General Coach Candidate News

[go iu bb]

6 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Also, I don’t know how many people ever have had a job where you’re literally “on” 24/7/365. It’s exhausting. And that’s what I imagine recruiting in the old system was like. Literally at the mercy of 16 and 17 year old kids all year long. 
 

NBA presents its own challenges, but being able to recharge your batteries by taking several stress free months off in the summer is worth it’s weight in gold. Also you’re just coaching. No other BS.  
 

If college can become like the pros in terms of schedule and responsibilities with similar salaries, you’ll definitely see a renewed interest in the job. 

I'm all for it as long as they don't think they can take the Woodson route.

During the season, it's a lot of hours so no losing a game then hanging with your buddies drinking wine and smoking cigars.

HS recruiting is still important so the HC needs to put some effort in there whether it's talking/texting recruits or going to watch them play. I don't want it to be a team made up almost completely of transfer portal players that gets turned over every year. As you pointed out, having someone that can do a lot of the scouting and watching during the summer could make a huge difference. The HC does need to still be somewhat involved, maybe not as much as is required now.

[Hoosierfan1901]

28 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

https://x.com/Bball_War3/status/1897760665374519518?t=4PvYa4JF2QPaVv9zjhUalQ&s=19

To follow up

https://x.com/bball_war3/status/1897762220496609506?s=46&t=0mbJ_TT4MQ8KZKv29ZqhSg

[Henryville Hoosier]

5 minutes ago, FartsMcGee said:

Somebody give me the juice!

 

[Pagoda]

22 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

It looks good on paper and, in theory, should be true. 

IU has made so many bad hires for so long. It is hard to believe that they will make a good hire for the bball program until a good coach is actually introduced. 

I know everyone claims that Dolson has a plan and is working it, and that QB is responsible for Woodson, but Scott IS the guy who actually hired him. And gave him a 4th year. 

I'm obviously saying the quiet part out loud. Back to the optimism. 

Let's get Brad F*cking Stevens...

My view is Scott had nothing to do with the Woody hire/4th year and when left alone he went out and made a very nice football hire.  I’m not arguing though, at this point it’s water under the bridge and agree to disagree is fine by me.

After the last 25 years of IUBB I can’t help but be nervous too.  But I keep going back to the fact this job profile is different in the NIL era and we seem to have a competent AD who is being substantially left alone to run this process.  That is really all I can hope for and it greatly improves our chances vs the last five (ouch, what a big number) hires.  

[IUHoosierJoe]

12 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

South Harmon Institute of Technology

Woodson at next year’s Midnight Madness: “South Harmony Institute of Technology is the ****.”

[RaceToTheTop]

23 minutes ago, hper50 said:

Totally. Was just curious if anyone knew if they graduated a ton of guys, had some injuries, etc.

Sports reference said they only returned 37% of their minutes played.

They also went from December 5th until January 7th without playing a game.  Wonder if there was some COVID issues.

[Kentuckysucks]

1 minute ago, Pagoda said:

My view is Scott had nothing to do with the Woody hire/4th year and when left alone he went out and made a very nice football hire.  I’m not arguing though, at this point it’s water under the bridge and agree to disagree is fine.

After the last 25 years of IUBB I can’t help but be nervous too.  But I keep going back to the fact this job profile is different in the NIL era and we seem to have a competent AD who is being substantially left alone to run this process.  That is really all I can hope for and it greatly improves our chances vs the last five hires.  

Yes.  Everyone should be nervous but also optimistic.

[RaceToTheTop]

At least we've moved on to a higher caliber of rumor.

[Silat Player]

13 minutes ago, jefftheref said:

Sleepy Hollow Community or Moron University

I was thinking Oliver Winery

[Demo]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

To follow up

https://x.com/bball_war3/status/1897762220496609506?s=46&t=0mbJ_TT4MQ8KZKv29ZqhSg

Will remain a complete skeptic on Stevens but will say this: if IU is/was unable to get it done with him, nobody’s getting it done with him. He’s not gonna end up at KU or UNC down the road. If the dude ever coaches CBB again it will be this job this time.

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

At least we've moved on to a higher caliber of rumor.

I knew I wasn’t crazy :-)

[BradStevens]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

At least we've moved on to a higher caliber of rumor.

It's definitely a competitive search. My fellas DMV and Motley told me I am competing with some real heavyweights. Not just Turgeon and Anthony Grant, but guys like Mike Boynton and Travis Ford.

However it plays out, IU is definitely going to get quite the coach!

