They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

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25 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not enough.  I’ve watched some of the championship games they played.  This year is the first time watching his teams closely.  Definitely doesn’t push the pace however if it results in big time wins and deep March runs then people will tolerate the snail pace 

He looks like he knows what he is doing on the sidelines and Drake  played with purpose. Was fun to watch him live ran the show for sure. 

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

8 hours ago, Hornsby said:

Facebook is pure comedy. His remaining crew is going with your a hater if you dont support him because it means you don't support the team. They are really outnumbered now though.

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Yes they are, even most of the media have turned on them!

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Sitting here contemplating how much IU gear to put on today before I make the 1.5 hr drive. Think maybe just a hat and shirt? Want to support the team but so ready for a change.

[Unexpectedflash 1,759]

20 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

He was terrific at Valpo and at GC as well.  But was absolutely terrible at Vandy who is now having a great season.  Not sure he’s cut out for a big boy job.

People should take a look at the current vandy coach Mark Byington also. Just beat Kentucky and they play a fast 5 out modern offense. He was at James Madison the year before so maybe a Cig part 2.

[Stuhoo 90,691]

11 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

People should take a look at the current vandy coach Mark Byington also. Just beat Kentucky and they play a fast 5 out modern offense. He was at James Madison the year before so maybe a Cig part 2.

One million percent yes.

Also, Jerrod Calhoun at Utah State and Micah.

Calhoun’s buyout is low; Vandy and ND are private schools so there isn’t public info on their contract terms.

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22 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

One million percent yes.

Also, Jerrod Calhoun at Utah State and Micah.

Calhoun’s buyout is low; Vandy and ND are private schools so there isn’t public info on their contract terms.

Stuhoo, almost positive you have been asked this before, so apologies. 

What makes you like Micah or think he would have success here? 

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32 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

One million percent yes.

Also, Jerrod Calhoun at Utah State and Micah.

Calhoun’s buyout is low; Vandy and ND are private schools so there isn’t public info on their contract terms.

You lost me at Micah. 

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14 hours ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Is this a thing? I honestly haven’t heard of him having any concerns. 

It’s not likely, that Self is done after this year. There’s nothing concrete on that being even remotely close to happening 

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42 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

One million percent yes.

Also, Jerrod Calhoun at Utah State and Micah.

Calhoun’s buyout is low; Vandy and ND are private schools so there isn’t public info on their contract terms.

Shrews hasn't shown me anything... but I like Jerrod Calhoun quite a bit.

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46 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

One million percent yes.

Also, Jerrod Calhoun at Utah State and Micah.

Calhoun’s buyout is low; Vandy and ND are private schools so there isn’t public info on their contract terms.

[IUHoosierJoe 2,159]

There were some questions earlier about Ben McCollom's pace of play when he was at D2 Northwest Missouri.  As a few of you may know, I do metrics as sort of a side hustle, so I am relying on that without ever having seen his teams play.

It is almost impossible to find tempo-based stats for the D2 level like Pomeroy does for D1.  However, Kenneth Massey's site has offensive and defensive scoring stats adjusted for opponents.  Those stats are NOT adjusted for tempo, but some conclusions can be drawn just from looking at the stats he provides.

In going over McCollom's season-by-season stats and rankings in D2, he led the nation in adjusted scoring defense basically every year. His offensive adjusted scoring stats ranged anywhere from the teens to the low-100s, out of around 300 teams in D2.

If you want a comparison at the D1 level during that period, the best comparison would be Tony Bennett at Virginia.  I will say, though, that McCollom's adjusted scoring offenses generally ranked somewhat higher than Bennett's Virginia offenses did at the D1 level. That could mean McCollom's tempo or pace was a bit faster, or simply that McCollom coached more efficient offenses.  In any event, my conclusion is that those two coaches, at least statistically, are pretty similar.

I will add that I noticed Northwest Missouri has fallen off the map this year with a record of 4-15, and it doesn't appear they were very good before he got there, either.  So, he was certainly a difference-maker there.    

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1 hour ago, monskisprodigy said:

Stuhoo, almost positive you have been asked this before, so apologies. 

What makes you like Micah or think he would have success here? 

What makes me a Micah fan? Everything except won/loss record at Notre Dame (which clearly is no small thing):

-Modern style of play

-College lifer

-Local ties

-NBA experience 

-Personality (watch him interviewed—very likable but he is also very blunt)

-Prior success in the B1G

-He would want the job

-Young

-Clean background

Basketball coach at Notre Dame is a really tough job. A P5 schedule with limited resources and very high admission standards, especially for portal which makes it impossible to rebuild quickly. On top of that he has had major injuries to his most talented players this year. I know it’s a very different era and no one is like RMK, but I feel like there are similarities between Micah and RMK at Army.

I am reasonably confident that he would consistently succeed in a real way at Indiana.

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FWIW: as a very much dark horse flier, I am also intrigued by Amile Jefferson. I am so itching for a 25 year+ era-long solution.

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[Hoosierfan2017 25,133]

How much do the Terps have to win by to rid us of Coach Mike Woodson?

[Hoosierfan2017 25,133]

13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

What makes me a Micah fan? Everything except won/loss record at Notre Dame (which clearly is no small thing):

-Modern style of play

-College lifer

-Local ties

-NBA experience 

-Personality (watch him interviewed—very likable but he is also very blunt)

-Prior success in the B1G

-He would want the job

-Young

-Clean background

Basketball coach at Notre Dame is a really tough job. A P5 schedule with limited resources and very high admission standards, especially for portal which makes it impossible to rebuild quickly. On top of that he has had major injuries to his most talented players this year. I know it’s a very different era and no one is like RMK, but I feel like there are similarities between Micah and RMK at Army.

I am reasonably confident that he would consistently succeed in a real way at Indiana.

So, everything but for the most important thing… Hiring a guy with 1 winning season in 6 years as a college head coach would be very on brand for recent IU, though. 

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4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

How much do the Terps have to win by to rid us of Coach Mike Woodson?

20+...

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4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

How much do the Terps have to win by to rid us of Coach Mike Woodson?

Probably will take down 20 at halftime, boos raining down on the team, the players actively ignoring him, a 3 minute "Fire Woodson" chant, a couple player fight technicals,  and him nodding off and falling out of his chair.

 

So probably 50/50

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33 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Probably will take down 20 at halftime, boos raining down on the team, the players actively ignoring him, a 3 minute "Fire Woodson" chant, a couple player fight technicals,  and him nodding off and falling out of his chair.

 

So probably 50/50

So a repeat of the Illinois game.

[IUFAN1976 4,320]

56 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Probably will take down 20 at halftime, boos raining down on the team, the players actively ignoring him, a 3 minute "Fire Woodson" chant, a couple player fight technicals,  and him nodding off and falling out of his chair.

 

So probably 50/50

I think Reneau starting will help that!

[BlueDevil 9,556]

these 2 tv clowns acting like woodson is playing 2 bigs to match maryland lol