They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[AKHoosier]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Retire? You never know.

Fire? I think that the sole benefit of a portal season failure will be that we will, without question, start a new era next March.

So if we largely fail in the portal, we'll still have to endure a subpar to mediocre season just to fire him next March.

Most likely scenario to me is we get good-not-great additions and basically have the same win total next season. 

[bigrod]

12 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

That’s fine you feel that way.  I post here bc I’ve done so for a decade and it’s become a habit. Also I really enjoy the banter with other posters. Normally I’d be engaged in recruiting. I can’t tell you who or how many portal prospects we are in on. Simply don’t care. Recruiting? No idea what’s going on other than last time I checked we had 0 kids signed to the class where we needed guys. in the past I always had sneaking suspicions that the administration was inept but held out hope that they just had a string of bad luck. After this season, it’s been completely exposed that the program is not only inept, but corrupt and enriching themselves and friends. I resent them for it. Enough to have committed to withdrawing support in every possible way. I’m not interested in being an IU fan anymore. It doesn’t even hurt to say that anymore. 
 

Shamfully, I admit that I’m now starting to get feelings of satisfaction watching the program burn. Mainly bc I want the people who run it to face public shame and embarrassment. They deserve it. They certainly don’t deserve the unconditional support of the fanbase. 
 

 

I hate seeing this. I hate even more that you nailed my feelings on the nose. Except for contempt for the administration, I really feel very little towards IU basketball these days.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I'd love to have a Oats/Pearl/Hurley type of a coach as regarding coaching energy.  I don't know who fits that billing out there but I enjoy that type of competitiveness. You would think that energy would make it hard to recruit but that doesn't seem to be problem for those guys.  

Anyway, Monday thoughts.

[cleeter]

16 minutes ago, kottke said:

The UL search is very interesting and worth watching because we very well be in a similar situation next year if Woodson bombs in the portal and/or can't figure out how to put the pieces correctly until it's too late, like this year.

Obviously May won't be coming. Shrewsberry will probably be turning the corner with ND, would he want to leave and start all over...again? Schertz most likely will have just finished year one somewhere new, so don't see him leaving. I'm sure there are other young coaches I'm not even aware of, but I don't know of any that excite me like those 3. 

Then there are the older established guys. I personally don't like that route just because I'd prefer to have somebody in place for 10+ years, but beggars can't be choosers, right? Pearl will be another year older. Cal if he doesn't get fired this year and UK finally collapses?

Are we going to end up having to go with someone like Michael Lewis because he'd actually be interested in the job?

I know @AZ Hoosier wouldnt approve, but would anyone on here be okay with looking at Bryce Drew next year?
I personally would hope we would make a bigger more proven hire, but I do wonder if there is a time where we wouldn't be able to pull a proven guy from their current position. 

[pumpfake]

9 minutes ago, kottke said:

The UL search is very interesting and worth watching because we very well be in a similar situation next year if Woodson bombs in the portal and/or can't figure out how to put the pieces correctly until it's too late, like this year.

Obviously May won't be coming. Shrewsberry will probably be turning the corner with ND, would he want to leave and start all over...again? Schertz most likely will have just finished year one somewhere new, so don't see him leaving. I'm sure there are other young coaches I'm not even aware of, but I don't know of any that excite me like those 3. 

Then there are the older established guys. I personally don't like that route just because I'd prefer to have somebody in place for 10+ years, but beggars can't be choosers, right? Pearl will be another year older. Cal if he doesn't get fired this year and UK finally collapses?

Are we going to end up having to go with someone like Michael Lewis because he'd actually be interested in the job?

Ideally the best scenario would be hiring a younger coach who can be here for 10+ years. On the other hand, an older, sure-thing guy could basically rehabilitate the program for a future coach.  We were led to believe that was the strategy behind hiring Woodson, but he was the opposite of a sure-thing.  He was a first time cbb coach who had never been involved in much of what is essential (recruiting would be the prime example).

Dolson needs to be ultra-prepared, and willing to put it all on the line for the best coach he can hire (or be allowed to hire).

[Henryville Hoosier]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Sounds like Louisville is taking a long look at Schertz now

[JF87]

7 minutes ago, bigrod said:

I hate seeing this. I hate even more that you nailed my feelings on the nose. Except for contempt for the administration, I really feel very little towards IU basketball these days.

