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They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

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27 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I’m curious about the timeline for all of this.

I think we could get some sort of formal release today, but wouldn’t be shocked if this drags into next week as agents and lawyers hash out money and wording.

Even beyond that, IU still has a month of the regular season left, and then add at least a week for the B1G tournament, more if they rally or make the NIT or something (I don’t expect it).

Woody was hired 13 days after Archie was fired. Cignetti was hired 4(!) days after Allen was fired.

With the trade deadline in the past, if it’s Brad, I do wonder if we’d hear formal reporting about meetings or negotiations, unlike last cycle, just from the standpoint that he could theoretically line up the job before mid-March (and surely Dolson’s goal would be sooner is better).

Obviously I know that trustworthy folks here will be able to make reference to things that can’t be reported yet, but a long timeline like this is somewhat unusual in general, and at IU in particular, at least in recent years.

That is a great question. I don't have an answer either but am curious about what the time line is. 

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1 hour ago, 94Hoosier said:

Osterman Was just on 107.5.  
 

Most of what he said was worthless, but at the very end, I think he seemed to make it very clear that Woody is not wanting to go quietly   

Wow ... ya think?

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21 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

That's the real issue where I sit. The man has such a huge ego that he cannot see the big picture. He needs an intervention by those who really care about him, including his family and his buddies Quinn, Isiah, Wittman, Ferguson, etc... he's quickly becoming a national laughing stock... and all of these people who claim to love Indiana University are doing him and his reputation/legacy and the reputation of IU are doing him a huge disservice... it's like they're trashing the university and Woodson himself for their entertainment... and/or to "stick it" to the fanbase.

I get it that Buckner only has a few months left, but can we initiate a recall or impeachment effort against him. He needs to go, too.

 

It was never about their "love for IU", they wanted their buddy to have the job that was it. They're probably not happy right now.

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Just now, JSHoosier said:

It was never about their "love for IU", they wanted their buddy to have the job that was it. They're probably not happy right now.

Good. 

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59 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Splitting hairs here, but it's easy to play devil's advocate with Few:

1.) He's older. I know that was ok with Cig, but that limits the time he'd be here and you do wonder about energy levels at a new job. 

2.) He's a very introverted guy. IU had that with Miller and it was a problem. That really laid back personality might work much better at a smaller smaller school in a much smaller conference. 

3.) He has gotten to a lot of Sweet 16s, the question is how much of a that is from building a great record in a less stellar conference? Gonzaga has gotten a lot of really high seeds from good records in a less difficult conference. High seeds make that first weekend of the tournament a lot easier. 

4.) There was that DUI.

5.) Did losing Lloyd as his lead recruiter hurt his recruiting? Wasnt he Few's pipeline to Euros that had created so much of his success? Will he still experience the same level of success w/o them? 

Just throwing that all out there...

I don’t care what conference you are in it’s not easy to win on the road. In my opinion Few is a top 10 coach in college basketball. I would take him as a coach in a heart beat. As far as age goes 62 not ideal but could easily coach another 10 years plus. I am 100% on board.

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12 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

As for who knows where the origin of the word “discussion” comes from or the idea Woody is “contemplating” retiring … yes, likely a degree of media not erroneously reporting. But also this was all just smoke from burners before Goodman jumped in with that wording and everyone else piled on. It could be just as simple as that, it could also be that Mike’s camp got ahead of all the rumors and said he’s “contemplating” it to make it look like he’s not getting fired. And if he doesn’t finish at end of season, as is “currently expected” while the “terms of exit are negotiated” then it will be obvious Dolson canned him. Been a lot of talk about wanting to avoid those optics, for obvious reasons. Bottom line IMO: the “contemplating” narrative is only helpful to one side and it’s not IU

I hope Woody’s window to do this his way is closing and IU is preparing to fire him immediately if he keeps screwing around.

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Unless "The King" has some dirt on someone, how could he possibly make this ugly? He goes crying to the media? He has no backers other than Buckner..."They fired me because I could not get over the hump! Thats not nice!"....Give me a break...UNLESS he has something on someone, they should just fire him. He did not meet our expectations and we do not see that changing in the future. Let him throw a tantrum but he has very little to stand on UNLESS he has dirt, IMO.

 

Indiana is a "fire at will" state so good luck with any lawsuit, Woodrow.

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Most outlets will list 5 or 10 guesses when a coaching search opens. 

Not "The Daily Hoosier." 

They list no less than 32 candidates. 

Dolson's gonna be busy over the next month and a half -- interviewing all these guys! 

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-basketball-coaching-search-2025-the-master-list-of-candidates/?fbclid=IwY2xjawITCvNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHXtLa5UqIJejB_F5bTx7-zjW088pnWT_zPe5sNpkvSkltwdJcy7nTKNMbw_aem_WmGQ0DIc_gbd0o1zp7ya_w

 

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Just now, IU Prof said:

13 days after Archie was fired felt like an eternity. I can't imagine what 40+ days will be like...

I didn't believe it was 13 days after Archie till I saw that post. I would have put that at 30 days for sure.

But we have to remember we usually do this at the beginning of March not the beginning of February.

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52 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

In the end, Mike Woodson is a public employee.  If a person that is paid -- not sure if he is the highest paid public employee in Indiana, but he's up there -- refuses to answer to the media and is a pain to anyone who has legitimate questions -- then they should face criticism.

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1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

Absolutely would love it.

53 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

The shenanigans around the whole Woodson tenure certainly would warrant an investigation. The latest episode hijacking an IU jet for personal use is more evidence.

If there's graft and corruption in any of this, it needs to be exposed and the guilty held accountable. Corruption? Malfeasance? Misuse of university assets?

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3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woody showed his true character during his four years as head coach. Criticizing said demonstrated character isn’t “character assassination.” 

He has been set on assassinating his own character, IMO. He could have just said "Hey, I tried my best, but I just can't seem to get it done. I don't want to drag the university that I love through the mud and more losses, so I am going to step down and start my next chapter in life...retirement"...He would have been cheered and that is how he would have been remembered.... Woody chooses the hard way.

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47 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

What does that even mean?

There is now no way Woodson will be the coach next year, it's already public that he won't be.

Does it mean he wants to "make some noise" with the team by winning some games? In that case, what is he actually going to do differently than he was doing before? What he's been doing wasn't working. Is he going to start trying all of a sudden? In that case, he should be fired for not putting in the effort until he was being shown the door. I guess some of the last few games look winnable, just like last year. So maybe they could win some games and feel like they turned it around when it was actually just a favorable schedule.

I don't really care what Woodson does at this point. He won't be the coach after this year. I don't think he can fix his image/coaching legacy in the last few games. It's more likely it's just more embarrassment for himself.

Right? I mean, I HOPE that Woody has already been trying as hard as he possibly could to win games. LOL

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