Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said: I just don't get why we fired Archie so quickly with that buyout if we didn't have a bird in the hand. Why not hang on to him a little longer to make sure you have a solid upgrade? Because it was clear that Archie wasn’t the right guy. Places fire people all the time without having the replacement lined up. Dolson got one person to give him $10 million to fire Archie. I don’t think that happens if Dolson has no plan. He told us at the press conference that that would be the last we hear from him until he’s announcing the next coach. We need to give him time. Honestly, it’s better that we aren’t hearing anything right now. A coach isn’t going to leave his school in the middle of the NCAA tournament. If we were hearing things now it would suggest our next coach isn’t still coaching a team this season. AZ Hoosier and go iu bb 2
JJacks Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, go iu bb said: Yes, the Celtics would have to announce a change to his contract. They wouldn't have to disclose the terms, though. I wasn't aware of that. Teams usually do, but I wasn't aware of a rule from the NBA that required that. Public sector jobs sure, but private sector it's really no one business but the parties involved. T White 1
AZ Hoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said: I just don't get why we fired Archie so quickly with that buyout if we didn't have a bird in the hand. Why not hang on to him a little longer to make sure you have a solid upgrade? Because Archie sucked... mediocre at best in the B1G... why give him false hope and delay the inevitable. Dolson will get a quality coach... he's already shown the fanbase how serious he is about fixing IUMBB. Whoozhers and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 2
HoosierHoopster Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, go iu bb said: It's still the round of 64. Most of the good coaches are busy with that. I just don't get all the hand wringing at this point. Right, very well could be a coach currently in the tourney. If so there won’t be any leaks it’ll just have to play out. And hey the longer it goes and some of the coaches we think are possibles are still in the tourney the better MemphisHoosier and go iu bb 2
IUwins0708 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said: I just don't get why we fired Archie so quickly with that buyout if we didn't have a bird in the hand. Why not hang on to him a little longer to make sure you have a solid upgrade? They thought they had their bird in the hand, it just couldn’t fly Chris007, mamasa and MemphisHoosier 3
Kentuckysucks Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: They thought they had their bird in the hand, it just couldn’t fly That's the problem. MikeRoberts and cappymo14 2
ap2345 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Kentuckysucks said: That's the problem. Correct but Archie was a bad coach and had to go regardless. cleeter, lillurk, MemphisHoosier and 4 others 6 1
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Banksyrules said: In regular human world yes billionaire world not sure. Case in point— I’m waiting to see how the Deshaun Watson case turns out in Texas. The lead lawyer against Watson is a neighbor to the houstan Texans . U wouldn’t believe the level of pettiness I encounter on a daily basis. Again I don’t take chances, I finish the job and keep it straight . Of course I can retire now but again I don’t take chances. Billionaires aren’t going to be “petty” to Brad Stevens because Brad didn’t do anything for them to be petty to him about. IU has three billionaire donors. Cuban is one of them. Cuban isn’t going to refuse to hire Brad in the future and instead hire an inferior coach because Brad turned down a job at the school Cuban graduated from 40 years ago. You think Cuban is going to hold a grudge against Brad for not taking a clear demotion? Because that’s what it would be. Going from head coach of the Boston Celtics to head coach of Indiana basketball is a massive downgrade, no matter how much we don’t want to think so. T White, Bowhunter and BGleas 3
HoosierHoopster Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: They thought they had their bird in the hand, it just couldn’t fly That’s what she said Mohepa 1
CyberHoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 I don't know anything important but I have a feeling it isn't over yet. There's not much difference in him denying the job yesterday than the earlier presser. Can't really imagine Dolson's chase for Stevens is over with completely Chris007 and HinnyHoosier 2
AZ Hoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said: That's the problem. You miss on 100% of the shots you don't take. If outcome was guaranteed, anyone could do it. IUwins0708 and lillurk 1 1
Banksyrules Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said: Billionaires aren’t going to be “petty” to Brad Stevens because Brad didn’t do anything for them to be petty to him about. IU has three billionaire donors. Cuban is one of them. Cuban isn’t going to refuse to hire Brad in the future and instead hire an inferior coach because Brad turned down a job at the school Cuban graduated from 40 years ago. You think Cuban is going to hold a grudge against Brad for not taking a clear demotion? Because that’s what it would be. Going from head coach of the Boston Celtics to head coach of Indiana basketball is a massive downgrade, no matter how much we don’t want to think so. IF and only if he came in and walked out in good faith. This is why I’m worried for our AD also. If he approached these people in bad faith, I wouldn’t want to be him. In many ways I think I’m the younger version of Dolson, because I get the impression that he has hung around these billionaires for a bit to get them on board for that buyout. You might think Mark Cuban is some magnanimous person , but in his private life he might be entirely different.
