Big Ten basketball is a mess

[HoosierAloha]

5 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

And then there were none…

Don't be surprised when Wiscy, purdon't, and msu coaches double down and forward passes are not allowed in conference play next season.

[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

We got beat by a 5 seed....with their "best team" Purdue gets beat by a 15 seed and officially accomplished nothing this season. No Big Ten regular season championship, no Big Ten tournament championship, and no final four appearance...wow

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Coming up short in March, a long running tradition for Purdue.

[go iu bb]

B1G

[HoosierHoops1]

11 hours ago, str8baller said:

I’m confused by this part. Are you saying there are effectively caps on the payout dictated by year? Or are you saying you can’t tie payment to longevity? 

Can't be based on coming to IU or staying at IU.

[HoosierHoops1]

1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

Lol OK big tens a mess! Officially can talk about it but also don't care until iu relevant again

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Indiana is the B1G bell weather. There may be occasional outliers, but when the B1G wins a title,  it's usually because Indiana wins a title.

B1G fortunes will change when Indiana gets back to our position.

[HoosierAloha]

35 minutes ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

Can't be based on coming to IU or staying at IU.

How does contract law work in Indiana? Could you create a contract that ties to something about being in the area but not directly stating being a student at IU? Seems like this lacks imagination which doesn't surprise me.

[Magnanimous]

With Purdue now out, the obvious is being said - Link 

[hoosierfan6157]

Hope they finally listen^^^^^ Thanks for sharing Magnanimous 

[MikeRoberts]

My takeaway from this tourney and most over the last 20 years is that we don’t need to have giant, slow, back to the basket bigs to compete in the bigten, and in fact, we would be better off not having that. 
these teams with skinny, athletic bigs and in some cases guys 6’8” defending the post perform just fine against the bigtens monsters

 

[HoosierHoopster]

7 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

My takeaway from this tourney and most over the last 20 years is that we don’t need to have giant, slow, back to the basket bigs to compete in the bigten, and in fact, we would be better off not having that. 
these teams with skinny, athletic bigs and in some cases guys 6’8” defending the post perform just fine against the bigtens monsters

 

Just as the NBA has moved away from the slow or front-court limited big so too is college ball moving away. Long athletic bigs who can get out and guard on the wing or perimeter and bring a jumper. 

[HoosierAloha]

28 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

My takeaway from this tourney and most over the last 20 years is that we don’t need to have giant, slow, back to the basket bigs to compete in the bigten, and in fact, we would be better off not having that. 
these teams with skinny, athletic bigs and in some cases guys 6’8” defending the post perform just fine against the bigtens monsters

 

The issue doesn't lie with other teams facing Big 1.o teams in the tourney. It's when you have to play 20 games where officials allow for assault that you need to match statues with statues.

[Demo]

26 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

My takeaway from this tourney and most over the last 20 years is that we don’t need to have giant, slow, back to the basket bigs to compete in the bigten, and in fact, we would be better off not having that. 
these teams with skinny, athletic bigs and in some cases guys 6’8” defending the post perform just fine against the bigtens monsters

 

Yup. If you can’t switch you can’t play. And it doesn’t take some kind of coaching savant. You take Edey or Cockburn or Dickinson and just put’em in high ball screen and they’ve got no chance. If the guard can’t get over the screen all those guys can do is drop cover and if the guy with the ball’s any good at all you’re dead. Hell, X put Edey on the bench in the IU game. 

[Alford Bailey]

1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

My takeaway from this tourney and most over the last 20 years is that we don’t need to have giant, slow, back to the basket bigs to compete in the bigten, and in fact, we would be better off not having that. 
these teams with skinny, athletic bigs and in some cases guys 6’8” defending the post perform just fine against the bigtens monsters

 

Quick athletic guys who can also shoot

[jonz44]

The issue doesn't lie with other teams facing Big 1.o teams in the tourney. It's when you have to play 20 games where officials allow for assault that you need to match statues with statues.

I wish IU would just concentrate on putting together an NCAA tournament worthy team. Just let the B1G season work it's self out.

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[Banksyrules]

10 minutes ago, jonz44 said:

I wish IU would just concentrate on putting together an NCAA tournament worthy team. Just let the B1G season work it's self out.

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I think it’s a little more complex than that in my opinion. Woodson’s style of play carries over to the big dance, but the Big Ten through the course of the season does a number on you. Big ten athletes just look flat out beat up when playing fresher opponents. 

[HoosierAloha]

purdoodoo lost that game because of their guards. They kept saying something about Edey only being 3/4 for x points or 4/6 for y points. Their guards had a lot of turnovers and didn't shoot well enough from outside. They completely went away from Edey in the second half.

[Alford Bailey]

4 hours ago, Banksyrules said:

I think it’s a little more complex than that in my opinion. Woodson’s style of play carries over to the big dance, but the Big Ten through the course of the season does a number on you. Big ten athletes just look flat out beat up when playing fresher opponents. 

I think the brutal winters play a partial role as well.

[MikeRoberts]

7 hours ago, Banksyrules said:

I think it’s a little more complex than that in my opinion. Woodson’s style of play carries over to the big dance, but the Big Ten through the course of the season does a number on you. Big ten athletes just look flat out beat up when playing fresher opponents. 

I really don’t understand people’s comments like this. There is nothing about the bigten that makes players beat up or not fresh when it comes tourney time. One could say the bigten tourney might as it ends so late but but not the style of play. 

[HoosierInParadise]

I really don’t understand people’s comments like this. There is nothing about the bigten that makes players beat up or not fresh when it comes tourney time. One could say the bigten tourney might as it ends so late but but not the style of play. 

I think it all just comes down to the talent in the B10 is just not as good as other conferences. Our style of play may lead other schools recruiting against the B10 as a whole where they are able to convince them that it does not translate to the next level or in the tournament. Top talent doesn't come to the B10.

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[MikeRoberts]

5 minutes ago, mbredenk101 said:

I think it all just comes down to the talent in the B10 is just not as good as other conferences. Our style of play may lead other schools recruiting against the B10 as a whole where they are able to convince them that it does not translate to the next level or in the tournament. Top talent doesn't come to the B10.

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100% the bigten lacks elite  athletes. It’s not all that different in basketball as it is in football. The elite athletes for the most part are not found in the bigten. That doesn’t mean there isn’t talented players, far from it but those guys are usually very skilled, not overly athletic