They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[iu eyedoc]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

This is why im a huge advocate of woody being fired asap, like after Illinois. We’re talented, we are talented enough to make the tourney if coached properly. 

Yeah, but who would do that? CMW's ego made certain his staff was filled with yes men and inexperienced coaches. Fire Moe and you have to promote Larry or Curly, Shemp and Joe have no interest in the job.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Just now, iu eyedoc said:

Yeah, but who would do that? CMW made certain his staff was filled with yes men and inexperienced coaches.

Depressing 

[Hornsby]

Yeah, but who would do that? CMW's ego made certain his staff was filled with yes men and inexperienced coaches. Fire Moe and you have to promote Larry or Curly, Shemp and Joe have no interest in the job.

Yep all yes men.

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[AZ Hoosier]

27 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. I thought the coach could call a timeout. We had 2. Why didn't Woody just call a timeout? 

Woodson doesn’t call TOs…TOs call Woodson. 

[Kentuckysucks]

25 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Mick Cronin?  Hahahahaha

Hard pass.  Like Archie, I just don’t think he measures up to the job.

[IUFAN1976]

27 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Coaching malfeasance cost us the game last night.

Hatton should be the backup to Ballo. Make Reneau sit until he learns that his selfishness is hurting the team.

I agree that Rice should not have been the guy with the ball for the last possessions. I can see his mindset though. He was a major factor in our comeback v Maryland, and I think he wanted to play hero ball. It should have been Gallo, but that's what lousy coaching does. For Rice, he needs to sit, and only play when there are at least 3 starters on the floor, with the understanding that he is option #4. He does give us something neither Gallo or Leal possess, which is a quickness to blow by defenders. However he plays too out of control to be depended on.

Feel bad for the guys who played their hearts out last night. Feel angry that it took 2/3rds of the season for them to do so.

Players only meeting righted the ship a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, we don't have a TJD on this roster who combined the skill and respect of his teammates to lead the way. Closest guy that resembles this is Goode, and it's a shame that he was only a Hoosier for one year.

Finally, I think it is time that the players to tell Woodson to get out of the way. Let them run things with the help of Calbert and Hulls. Outcomes can't be any worse that what we are seeing.

Actually the last two games!  Both games we are down 1 with a final possession to win!  0-2, not good!

[str8baller]

50 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Didn't need anyone on the court to call for a timeout, Woody could have done it from the bench.  Did he even know that he could?

Did he call the timeout vs Maryland? It wasn’t Rice

[IUGRAD06]

Just now, str8baller said:

Did he call the timeout vs Maryland? It wasn’t Rice

He did which is what he is saying is BS 

[IUFAN1976]

18 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Yeah, but who would do that? CMW's ego made certain his staff was filled with yes men and inexperienced coaches. Fire Moe and you have to promote Larry or Curly, Shemp and Joe have no interest in the job.

In coaching and in business that never works out!  You have to have diversity on your staff whose opinions you value and matter!  That’s exactly why this is a train wreck!  At the beginning, the staff consisted of that with Fife and Matta, but we all know what happened there and it was because of 1 guy didnt allow it.  Honestly, this hire was a long shot to work because he had no college experience and not much success in the NBA, but it may have had a slight if he would have accepted Fife and Matta in their roles and allow himself to learn and grow in that position.  But MW’s enormous ego got in the way, and no one tells Mike Woodson how to coach but Mike Woodson 

[WeeDerkaNaut]

3 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I can save you the trouble... this is all visceral, and it's about "process". You still don't understand...  /s

And quit with the knee jerk reactions, this isn't even an action item yet!

[Scotty R]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Admittedly, I did not watch the game... but I have to ask...

If  Rice, Carlyle, Reneau and Tucker are such liabilities (and from what I've seen, they are)... why are they in the game at critical junctures? Seems to me to be a coaching/leadership issue. Of course, we all know and agree that there is... but inquiring minds just want to know why.

The only reason why Rice was in the game was Leal fouling out and Tucker or Reneau wasn't in the game.

[Scotty R]

58 minutes ago, jermhoosierfan said:

A nice discussion with a lot of names mentioned here.  Goodman acts like he knows that Woody is gone at the end of the season.

I watched that last night and everyone they mentioned they said it probably would be a long shot.

[HinnyHoosier]

3 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I'm just waiting until KathywithaC and the board meet so she can tell me how I should feel about the end of the game last night.

"Something something 'process'....something 'IU process....something 'evaluation'...."

[IUFAN1976]

1 minute ago, HinnyHoosier said:

"Something something 'process'....something 'IU process....something 'evaluation'...."

That about sums it up!

[Chris007]

1 hour ago, iu eyedoc said:

Do you think they aren't seeking that guy as we speak? Whatever can be done prior to seasons end is being done.

100%. Also as @cleeter said if you get rid of Woodson today then Dusty starts getting questions asked about the IU job before we play them. Or Brad does at the trade deadline. But now everyone can say IU has a coach right now. There is no job opening. 
 

But we’re talking to people for sure. I’m not guessing either.

[Ryno6284]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

100%. Also as @cleeter said if you get rid of Woodson today then Dusty starts getting questions asked about the IU job before we play them. Or Brad does at the trade deadline. But now everyone can say IU has a coach right now. There is no job opening. 
 

But we’re talking to people for sure. I’m not guessing either.

You're not guessing that we are talking to other coaches, or we aren't talking to Brad or Dusty?

[Hoosier DaDa]

18 hours ago, AH1971 said:

I don’t particularly care what he did at Georgia. We decided we were too good for S16’s and regular season B10 titles and haven’t sniffed either since.

And we weren’t going to sniff them again with Crean. Of course he had Grant Geleon (sp?) coming in to save the day.

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Ryno6284 said:

You're not guessing that we are talking to other coaches, or we aren't talking to Brad or Dusty?

We’re talking to agents, wife’s, coaches, kids everyone. I’m just messing around but yes back channeling is going on. Probably with many people but I know of one for sure.

[Herotime]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

We’re talking to agents, wife’s, coaches, kids everyone. I’m just messing around but yes back channeling is going on. Probably with many people but I know of one for sure.

Spill it, brother!

[Silat Player]

1 hour ago, iu eyedoc said:

Yeah, but who would do that? CMW's ego made certain his staff was filled with yes men and inexperienced coaches. Fire Moe and you have to promote Larry or Curly, Shemp and Joe have no interest in the job.

Maybe it's addition by subtraction. Just getting rid of Woodson's "wisdom" might be of assistance...