They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[DChoosier 9,854]

49 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I think we have to understand too..It is HARD to get to a Final Four. Yet alone win a title. This is zero disrespect to any IU team pre 1985 but Iu has only been to 3 final fours and won one title since the tournament expanded to 64 teams. There is so much parity in College Basketball right now. 

It is hard to get to a Final Four and there is more parity but we have a dream (some would say ridiculous fantasy) to once again be a legitimate blue blood.

In spite of the 64 team expansion,  since ‘84, in that timeframe UCONN has won 5 nattys, Duke 5, UNC 4, Kansas 3, Nova 3 and UK 3.  The top tier programs have continued to win a disproportionate percentage of the championships. Would be fun to be back in those conversations.

[JSHoosier 22,240]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I'd have to say you're naive if you don't think IU has skirted the rules as it pertains to NIL and how it's presented to prospective recruits. Is it really a big deal if EVERYBODY is doing it?

If the people expected to enforce the rules don't care about them, then the rules aren't worth the paper they're written on.

[AZ Hoosier 11,021]

48 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Knight was a stickler for playing by the NCAA rules.  Knight suspended Alford for the Kentucky game because Alford took part in charity calendar in violation of NCAA rules. It was always reported that Knight had "issues" with anger and outbursts.  There were a few instances where it was said that he physically assaulted people.  I think it was reported that he threw an opposing fan into a trash can and there was an issue with a security guard in Puerto Rico.  He could also be demanding of his players, but nothing as bad as a recruit would go through at boot camp. No social media then, so you had to rely on what you heard.  Most of his players spoke highly of him.  But ultimately, we wanted to believe the good over the bad because he was a winner.  

The NCAA suspended Stevie, and according to Alford in Playing for Knight, Knight was pissed at Alford for not knowing the rules.

However, your point is valid. Knight played by the NCAA rules... the majority of Knight's warts were with his personal behavior (Puerto Rico, the LSU fan in the bar, etc).

[IU_FanClub 1,857]

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but my takeaway from the Trilly stuff is that Scott wants to replace Woodson with Pearl but he has to convince the higher ups to let him. I could be way off on that but that's the way I see it.

[SamIam 733]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Right. 

Breaking the law is bad.

Whew, well thank god Bruce Pearl is clean in that regard. It would really suck if his assistant, oh idk, caught a federal bribery charge. 

[68Hoosier 1,304]

6 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Bring on Page 200!!! 

I am helping do my part.

[JSHoosier 22,240]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

 Most of the time, the rules are pretty obscure and dumb anyway.

No joke. We had a couple players get suspended under Crean because of bumper stickers.

[Chris007 62,608]

9 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Pretty sure I remember reading that Oats wants no part of coaching in the B1G. I think he and Musselman are similar in that regard. 

I think Oats has some incredible buyout too. Something like 27 million

[IUrocker 2,490]

Ok, since we’re about to reach page 200, let’s get a consensus on everything that has transpired. As of right now, do we think Woodson will be gone after this season or not? I need to see a bunch of “after this season 100%” haha 

[68Hoosier 1,304]

I am still doing my part, LOL

[Home Jersey 16,390]

Just now, IUrocker said:

Ok, since we’re about to reach page 200, let’s get a consensus on everything that has transpired. As of right now, do we think Woodson will be gone after this season or not? I need to see a bunch of “after this season 100%” haha 

Congrats for being at the top of the page. How many hundred more left to go? Do we want to start making odds? 

[AH1971 3,326]

Just now, SamIam said:

Whew, well thank god Bruce Pearl is clean in that regard. It would really suck if his assistant, oh idk, caught a federal bribery charge. 

Student-athletes are now allowed to sign and work with agents, so the need for some under the table funny business no longer exists.

[theriverpilot 6,743]

14 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Honestly, I never thought I would say this in a million years, but I would take Crean over Woodson any day!

100% agree.  Also 100% don't want that to happen! :-D

[Capt. Crimson 3,983]

1 minute ago, IUrocker said:

Ok, since we’re about to reach page 200, let’s get a consensus on everything that has transpired. As of right now, do we think Woodson will be gone after this season or not? I need to see a bunch of “after this season 100%” haha 

I am at 65% stays, 35% goes with that leveling out with each passing day. 

[ISP 953]

The Trilly stuff is (a) Trilly said that he thinks Pearl would be IU's option 1 if Woody was let go (b) previously he said he reached out to someone close to Pearl and they said "the IU job has always meant something more to Bruce"

[Chris007 62,608]

1 minute ago, IU_FanClub said:

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but my takeaway from the Trilly stuff is that Scott wants to replace Woodson with Pearl but he has to convince the higher ups to let him. I could be way off on that but that's the way I see it.

Also will say knowing Scott he's not going to do anything without having his man in place. Also as I believe @ISP said if Bruce is your guy then you need to go get him now, he's not getting any younger.

[68Hoosier 1,304]

Ok, so now i am just trying to help my post count.

[cleeter 3,022]

For everyone complaining about Pearl and his  cheating, the next time i catch you all speeding, i am going to raise hell with you.
Do i want to cheat ? No
Do i want to win? Hell yeah
Am i okay with winning if we may or may dip our toes into the gray area, or go "82 in a 65" per say. - Yes

I mean would we be happy if we were Duke Fans? Kansas? UNC? Tennessee? Uconn? Do we all honestly believe that they are 100% clean and follow the book to a tee? No way. 

[Home Jersey 16,390]

Just now, 68Hoosier said:

Ok, so now i am just trying to help my post count.

You'll be a 5-star recruit in no time kid.

[cybergates 519]

Not that it matters but I'm out on Pearl. 

Buyout, salary, age for his Auburn results no thanks. I know the hope would be that he could be better at IU than at Auburn, but we've been burned by that line of thinking for years now. Would have been a great hire during plenty of the previous searches.