They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[BlueDevil 9,108]

1 minute ago, pumpfake said:

One factor to think about is a prospective coach's experience with NIL players.  We talk about how much $$ we have for NIL, but the most talented ones want money, PT, and an opportunity to showcase themselves.  I'd argue that those players are quite different than the players Stevens had at Butler.  There has to be some question of either how well he can succeed with ego-driven mercenaries or can he build more in the traditional way at IU.  IDK, but I'm inclined to believe he'd be more successful going more the traditional route.

Brad Stevens remains my #1 choice BTW.

I think you would see more of the Matt Painter approach with Stevens with recruiting. I don’t see him hitting the portal to fill an entire roster (may have to year 1) but hitting the portal to fill a missing piece or 2.

[Dave from Dayton 3,512]

3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,702]

2 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

One factor to think about is a prospective coach's experience with NIL players.  We talk about how much $$ we have for NIL, but the most talented ones want money, PT, and an opportunity to showcase themselves.  I'd argue that those players are quite different than the players Stevens had at Butler.  There has to be some question of either how well he can succeed with ego-driven mercenaries or can he build more in the traditional way at IU.  IDK, but I'm inclined to believe he'd be more successful going more the traditional route.

Brad Stevens remains my #1 choice BTW.

You could argue those are quite different than the Butler kids, and I'd agree, not so much different than the NBA players he's working with now, though. 

[ap2345 9,303]

1 hour ago, Pudman said:

Something is missing here, and I approve :)

He there yet?

[IUHoosierJoe 1,435]

14 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I heard for years few would never come here. What changed?

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My opinion?  NIL, for one.  And #2, the contract Curt Cignetti got shows that we now have a president and AD extremely serious about athletics.  Coaches like Few and probably others might believe they can come here and put themselves on the Mount Rushmore of college basketball coaches.

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 55]

1 hour ago, deserthoosier said:

Did he pay someone to drive his car up there, then came to work in a Lyft? LOL

Nope it was there from the night before after too many cigars got him feeling woozy 

[iu eyedoc 2,685]

43 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

Osterman Was just on 107.5.  
 

Most of what he said was worthless, but at the very end, I think he seemed to make it very clear that Woody is not wanting to go quietly   

Well it will be far from quiet tomorrow.

[Home Jersey 10,661]

Just now, Dave from Dayton said:

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

That’s fine. We can agree to disagree. This rises above being crappy at their jobs IMO. Petty and seeking retribution? Some call that justice, lol :) 

Why should we let them trample rules everyone else has to play by and destroy the basketball program in the process while making the university a laughing stock? Charges will never be brought but they can take all the public scrutiny they’ve earned. Don’t see a reason to run cover for them just to keep the peace.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,702]

1 minute ago, BlueDevil said:

I think you would see more of the Matt Painter approach with Stevens with recruiting. I don’t see him hitting the portal to fill an entire roster (may have to year 1) but hitting the portal to fill a missing piece or 2.

Braden Smith, Jack Benter, and TKR wouldn't be Boilers, you say? Smh

Probably not Loyer, but he certainly wouldn't have been starting as a FR, maybe not last year. 

[Hornsby 2,859]

Nothing worse than rich and powerful people who feel they are above accountability. Kick this guy to the curb Scott. He doesn’t deserve an ounce of good will. 

The arrogance and entitlement of those two is just sickening.

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[Chris007 49,905]

19 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I heard for years few would never come here. What changed?

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Can't win a NC at Gonzaga. Needs a place that has plenty of NIL money. 

 

Plus plenty of fishing at Lake Monroe. 

[Hoosier DaDa 3,236]

At my desk at the office for another day of blowing off work and refreshing this page.  Good luck to all my fellow "true fans" on not getting caught by your bosses today reading, posting and refreshing.  Cheers all and let's have a great weekend! 

[Hornsby 2,859]

The guys on Facebook are demanding we show the king respect. Lol. The same king who trashed us all.

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[Pagoda 1,680]

8 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

It’s not personal.  Just some fact finding and investigating to get the whole picture.  IUBB is the team of a public university and it has a lot of fans.  People should know how it is being run.  Maybe nothing is found, but it’s worth a look.

[go iu bb 7,213]

56 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

Osterman Was just on 107.5.  
 

Most of what he said was worthless, but at the very end, I think he seemed to make it very clear that Woody is not wanting to go quietly   

What does that even mean?

There is now no way Woodson will be the coach next year, it's already public that he won't be.

Does it mean he wants to "make some noise" with the team by winning some games? In that case, what is he actually going to do differently than he was doing before? What he's been doing wasn't working. Is he going to start trying all of a sudden? In that case, he should be fired for not putting in the effort until he was being shown the door. I guess some of the last few games look winnable, just like last year. So maybe they could win some games and feel like they turned it around when it was actually just a favorable schedule.

I don't really care what Woodson does at this point. He won't be the coach after this year. I don't think he can fix his image/coaching legacy in the last few games. It's more likely it's just more embarrassment for himself.

[AKHoosier 7,201]

Very curious what the press release will say today, and when it will drop.

 

[Home Jersey 10,661]

With all this drama the past couple days, is there any doubt the team is prepared to win tomorrow? LOL

[AZ Hoosier 8,599]

3 hours ago, TTT said:

So many big time contracts are legal scams.  This one for failure.  Besides all the facilities, support, NIL money…..$8,000,000 reward for failure…and it goes on.. These are the best kind of gigs for those individuals who can get one.

[AZ Hoosier 8,599]

3 hours ago, SlammySammy said:

I think we need to take some time contemplating Cronin....midwestern guy.....don't see any downside to his record...just as good if not better than some of the "not-stevens" candidates that we are throwing around....AND, more importantly, hes not at the top of the list and will come out of nowhere...like we got hit with Woody out of nowhere and nobody was talking about him on THIS board.

Ok, with that being said, my list is as follows:

1) Stevens (fantasy)

2) May

3) Beard

4) Cronin

5) McCollum

6) Few

 

 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,702]

Make a separate thread about Buckner