They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[realTomCrean]

3 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I don't think you need a big name coach anymore.  You get a system guy and then have people holding a big bag.  And the system doesn't necessarily even matter, although I think you take a look at what the SEC is doing right now and emulate that if you ask me....but get a good coach and then back him with money and you should be fine.

We have the money part down

[realTomCrean]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

IndyRes posts here

His name on here is: @AZ Hoosier

[Pagoda]

1 minute ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I don't think you need a big name coach anymore.  You get a system guy and then have people holding a big bag.  And the system doesn't necessarily even matter, although I think you take a look at what the SEC is doing right now and emulate that if you ask me....but get a good coach and then back him with money and you should be fine.

Spot on.  Pre-NIL there was an art to recruiting, which included quite a bit of under the table compensation.  With all that above board now, many more coaches can be successful. I think 10+ coaches could do well at IU with our top 5 or 10 payroll.  Just pick any good X’s and O’s guy that plays a modern style and we are 75% of the way there.

[monskisprodigy]

20 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

14-30 Quad 1 

31-40 Quad 1&2 Combined which gives us a winning % of .442 in games against decent competition. 

Which is 2 hundredths of a point off Woody’s NBA head coaching record of .419– say what you want about Woody at least he’s consistent. You were constantly toying with us Tom. Either be consistently good or consistently bad, pick one!

Jokes aside, it’s actually pretty wild how close his coaching record in CBB matches his NBA record if you throw out the cupcakes lol

I always try to look at things objectively...and the numbers are - 

14-30 vs Quad 1 teams

17-10 vs Quad 2 teams

45-4 vs Quad 3/4 teams

76-44 overall

What most fans can't shake, is of those 44 overall losses, over half (26) have been by double digits, and 10 of those are by 20+ points.

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

14-30 vs Quad 1 teams

6-23 in Q1a games.   3 of the wins are against Purdue 

[OKHOOSIER]

27 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Well heck... SDB is currently telling me how well Iowa played lol 

 

This has been said a couple of times, I was PISSED at Ant Wright for kinda playing along with that the other day from an IUBB fan that insinuated that. BS claims. 

This is the entire schtick. They just run from one end to other chasing the goal posts. That one dude here jumped on me almost immediately for daring to suggest Penn State playing like dog crap had more to do with us winning than anything we did to make them uncomfortable. 
 

If we win it’s because IU executed a masterful game plan making the opposing team play awful and their coaches unable to counter the amazing adjustments, and if we lose it’s because of injuries or the other team playing out of their minds. All of Team Shill™️ is exactly the same. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

4 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Spot on.  Pre-NIL there was an art to recruiting, which included quite a bit of under the table compensation.  With all that above board now, many more coaches can be successful. I think 10+ coaches could do well at IU with our top 5 or 10 payroll.  Just pick any good X’s and O’s guy that plays a modern style and we are 75% of the way there.

Gotta get a tough coach who demands his kids play hard but is also respected as a winner.  Then recruit the kids that can handle being coached tough that want to win more than they want their 1st class ticket to the NBA.   Selling NBA pipedreams used to be the winning strategy when Calipari flipped the one and done system.  Times have changed.  Hard to win with great freshman now.  Gotta have the talent, but more importantly you have to have the type of player that hates to lose and will do the things it takes to win.  Then hopefully you find that person with great basketball talents.  

[AZ Hoosier]

17 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

His name on here is: @AZ Hoosier

Yeah, you got me... :D

[OKHOOSIER]

8 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

I always try to look at things objectively...and the numbers are - 

14-30 vs Quad 1 teams

17-10 vs Quad 2 teams

45-4 vs Quad 3/4 teams

76-44 overall

What most fans can't shake, is of those 44 overall losses, over half (26) have been by double digits, and 10 of those are by 20+ points.

So nearly a full 25% of losses in the Woodson era are massive blowouts. That’s eye-popping. One out of every four losses we get fired into the sun by someone lol. That feels like mid-major stuff. 
 

.260 in Q1a (thanks @Uspshoosier)is almost as bad as James Franklin against top-10 football teams. 

[spe317]

11 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

6-23 in Q1a games.   3 of the wins are against Purdue 

That’s heartbreaking. 

[Scotty R]

29 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

How long has he been posting?

He has been there for awhile. I put him on ignore last year and probably will do it again 

[Stuhoo]

22 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

6-23 in Q1a games.   3 of the wins are against Purdue 

I like the second sentence of your post

The first sentence is completely unacceptable.

[IUCrazy2]

51 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

There is a guy on HSN that could be Tyme or whatever his name is. IndianaResident16 is the username and he is over there arguing with everyone why IU is struggling. His main response is the coach loses the fan base to quickly and should be given more time. He is saying that the IU job isn't what it use to be so you won't be getting the top coaches because of the culture around the program.

I think it is him.  Either that or there is a network of dudes singing from his hymnal.

[Naturalhoosier]

5 hours ago, JaybobHoosier said:

It’s very special! lol. Can’t take anything away from @Naturalhoosier, he’s the one who came up with that. Doubt many posters today remember me much lol. 
 

Anyway, please fire Woodson! 

One thing I was good at was nicknames.

Jayboob, Tiny, Nips to name a few. Lol #thegoodoldays

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

I think it is him.

The name adds up

[JSHoosier]

18 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

So nearly a full 25% of losses in the Woodson era are massive blowouts. That’s eye-popping. One out of every four losses we get fired into the sun by someone lol. That feels like mid-major stuff. 
 

.260 in Q1a (thanks @Uspshoosier)is almost as bad as James Franklin against top-10 football teams. 

A quarter of the time we get dog walked. Woodson did his job.

[coonhounds]

Anyone who says anything other than coaching is holding this program back are dead wrong imo. Every school that is winning or has won big lately has one thing in common. They have good coaches. Not alot of mike woodson or Archie miller types winning national titles. Just my opinion. There are exceptions but not alot. We need a winner before I lose hope in this program. Sampson was a good coach and we were pretty good so that's where I am at. Crean had some great teams and was pretty good but not good enough. Look at the coaches we have had since knight. Look at the results. This isn't complicated just fire woodson and let's get a winner!

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[Hornsby]

If we go 0-fer in that stretch does Woody get dismissed?

No way. He will continue to do this the rest of the year and live it up.

 

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[Scotty R]

46 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

IndyRes posts here

I think use to

I remember two years ago during the portal recruiting time one of the sites he was telling us about looking at who the players were following on social to know where they were going.

On the road there site he was telling us about how the facilities are the most important thing to recruits

[Stuhoo]

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