the first choice for most, I would 100% be ok with it! Hopefully he could get Graves to come on board

I was curious what kind of staff he could build. Who is Graves?

[Chris007]

Just now, jbeaman9 said:

I was curious what kind of staff he could build. Who is Graves?

Matt Graves assistant at ISU and former assistant at Butler and former head coach at South Alabama. WRV great

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, jbeaman9 said:

I was curious what kind of staff he could build. Who is Graves?

Pretty sure Trilly has said he's a leading candidate for the IUPUI job

[Demo]

1 minute ago, jbeaman9 said:

I was curious what kind of staff he could build. Who is Graves?

AHC at Indiana St. Coached at Butler and Xavier. Heavily connected in-state recruiter. 

[CrossboneIU22]

1 hour ago, QuinnB(BOT)(Perfectin76) said:

Hello fellow Hoosier fans,

I think I can speak for most of us when I say Mike Woodson IS Indiana basketball the future is bright.

Am I right? 

 

 

You forgot to a couple of "Partner" 's in there!

[Hoosierfan1901]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I don't disagree. And believe me I'm hoping I'm wrong. I love Dusty but think Pearl gets us back to elite quicker

It’s the BOT playing it safe (for now). I’m no insider, but Dolson is probably trying to flip a few more trustees to Pearl right now and likely playing the patience game. Especially if QB is beginning to double down.

[IUrocker]

21 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

OK since @AZ Hoosier is firing me. I'm going to say this since it's been a good day so far and we have a game tonight.

From what I'm hearing I don't think QB is going to block Dolson from making a move after the season. He might not agree with it but he won't stop it from happening.

That is the good news. The bad news as of today is I would slowly start bracing ourselves that Bruce Pearl might not be the next coach. I'm not sure Dolson can get enough support for it. 

I think IU has a case of FOMO. If I were to guess today and this could change later today or this week I would say Dusty May would be the next coach. 

I actually started to wonder if this could be the case. Pearl could be a big smoke screen and using the “dream job” thing helps the screen become more believable to people while they work behind the scenes with someone else. Could have even been IU people trying to leak word about the Dusty May to Ohio State possibility, which would work hand in hand with the Bruce stuff coming to IU as his dream job. Kinda like a “well looks like word is May is going to Ohio State and Bruce said IU would be his dream job so I bet we’re getting Bruce!”. 

[Stuhoo]

A lot of the "best" choice is about fit, potential, energy, fit, sustained success at a P5 program, longevity, and fit.

Did I say "fit" three times? That's because it is the far and away most important factor.

Therefore, the best choice (with an understanding that no one is a perfect choice) is; 

1) Dusty May

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2) Bruce Pearl