Popular Post IUwins0708 Posted March 20, 2021 Popular Post Posted March 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said: That's the problem. You fire Archie Miller 10 out of 10 times if you just have a 1% chance at Brad Stevens. Now if Archie was successful that’s a different story, but it was literally the worst 4 year stretch in IU basketball history. HinnyHoosier, Parakeet Jones, TadQueasy and 15 others 16 2
SteelerHoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Plot twist: 007 and 0708 were asked to be part of the denial aspect of this I'm not being serious lol thebigweave, ButlerHoosierChef, kottke and 3 others 3 3
Kentuckysucks Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Billionaires aren’t going to be “petty” to Brad Stevens because Brad didn’t do anything for them to be petty to him about. IU has three billionaire donors. Cuban is one of them. Cuban isn’t going to refuse to hire Brad in the future and instead hire an inferior coach because Brad turned down a job at the school Cuban graduated from 40 years ago. You think Cuban is going to hold a grudge against Brad for not taking a clear demotion? Because that’s what it would be. Going from head coach of the Boston Celtics to head coach of Indiana basketball is a massive downgrade, no matter how much we don’t want to think so. People always say college is a downgrade to the NBA but I disagree. Of course almost all of the best basketball players in the world play in the NBA. But coaches? Tyrone Lue won an NBA title. Quinn Snyder was an epic failure as the Mizzou coach but is now considered one of the best coaches in the league. Guys like Woodson, Zeke, Smart, Whitman, Frank, etc probably couldn't even get an interview from IU. You don't think guys like Coach K, Pitino, Roy, Bennett, Beilein, Wright, etc would coach circles around most NBA head coaches? cchuntsman 1
Popular Post IUwins0708 Posted March 20, 2021 Popular Post Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, SteelerHoosier said: Plot twist: 007 and 0708 were asked to be part of the denial aspect of this I'm not being serious lol Maybe you are correct....... im not serious either kottke, BornAHoosierFan, ButlerHoosierChef and 6 others 5 4
IUwins0708 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, Kentuckysucks said: People always say college is a downgrade to the NBA but I disagree. Of course almost all of the best basketball players in the world play in the NBA. But coaches? Tyrone Lue won an NBA title. Quinn Snyder was an epic failure as the Mizzou coach but is now considered one of the best coaches in the league. Guys like Woodson, Zeke, Smart, Whitman, Frank, etc probably couldn't even get an interview from IU. You don't think guys like Coach K, Pitino, Roy, Bennett, Beilein, Wright, etc would coach circles around most NBA head coaches? It’s not apples to apples Hippopotamo and lillurk 2
SteelerHoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, IUwins0708 said: Maybe you are correct....... im not serious either Not to poke or impose, but you gave a heads up for a heavy denial. Then that denial took place and your mood change. Was the nature of the denial just much different than you were told would happen? You don't have to answer. HinnyHoosier and thebigweave 2
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Banksyrules said: IF and only if he came in and walked out in good faith. This is why I’m worried for our AD also. If he approached these people in bad faith, I wouldn’t want to be him. In many ways I think I’m the younger version of Dolson, because I get the impression that he has hung around these billionaires for a bit to get them on board for that buyout. You might think Mark Cuban is some magnanimous person , but in his private life he might be entirely different. When you’re one of the best in the world at your profession; you worry a lot less about petty grievances. If at some hypothetical date Brad gets fired by Boston and Cuban refuses to hire him because of a grudge, there are 28 other nba franchises. There certainly aren’t 28 coaches better than him in the NBA. We have zero information to suggest that Brad acted in bad faith. People believe he used us for a raise despite no raise being reported. Getting rejected sucks. It’s easier to make up reasons for getting rejected than it is to look in the mirror and admit that they just weren’t interested. But that’s exactly what happened here. Brad didn’t want to be the IU men’s basketball coach. Who cares. Someone out there will want the job. Someone out there is ready to give the job everything he has. Let’s go find that guy. BGleas, Class of '66 Old Fart, AZ Hoosier and 1 other 4
ap2345 Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Maybe you are correct....... im not serious either Maybe you already answered this but how did things go from you saying be ready for more denials to within minutes Brad denies interest and then it’s over. I know it cam from your source but that part confused me a bit.
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