They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Ryno6284]

38 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

Just haven't changed from who I thought we'd go get the LAST time! Haha! 

Wasn't it Bobby Rahal before that?

[IUHAHN81]

Just now, Ryno6284 said:

Wasn't it Bobby Rahal before that?

Yes!!!!!! :)

[RaceToTheTop]

59 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

IU in my opinion is still a top 10 job in the business despite the struggles for however long they have had them.   Doesn’t matter who they hire this cycle.  White Whale, Mid major coach, high level coach doesn’t matter IU will still be considered a top 10 job. 

And it’s a top ten job despite lack of recent success.

[Dave from Dayton]

Yeah.  It's a top 10 coaching job.

RMK...under the bus.

Sampson...under the bus.

That is why we got Tom Crean...bus.

That is why we got Archie Miller...bust.

That is why we got Mike Woodsen...still driving the bus over the cliff.

Come to Indiana where you can end your career in 4 years.  

 

 

[wirenuts]

2 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Yeah.  It's a top 10 coaching job.

That is why we got Tom Crean.  

That is why we got Archie Miller.

That is why we got Mike Woodsen.

Come to Indiana where you can end your career in 4 years.  

 

 

The only thing not top ten about the indiana job is the results. 

Other programs fire their coaches before the 4 years is up

[Dave from Dayton]

3 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

The only thing not top ten about the indiana job is the results. 

Other programs fire their coaches before the 4 years is up

I respectfully point out that the coaching hires and the administration's decisions are not quite top 10 in my humble opinion.

[JSHoosier]

29 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

That $1M raise he got in August 2023 drives me crazy.  He had not outperformed in any way that deserved a raise, and after getting the raise he completely fell apart.

It was completely undeserved, and all he did was meet what expectations should be. Even without that raise he'd be overpaid, Chris Jans is making 3.2.

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

We had 600 pages devoted to Bruce Pearl last year who was also never going to coach at IU.

The word is that the deal was done until Buckner played his nepotism card, vetoed the deal and kept the Wizard of Broad Ripple. 

As BoT chair, he prevented the athletic director from performing his contractual duties in favor of propping up a feckless buddy.

[Home Jersey]

Who cares about arbitrary rankings of how good or bad the IU job is? 

It has plenty good going for it - in the Big Ten, pays well, good NIL, fertile recruiting ground. 

Fanbase/brand/recent lack of success concerns set aside, that's still an attractive situation for a lot of very capable coaches. 

I know we've been whale hunting most of today but I'll settle for a dolphin... someone intelligent, able to adapt and organized. 

Personality and ability to be a visible face of the program is a huge factor obviously.

Understanding the aura of IUBB in the culture and appreciating passionate, sometimes overzealous fans, is part of that. 

Suppose that could turn off some, but could just as well be appealing to an equal number of candidates. 

Don't think our pool of coaching upgrades is limited at all this cycle, so I am excited for the change, whoever that is. 

Looking forward to supporting a new coach who hopefully has a vision and a culture we can all buy into long term. 

[go iu bb]

45 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

So if you look at highest paid college coaches in 24, unless they have the facts wrong, mike Woodson is #13 highest paid college coach on that list. I don't know what it shows after bonuses etc. 

At one point, Woodson was in the top 10. Miller was also top 10 for a bit.

[JSHoosier]

37 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Yeah.  It's a top 10 coaching job.

That is why we got Tom Crean.  

That is why we got Archie Miller.

That is why we got Mike Woodsen.

Come to Indiana where you can end your career in 4 years.  

 

 

Indiana didn't end any of their careers.

Being awful at Georgia ended Crean's.

Miller went to Rhode Island and has won 43% of his games.

Woodson's head coaching career ended in 2014 because he's a lousy coach; Indiana was just dumb enough to see that as a green flag.

[PartyintheVillas]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

Indiana didn't end any if their careers.

Being awful at Georgia ended Crean's.

Miller went to Rhode Island and has won 43% of his games.

Woodson's head coaching career ended in 2014 because he's a lousy coach; Indiana was just dumb enough to see that as a green flag.

You can add Mike Davis failed at mid-major UAB before turning things around at a low major, Texas Southern, and then failed again at Detroit Mercy. Only Kelvin Sampson has won at a high level post-IU, and he's the only one that didn't get fired for losing too many games.

[JSHoosier]

52 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

You can add Mike Davis failed at mid-major UAB before turning things around at a low major, Texas Southern, and then failed again at Detroit Mercy. Only Kelvin Sampson has won at a high level post-IU, and he's the only one that didn't get fired for losing too many games.

Yeah, Davis continued working his way down the ladder after leaving IU. Sampson is the only legitimately good coach we've had in the last 25 years and he actually was winning.

Hmm, almost like IU can win with a good coach.

[AZ Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

At one point, Woodson was in the top 10. Miller was also top 10 for a bit.

Paycheck-wise... but neither were close to top 10, performance-wise.

[wirenuts]

It doesn't matter. I don't know about other posters on this board, but I find myself asking would I rather have a coach that is mentioned here as a replacement or Woodson back. The other coach has won every time. It doesn't even matter which coach was mentioned. 

[AH1971]

22 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

The word is that the deal was done until Buckner played his nepotism card, vetoed the deal and kept the Wizard of Broad Ripple. 

As BoT chair, he prevented the athletic director from performing his contractual duties in favor of propping up a feckless buddy.

The word from who? The guys who are telling you Brad Stevens is coaching here next season? lol 

[AZ Hoosier]

Just now, AH1971 said:

The word from who? The guys who are telling you Brad Stevens is coaching here next season? lol 

Some of them... and a few more not on this board...

But you go on hating... when we get the bandwagon rolling again, don't bother trying to hop back on...

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Some of them... and a few more not on this board...

But you go on hating... when we get the bandwagon rolling again, don't bother trying to hop back on...

Huh? I’ve never gotten off. I’ve never rooted for IU to lose or pretended I didn’t care. You’re barking up the wrong tree.

[wirenuts]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Huh? I’ve never gotten off. I’ve never rooted for IU to lose or pretended I didn’t care. You’re barking up the wrong tree.

You didn't find Steven's masshole interview to be just even a little suspicious the last go around?

If he hadn't talked to IU why would he talk up the IU job, and then pull a complete 180?

This is just my opinion, but there has to be at least a little smoke, and I have to think that they have called him, and AD in the state of Indiana may have called him. Why wouldn't they?

[monskisprodigy]

@AH1971

You have maybe posted this, but I likely missed it in the billions pages. 

If you don't think Stevens, May, Pearl are realistic, what is your list of candidates you would like to see / that you think would have interest?