CBB: Roy Williams Retires from UNC

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I'm just like everyone else here.  Talked to a diehard Fan today.  He says what you all say.  Miller, Davis, Stackhouse.  He didn't mention Stevens.  

[IUFLA]

19 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'm just like everyone else here.  Talked to a diehard Fan today.  He says what you all say.  Miller, Davis, Stackhouse.  He didn't mention Stevens.  

If Stevens did take the UNC job, to IU fans he'd go from Brad ******* Stevens to ******* Brad Stevens 

[IUBBx5Banners]

22 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Too late already has for this IU fan! He did what he thought was best for him and his family and I think he's a **** because of it.

I would be even more shocked for Stevens to take the UNC job then IU. At IU he'd be coming home, have a long leash and be the savior. UNC he'd be expected to win day 1 and better be high level by year 3. Can't burn talent year after year like Dean Smith did. Sheesh, that guy did less with more than anyone. Total dork. 

 

Lol calling him names because he chose a career path that didn’t benefit your fan interests. Cmon.

Yeah it’s disappointing he didn’t come, but that’s not a reflection of his character  

[Hoosierfan222]

For the record, don't know if this has been brought up, but a guy on the IU Rivals site said on Tuesday he heard Roy Williams was retiring Thursday and Hubert Davis will be named the next head coach on Saturday...

Part one happened, curious if he'll be correct on both fronts.

[Hoosierfan1901]

Anyone think Hubert Davis will be successful? If he is hired

[FrenchConnection]

1 minute ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Anyone think Hubert Davis will be successful? If he is hired

Maybe, but he has no HC experience at any level. They should go with Stackhouse. 

[DChoosier]

5 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Anyone think Hubert Davis will be successful? If he is hired

I have no idea but know the odds of the first coach to follow a “legend” doing well aren’t great.

its always hard to tell if a coach will work out. Many thought Archie was a home run hire while many laughed at UCLA when they had to dip to their 89th choice, Cronin. Who knows?

[IU Scott]

25 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Maybe, but he has no HC experience at any level. They should go with Stackhouse. 

If they want a former UNC guy who has the most experience it would be Wes Miller

[OliviaPope40]

3 hours ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

They should hire Stackhouse

I saw his name too

[Alford Bailey]

45 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Anyone think Hubert Davis will be successful? If he is hired

Dunno but I bet he gets a shot.

[Alford Bailey]

Its really hard for a program to not hire a long time assistant especially a former player. Gotta think Davis gets the nod over Miller or Stackhouse.

[8bucks]

I really like Hubert as a player and if he gets the job I wish him well. It would also show that UNC is not in bad shape just because they hire someone with no HC experience. It is a completely reasonable approach if you have a guy groomed in your system and not unreasonable if they have tutored in another legendary program. 

[Zachetology]

I don't understand how schools can put so much emphasis on a coach's alma mater over his performance. UNC should be making those calls to Drew/Oats/Musselman before Wes Miller, who hasn't won a tournament game in 10 years. Archie was a stronger candidate when IU hired him than Wes is now. I'd like to see if a blue blood school can run a coaching search correctly.

[str8baller]

4 hours ago, DChoosier said:

Not disagreeing but I consider Bob Knight to Pat Knight the ultimate poster boy. Retire in the middle of the season and push your son into the job. That was a disaster.

Absolutely. Bo did the same for Gard, who isn’t nearly the same coach but has been a nice recruiting success. Eddie Sutton did it for Sean Sutton. 
 

Lots of guys do it if they can. Credit to ol’ Roy for not doing it to UNC. 

[IUBBx5Banners]

8 minutes ago, Zachetology said:

I don't understand how schools can put so much emphasis on a coach's alma mater over his performance. UNC should be making those calls to Drew/Oats/Musselman before Wes Miller, who hasn't won a tournament game in 10 years. Archie was a stronger candidate when IU hired him than Wes is now. I'd like to see if a blue blood school can run a coaching search correctly.

When I saw Miller's name floated earlier this month, I read up on him and came away incredibly impressed. There are a few things that stuck with me that I think are important to consider when looking at Miller as a candidate:

1. Wes Miller took over the UNCG program when he was 27 years old. Regardless of program quality, this is an impressive accomplishment. 

2. UNCG has never won a single tourney game in their program's existence. They've been to the tourney 4 times total. 

3. Fran McCaffrey coached there for 6 seasons, during which he was able to post one 20-win season. Miller has posted 5 straight with a 74% win percentage. 

His age and trajectory are really attractive IMO. There are smarter people than I who can discuss how good he is at in-game coaching but by all accounts he is a rock star. 

[RaceToTheTop]

Forget Stackhouse, if they want a former NBA guy and alum for UNC, they should hire Vince Carter.  They might not, though, because he's older than Woodson.

[Banksyrules]

UNC is hiring someone with UNC ties because they have a “system” and want people who will follow the “system” to win. 

[IU Scott]

2 hours ago, Zachetology said:

I don't understand how schools can put so much emphasis on a coach's alma mater over his performance. UNC should be making those calls to Drew/Oats/Musselman before Wes Miller, who hasn't won a tournament game in 10 years. Archie was a stronger candidate when IU hired him than Wes is now. I'd like to see if a blue blood school can run a coaching search correctly.

Seriously though what has Oats and Musselman really done to warrant all of these jobs.  Also I think to many people don't realize the importance of culture and knowing the University they will be coaching at.

[FrenchConnection]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Seriously though what has Oats and Musselman really done to warrant all of these jobs.  Also I think to many people don't realize the importance of culture and knowing the University they will be coaching at.

I’m with you on Muss, but Oats is a rising star in the game. I think Alabama will be his last college job. Not because he’ll stay there 30 years, but because his analytics approach will lure some NBA GM. I’m thinking his future is with the Houston Rockets.

[Zachetology]

4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Seriously though what has Oats and Musselman really done to warrant all of these jobs.  Also I think to many people don't realize the importance of culture and knowing the University they will be coaching at.

Oats has won three conference regular season championships, four conference tournament championships, and four NCAA tournament games at the powerhouses of Buffalo and Alabama in six years. Musselman has only had one season of double-digit losses at each school. EM also won two conference regular season championships, three conference tournament championships, and five NCAA tournament games in six years. The coach is the culture.