[Hoosierfanyuh]

42 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

https://x.com/Bball_War3/status/1897760665374519518?t=4PvYa4JF2QPaVv9zjhUalQ&s=19

Interesting thread 

[steubenhoosier]

5 hours ago, AH1971 said:

There's written language in his contract that states bonuses for accomplishments and results in the PAC 12, a now defunct conference lol. So what, he's now no longer entitles to any bonuses because he's not coaching in the PAC 12? Cronin has absolutely every grounds to renegotiate his contract. And if UCLA doesn't want too....he has more than a leg to stand on and challenge it in court. 

Having gone through several mergers, it’s been my experience that whatever was stated in the original contract will be honored by the acquiring firm. I would imagine that these bonus opportunities would be honored if he achieved the same benchmarks in the B1G

[BehindTheBench]

14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

To follow up

https://x.com/bball_war3/status/1897762220496609506?s=46&t=0mbJ_TT4MQ8KZKv29ZqhSg

I think some guy (or I guess it could be gal) owes me venmo or something. Forget who that was, talk about a weird night and interaction, but my venmo is open and accepting dolla dolla (in my best Boston accent) bills yall!

[Uspshoosier]

4 minutes ago, Demo said:

If the dude ever coaches CBB again it will be this job this time.

Or back to Butler years down the road 

[go iu bb]

19 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

My view is Scott had nothing to do with the Woody hire/4th year and when left alone he went out and made a very nice football hire.  I’m not arguing though, at this point it’s water under the bridge and agree to disagree is fine for me.

After the last 25 years of IUBB I can’t help but be nervous too.  But I keep going back to the fact this job profile is different in the NIL era and we seem to have a competent AD who is being substantially left alone to run this process.  That is really all I can hope for and it greatly improves our chances vs the last five hires.  

I'm trying to give Dolson the benefit of the doubt after the Cignetti hire but I can understand people looking at his history and seeing possible red flags. I'm hoping for the best but also wouldn't be at all surprised by a dud hire. There is only 1 name mentioned that I would be shocked to find out is IU's next coach and it's not the guys like Brownell or Collins who are pretty meh.

He was the AD when Woodson was hired and also gave him the raise. That's true. It looks like his hand was forced and I hope that's true because, if not, then I'd give up hope on this search.

It was rumored he wanted to hire Pat Fitzgerald but got turned down by Whitten. That wouldn't have been an inspiring hire, so if this is true that would be a red flag. We ended up with Cignetti which looks great for Dolson and the search firm, which is the same as used for this hire. It's unclear if he was a name Dolson already had on his list or if the search firm recommended him, but we ended up with him so the process worked either way. Overall, since we ended up with Cignetti there is reason for optimism. It's clear that the criteria of what to look for was solid.

I will say that a lot of the names that are being thrown around I'd be very happy with. Stevens, Drew, Otzelberger at the top of the list but I'd be ok with someone like Cronin or McDermott.

So I'm trying to be optimistic but I can totally understand how others are more skeptical.

[OGIUAndy]

6 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I'm trying to give Dolson the benefit of the doubt after the Cignetti hire but I can understand people looking at his history and seeing possible red flags. I'm hoping for the best but also wouldn't be at all surprised by a dud hire. There is only 1 name mentioned that I would be shocked to find out is IU's next coach and it's not the guys like Brownell or Collins who are pretty meh.

He was the AD when Woodson was hired and also gave him the raise. That's true. It looks like his hand was forced and I hope that's true because, if not, then I'd give up hope on this search.

It was rumored he wanted to hire Pat Fitzgerald but got turned down by Whitten. That wouldn't have been an inspiring hire, so if this is true that would be a red flag. We ended up with Cignetti which looks great for Dolson and the search firm, which is the same as used for that hire. It's unclear if he was a name Dolson already had on his list or if the search firm recommended him, but we ended up with him so the process worked either way. Overall, since we ended up with Cignetti there is reason for optimism. 

I will say that a lot of the names that are being thrown around I'd be very happy with. Stevens, Drew, Otzelberger at the top of the list but I'd be ok with someone like Cronin or McDermott.

So I'm trying to be optimistic but I can totally understand how others are more skeptical.

Does this rumor have any real legs? Also "looked into" (ie a possible candidate) and "wanted to hire" is much different. I doubt that it would have gotten so far as to "I want to hire this guy" and Whitten said  "no". What he did and the ongoing litigation would have seemingly removed his name from the candidate pool pretty quickly. He's still out there not coaching. So I doubt that a P5 program wanted to hire him but now he can't get a job anywhere? 

[Hoosierfanyuh]

With all the chatter with several names I would almost be surprised if we didn’t hear anything after the BTT regardless if we make the tourney or not. Or is that totally off base?

[kottke]

46 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Guys; "FartsMcGee" needs juice. 

No telling what he could do if no juice is provided. Someone please give him some mother****ing juice!

Except for prune juice! Don’t give him the motherf****ing prune juice!