They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Home Jersey]

Anyone going to the game tonight? Curious about the booing situation…

[KathywithaC]

57 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

No, based on what she has said, Dolson doesn’t have the authority to make hires. The Cig hire was a stakeholder decision, not his.

He has authority, but making that hire without consulting PW, QB and certain others within the University “family” just doesn’t happen. It works that way everywhere.

[KathywithaC]

53 minutes ago, mamasa said:

No, you're not sorry to disappoint. You enjoy swinging through here and putting your "it's just the way it is" posts out there as if we're supposed to take your word at face value. You enjoy acting as if you have knowledge that you're privy to dole as you see fit. 

It’s not my process but it’s the way things get done at IU. You’re obviously free to like it or not, but that doesn’t change any of that. Not sure why people are so offended by that.

[Capt. Crimson]

He has authority, but making that hire without consulting PW, QB and certain others within the University “family” just doesn’t happen. It works that way everywhere.

But was Cig “his guy”? Vs Woody who clearly wasn’t.


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[Home Jersey]

3 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

It’s not my process but it’s the way things get done at IU. You’re obviously free to like it or not, but that doesn’t change any of that. Not sure why people are so offended by that.

Maybe because it has led to a quarter century of pitiful basketball? Just a shot in the dark though. 

[Hovadipo]

11 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I still think we fire MW now and hire Crean or Fife as the interim coach and then hire a coach like Dusty May or Pearl after the season.  With this roster, either Crean or Fife would do a much better job than MW

That could work. I think you should shoot that to Dolson in an email.

[Hoosier DaDa]

19 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Let’s compare their year 4s.  Watshot or whatever we are seeing now. Hmmm

Not to mention he had to build up to year four with walkons.  Unlike Woody started with a all American. 

[Pagoda]

10 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Anyone going to the game tonight? Curious about the booing situation…

My guess is no cheers, but few if any boos.  We're a bunch of nice Midwesterners.  Maybe I'm wrong.

[DougJr74]

I appreciate the information KathywithaC is giving. We may not like it. It may not be what we want but, I believe she's telling the truth. 

[Hoosier DaDa]

19 hours ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Thanks to the Dolson/Buckner extension, the buyout won't drop until March 31, 2026.

If we aren't going to save any money, FIRE HIM NOW!!!!

[TheWatShot]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

If we aren't going to save any money, FIRE HIM NOW!!!!

Buyout is irrelevant. Purdue just fired a football coach they owe ~$10 million. I see no chance Woodson coaches here next season. 

[tyappleg]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I think she is trying to show how the process works or has worked in the past. I have had a lot of private conversations with Cathy and I think were all on the same page, just have different views or ways to how to get there. She has been around this program for a long time as most of us had. 

The problem is, she lost the plot completely when she states things like Woodson was more prepared to run a college program than Archie, and saying things like: He's a better coach than Tom Crean ever was.  Both of those are patently false. And she is still trying to claim all she said in this thread is he isn't going to be fired right now.  

She is right about him not being fired this month; but her sprinkling of absurd Mike Woodson opinions combined with the grammar policing has led to where we are now.

[Chris007]

36 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Th fact people had to try and convince themselves Woodson could maybe work out told us all we needed to know. But at least the you gotta hire an iu guy crowd got it out of their system now.

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Fans had to try to convince themselves or the administration.  Dolson got to swing for Stevens. After he missed he was told by Buckner & Ferguson that Woody was the guy. 

[JSHoosier]

20 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

Do you honestly believe Woodson wants his legacy to be that he helped run our storied basketball program into the ground and that, as long as he’s well paid, he’s fine? Do you really not understand that he loves IU and all it did for him? Do you really not understand the same about Buckner, who’s been associated with the University for over 50 years? I get that people are disappointed that the program hasn’t elevated to a national level, but some of the stuff mentioned here is really outlandish and nonsensical. Woodson will either get things going or he’ll get pushed out. Why is that so difficult for people to comprehend?

I don't think that's what he wants, but that doesn't matter. For much of the fanbase today, and the students at IU now, Mike Woodson the player only exists in dusty old pictures. They only know Mike Woodson the coach, the nepotism hire, the guy no one else was wanted to be head coach because of how bad he was/is.

The longer he's on the sidelines the more ruined his legacy will be, I don't think anyone wants that but it doesn't matter because the people that remember the player are aging out.

[Unexpectedflash]

I hope Dolson is allowed to take a shot on multiple coaches this time if that’s the case. That’s not a real coaching search since the chances of Steven’s leaving was 1%

[Chris007]

25 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Anyone going to the game tonight? Curious about the booing situation…

Tonight's game is what my officiating partners and I like to call a friends and family night. If you're not a family member of a player or close friend your probably not going. It's cold and it's on TV. CFP is also on and we would rather watch that. 

[Napleshoosier]

20 hours ago, KathywithaC said:

No, he doesn’t work as hard as Cig, but that’s only one issue. You know who did? Tom Crean. You want him back?

You shoulda been here for the “Creaning” of Crean!  It was epic!  lol 

[Chris007]

6 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

The problem is, she lost the plot completely when she states things like Woodson was more prepared to run a college program than Archie, and saying things like: He's a better coach than Tom Crean ever was.  Both of those are patently false. And she is still trying to claim all she said in this thread is he isn't going to be fired right now.  

She is right about him not being fired this month; but her sprinkling of absurd Mike Woodson opinions combined with the grammar policing has led to where we are now.

You are correct he was never prepared to be a college coach. There are many stories that back this up

[8bucks]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Fans had to try to convince themselves or the administration.  Dolson got to swing for Stevens. After he missed he was told by Buckner & Ferguson that Woody was the guy. 

Did you ever hear if Matta was a 2nd choice (2nd to BS) by Dolson?  I was told by a Woodson connection that Matta's involvement was news to them and the source at least felt like Matta was a potential HC candidate vs just the AD assistant role.  At that point news was starting to leak that Woodson may be the guy when we also started to hear about Matta.    I think Goodman tweeted out something similar.  

[Pagoda]

30 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

Yes I think so.  If half of what HH podcast states is true, and hearing his true fan BS during senior day.  He is absolutely fleecing IU.  He is doing his job. 

Yep.  IUBB has existed to serve Mike Woodson since 2021.  Mike's NBA career had reached a dead end, for seven years no one would hire him as a head coach because the whole NBA knew he wasn't good at it.  Quinn used his influence to bail him out and give him the IU job, where he makes 3-4x what he was making in the NBA.  Then IU gives him all the resources he could need to field an elite team: a large budget to run the program and top-20 now top-5 NIL to buy players.

In return, he provides (i) mediocre to poor results on the court, (ii) well documented half-assed effort, and (iii) divisive behavior and rhetoric.  He is toxic and it will be a great day when he leaves.