(2024) PF - Derik Queen to Maryland

[Demo]

37 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not good for our chances if true.

He knows so much about IU. If he was sold he would commit. If he’s not sold by now there probably aren’t new variables that will change the equation.

No idea if it’s good for IU or not, but there’s no way it’s good for Maryland. 

[HinnyHoosier]

3 minutes ago, Demo said:

No idea if it’s good for IU or not, but there’s no way it’s good for Maryland. 

Agreed. There hasn't been this much sweating at Maryland since Gary Williams. 

[Demo]

Just now, Ngw7183 said:

Correct, they could in theory win him back but for a guy that was all but penciled in, this shows IU made big in roads and completely changed his plan to sign in the fall. Maryland is the one where there is nothing else they can do. They had the “home town discount” if you will. 

In Woodys voice, “well again” - This comes down to us having a solid year and TJD doing well (as he has been), JHS and MM getting going wouldn’t hurt either. 

He is saying, ok IU, I am there to spurn my long time love, but not 100. Show me more. 

Would assume the issue here is roster construction. With Reneau and Sparks almost certainly in place, if for whatever reason Ware doesn’t go after this year the fit for Queen doesn’t make a bunch of sense. In the spring you’ll have clarity. 

[IUHoosier5]

4 minutes ago, Demo said:

Would assume the issue here is roster construction. With Reneau and Sparks almost certainly in place, if for whatever reason Ware doesn’t go after this year the fit for Queen doesn’t make a bunch of sense. In the spring you’ll have clarity. 

I see no way in which Ware doesn’t declare and become a 1st Round Pick. I think that’s been the plan all along. When the season is over, he may even had earned lottery status. If Reneau’s defense improves significantly with the rest of the team and he shows he can consistently shoot some from outside, he may declare as well. The kid can score, so I think his biggest question mark is defense. I’m interested to see how Coach gets him to make that improvement.

[IU_FanClub]

58 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not good for our chances if true.

He knows so much about IU. If he was sold he would commit. If he’s not sold by now there probably aren’t new variables that will change the equation.

Well in that case it would be bad news for all 4 schools, he's making a huge decision he probably just wants to be absolutely sure of himself

[IU_FanClub]

I'm ready for this one to be over and I hope we never recruit against Maryland again. The obsession on peegs with the Maryland board has reached a point of being totally pathetic and it's completely dominated every thread. There is no reason at all we should give any sort of **** what Maryland fans think. If we lose this one we will make it up on the back end in the spring, if they lose this one they are screwed. Just overall shocked at the level of real estate some IU fans have let maryland purchase in their heads

[Demo]

6 minutes ago, IUHoosier5 said:

I see no way in which Ware doesn’t declare and become a 1st Round Pick. I think that’s been the plan all along. When the season is over, he may even had earned lottery status. If Reneau’s defense improves significantly with the rest of the team and he shows he can consistently shoot some from outside, he may declare as well. The kid can score, so I think his biggest question mark is defense. I’m interested to see how Coach gets him to make that improvement.

I hope you’re right on both of them. I am on the very high end of Reneau admirers around here, love him, but if he goes from where he is now to draftable in the next 6 months, that would amazing and bode incredibly well for the season. And Ware’s in the exact state he was 12 months ago and he melted down. I like his chances for success much better here, but he’s gotta do it. Regardless, I completely get why Queen would want to watch it play out rather than just jumping in. 

[Josh]

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

Yup; unless you were absolutely sure and wanted to get it over with.

[HoosierFan1994]

19 minutes ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

Agree. 2/5 of our starting lineup is here for those two exact reasons. It's not great for IU but honestly he is torn. If I was Maryland I would be worried. Guess my only thing with Maryland is they have Reese probably coming back next year. Here at IU it is anticipated we lose Ware so he would take over the 5 spot. Totally understand why he wants to see the season play out. Kansas makes zero sense IMO. Houston worries me but it sounds like they are a distant third. I'll give credit to Rabby. He's had a very good pulse on this recruitment. 

[JSHoosier]

If Willard was surprised to not get him when the signing period started then there's no way he likes hearing that news.

He's just not certain. This at least gives IU a chance to show how much the team gels and how well Ware and Reneau do under Woodson and staff.

[bird4par]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

See MM last year. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

I know a lot of fans don't like it, but if I was a top player who could go anywhere, I absolutely wouldn't pick until the late signing period.  I'd want to know roster construction  and coaching staffs.  So much of that changes/becomes more clear late in the year

Made sense before transfer portal, but now with the spring recruits they are competing with the entire transfer portal.  The power is diminished. 
If you trust the staff you are going to they don’t recruit over you in the TP so lock up that spot while your in demand. 
 

‘24 recruitng has turned out the be exactly like ‘23 recruting. Spring recruiting, here we come. 

[IUHoosier5]

Rob Cassidy said it’s “probably” not great news for Maryland. If Ware and Reneau can show further development, I think it has to be IU. To me, all signs indicate this is Queen’s thought process. 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Agreed. There hasn't been this much sweating at Maryland since Gary Williams. 

Well, Maryland thought they had Hunter Dickinson in the bag last offseason.  They ended up not even being close and a distant third.

[RaceToTheTop]

9 minutes ago, IUHoosier5 said:

Rob Cassidy said it’s “probably” not great news for Maryland. If Ware and Reneau can show further development, I think it has to be IU. To me, all signs indicate this is Queen’s thought process. 

It's horrible news for Maryland.  For IU, it's a little better but IMO still not great.  IU likely swayed him enough to reconsider Maryland.  But there will be other suitors in the spring who might have roster spots/minutes available now that they don't project now.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

10 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

That isn't the worst outcome since Woodson & co have shown they have the ability to bring in some very talented players in the spring....but the volume for next year is a little more concerning. This year was 2 transfers and a late signer. Next year will likely need twice that, since bringing in 6, 7 or even 8 new players (including McNeely) might be required. 

I agree actually.  It’s just not what the staff stated publicly they were trying to do and the composition of the roster. They wanted 3-4 recruits and likely 2-3 TP.  But yeah, if our NiL is what we think it is we should be a desirable destination spot. But the volume might be crazy. 

[JSHoosier]

30 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

It's horrible news for Maryland.  For IU, it's a little better but IMO still not great.  IU likely swayed him enough to reconsider Maryland.  But there will be other suitors in the spring who might have roster spots/minutes available now that they don't project now.

This is where I am.  He's not sold on IU, at least not yet, or he'd commit. It gives us time to impress and close the deal but that time could allow other programs to jump in. Maybe IU does gel or craps the bed, maybe against tougher competition Ware does look NBA bound and Reneau doesn't look as improved. This gives IU time but a lot can go wrong too.

[Alford Bailey]

Whatever. He won’t be the big cheese in the spring. Never know what the portal will offer.

[go iu bb]

5 hours ago, Demo said:

No idea if it’s good for IU or not, but there’s no way it’s good for Maryland. 

What certainly won't hurt is being reminded of IU every day just by seeing McNeeley every day.