I haven't reached the apathy stage with IU basketball yet, but I know IU alums and fans that have.  I'm still in the anger phase.  The wealthy Woodson supporters may buy him a tournament team for next year, but I know that we will underperform no matter what talent is on the roster.  My days of enjoying and being proud of IU basketball are most likely on hold until a new coach is hired.  

[Jet812]

12 minutes ago, cleeter said:

I know @AZ Hoosier wouldnt approve, but would anyone on here be okay with looking at Bryce Drew next year?
I personally would hope we would make a bigger more proven hire, but I do wonder if there is a time where we wouldn't be able to pull a proven guy from their current position. 

The guy that went 0-18 in the SEC & got fired from Vanderbilt?

[Hoosier DaDa]

12 minutes ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

Looks like Xavier Johnson fighting through a screen.

[ib4iu]

11 minutes ago, JF87 said:

I haven't reached the apathy stage with IU basketball yet, but I know IU alums and fans that have.  I'm still in the anger phase.  The wealthy Woodson supporters may buy him a tournament team for next year, but I know that we will underperform no matter what talent is on the roster.  My days of enjoying and being proud of IU basketball are most likely on hold until a new coach is hired.  

I’ve reached the stage where I hate watch. I made it to one game in Bloomington. It was for NW. Seeing the pathetic lack of movement in person on offense was even grosser than on tv. No one moves. It’s disgusting. 
 

on another note. Many believe or are high on Oats. He’s never made it past a S16. I get we can’t be choosers where we are and will end up being beggars but that guy isn’t without flaws. Especially the way he handled the B Miller stuff. I’d rather have someone with other checkered past than that. 

[cleeter]

5 minutes ago, Jet812 said:

The guy that went 0-18 in the SEC & got fired from Vanderbilt?

I said i wouldn't want him, but we might be getting to the point where that might be the best we can do. Some young whippersnapper, who has done well at a smaller school where we hope we can hit a home run with. 

[BigJoe]

Mark Byington

[ib4iu]

Our best case scenario now in my mind, is Josh Schertz stays at ISU one more year (won’t happen) and IU gets him. If you watch his interviews they are fun and laid back, much like Pearl. His teams are fun to watch. Needs better defense but he has connections in the state, already has Matt Graves on staff, and is a proven winner. This guy might actually be Bruce Pearl 2.0. If he spends one more year at ISU, it will be very similar to BP spending 4 years at Wisconsin-Milwaukee before Tennessee. 

[Stuhoo]

10 minutes ago, cleeter said:

I said i wouldn't want him, but we might be getting to the point where that might be the best we can do. Some young whippersnapper, who has done well at a smaller school where we hope we can hit a home run with. 

Hell no. Bryce Drew is not the best we can do. We can very much avoid a coach that was an unmitigated failure at his P5 opportunity.

Holloway (if he wants to leave the Seton Hall? hell yes), Kelsey, Schertz (as good as any, but more in our eyes because of proximity), Mark Byington, Bucky McMillan (that guy really intrigues me as an on-court coach and motivator).

 

[Kentuckysucks]

34 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'd love to have a Oats/Pearl/Hurley type of a coach as regarding coaching energy.  I don't know who fits that billing out there but I enjoy that type of competitiveness. You would think that energy would make it hard to recruit but that doesn't seem to be problem for those guys.  

Anyway, Monday thoughts.

I know a guy.

[Stuhoo]

Bucky-ball.

Go to the 5:20 mark.

 

[AKHoosier]

40 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'd love to have a Oats/Pearl/Hurley type of a coach as regarding coaching energy.  I don't know who fits that billing out there but I enjoy that type of competitiveness. You would think that energy would make it hard to recruit but that doesn't seem to be problem for those guys.  

Anyway, Monday thoughts.

So often a team's identity is directly reflective of a coach's personality/energy. For better (Oats, Pearl, Hurley) or for worse (Woodson).

[Hoosierfan2017]

These names are depressing. Iubb is doomed. 

[68Hoosier]

31 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

Looks like Xavier Johnson fighting through a screen.

I spit out my drink when I read that.  OMG, you can't do that to old guy.  I almost choaked on a Diet Coke.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

21 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I know a guy.

I wish we could get him on the bench somewhere. He'd make a hell of an offensive minded assistant. And looking at the assistants we have now... Well just about anything is an upgrade it seems. Especially developmentally.