General Coach Candidate News

[Pagoda 1,781]

5 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

This reminded me of that Butler coach so many IU fans wish we had hired.  The best window to hire him was before Crean was hired in 2008.  Stevens became Bulter's coach in 2007 and finished his first year with an incredible 30-4 record including a win over RMK and TT.  I remember that search well and never remember hearing his name mentioned as a candidate.  We needed more proof, which is reasonable, except when you have a "good" coach as Crean was who has up and down years the timing for replacing him with Stevens (after we got more proof) is dependent on down year timing.  

I am not suggesting McCollum is the next Stevens at all.  I would swing away at the real Stevens, Few, TJ, Oats and May but if you miss on those guys then in the next tier, I am definitely talking to him along with some others.  If I talked with him I would need to him to convince me he has the basketball acumen to win, the personality to interact with players, alum and boosters and the drive/grind to succeed.  Those things you cannot see from a coach during a game but are crucial to success at this level.  Why someone thought Archie had those is beyond me. 

It's hard to figure out which coach will blow up and be awesome, and it can be risky, but that's what a great AD can do...

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48 minutes ago, GP711 said:

fwiw, any Beard smoke that is there is coming from the agent side because beard wants the job. It's a hard no from the athletic department side, he was passed on before het got arrested. 

Correct.  For all claiming you have to get this hire right, taking a chance on a purported alcoholic with domestic violence in his background is a serious roll of the dice.  And one the administration just won’t take.

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8 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

lol!!!

Woah.  I forgot about Hector Salamanca being in that movie!  

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18 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

If you were truly dedicated you would show up at their house with a suitcase, with clothing to last up to 30 days, and get some info.

Real photo of Chris working to get us an update...

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20 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Hell with it, give us Buzz and let’s roll…

He would probably be in my top 5…. He earned a lot of respect from me for 1. Wearing the Mizzou cancer shirt at the Mizzou game and 2. After his post game press conference he gave advice to Mizzou journalism students.

[Artie86 2,516]

43 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

There's other issues there besides the arrest

.....Coach Buttermaker! ;)

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2 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

It's hard to figure out which coach will blow up and be awesome, and it can be risky, but that's what a great AD can do...

An analogy, IMO...

Picking out a great coach from the lower ranks is a lot like betting on a penny stock.

For the situation IU is in, we're looking for a blue chip guy to come in and pay dividends right away.

There could be higher upside to buying in early, but we need stability and good yield right away.

...In a different cycle I'd love taking a flyer on McCollum. Don't think it's in the cards this time around though.

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2 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

He would probably be in my top 5…. He earned a lot of respect from me for 1. Wearing the Mizzou cancer shirt at the Mizzou game and 2. After his post game press conference he gave advice to Mizzou journalism students.

he's got a lot of good stuff.... the "Country Roads" was great, done a couple of cool things with his teams honoring veterans. 

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Every coach comes with risks, even Brad Stevens. Beard’s risks are entirely off the court. There’s no question he’d come here and win a lot of games. Just depends on which risks you’re willing to take, I suppose. 

[Chris007 50,570]

7 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

Giving a yourself a cavity to try to pry information from Dusty May's cousin's wife while she was jamming tools in your mouth is dedication.

 

Kudos.

That is how we roll here on BTB. Have you done anything to make IUBB better today?

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Just now, Chris007 said:

That is how we roll here on BTB. Have you done anything to make IUBB better today?

It's still early in the day to find a way to help!

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,328]

I sincerely hope its not Cronin.  I do want a winning coach but I hope we can find one that is not a complete curmudgeon.

[Scotty R 2,673]

I know there won't be a candidate that all the fans will endorse as our next coach.  I just hope this fan base can unite and get behind whoever is chosen as our next HC because that will make it easier for that coach to succeed.

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I sincerely hope its not Cronin.  I do want a winning coach but I hope we can find one that is not a complete curmudgeon.

It may just be the Jersey in me, but I kinda love a guy who walks around p!ssed off all day for no apparent reason... 

As they say, better to be p!ssed off than p!ssed on...

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6 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I prefer these weeks compared to the weeks of "start of the season until now", personally. 

Listening to posters whine every time there is a subject being discussed they don't like is more annoying than repeated information, though. 

I’m not bothering with the discussion on his past, but I will pose a question. 
 

Let’s assume you are willing to ignore all the issues with Beard, or just call them fake news and hand wave them— after nearly 10 years of futility do you really believe that IU can take the risk of something happening and torpedoing the hire? When something with this candidate has already happened and torpedoed a job for him elsewhere?

The next hire at IU is going to be the highest stress position in CBB. Period. There will not be a coach in the country under more pressure to win and keep winning. Can we take the chance on him imploding when there are lots of other good options? 
 

Look, if Beard wasn’t laden with baggage that Dolson wouldn’t get through the first presser without getting asked about, he’d be the obvious choice. Unfortunately that is not the case.

 

The “whining” isn’t anymore annoying than people stumping for a guy who is never getting considered because of what he did to lose his last high profile job. 

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12 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Most people drink.  His being excessive is not actually known.  To me, if he’s a drunk, it would be hard to coach and run a solid D1 program like he does

Howdy! 

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I think we also need to consider how revenue sharing plays into all of this. If they pay Stevens 9-10 million a year that will really cut into revenue payouts for players. Of course, there will still be NIL separately - but something to definitely consider.

 

Count me in for Beard.

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37 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

what issues does UNC have that we have? firing a former player? 

Aversion to domestic violence

Prefer the Men's HC not be glassy eyed at the Blubird.

 

A very good to great basketball coach that can't get a sniff at any storied or even good basketball program. Funny how all these administrations just let him slip through the cracks.

Hmmmmm, that doesn't seem to make much sense.

When you hear hoof beats don't think zebras.

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Just now, Home Jersey said:

It may just be the Jersey in me, but I kinda love a guy who walks around p!ssed off all day for no apparent reason... 

I want a coach who will hold players accountable and Cronin does that

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1 hour ago, GP711 said:

fwiw, any Beard smoke that is there is coming from the agent side because beard wants the job. It's a hard no from the athletic department side, he was passed on before het got arrested. 

You seem to be dealing in absolutes. So I'm going to need to clarify if you're a sith or if you have some serious connections within the program so I know whether to mentally lightsaber your head off