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[ziggyiu 655]

Cronin would be the most mid thing IU could do.

He has been fine at UCLA, a place with so many resources. He had a fluke Final Four appearance from a First Four position. 

I'd rather see IU take a chance on someone whose had success at a school with fewer basketball resources. 

Cronin has already shown what he can do at an upper-echelone school, and I want more than that for IU.

His antics on the court are comically juvenile. His offenses are mostly pedestrian--and sometimes brutal to watch. 

At their best his teams do play great defense, which is fun to watch. 

I'm not saying he is terrible, but I am saying he is what he is at this point, and ultimately while certainly an improvement from what we've had, he is not the person to get us where we want to be. 

 

[Trish 12,215]

Is Brad our coach yet? 

[go iu bb 7,172]

31 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I think the Trilly piece is really interesting here, and probably confirms that there is one target right now and until that target says no, the search doesn’t shift. Part of me also wonders about the stuff Thamel said on Saturday. He made it pretty clear there was and would be a lot of interest in our job with the proven NIL. How hilarious would it be if Woody getting 5 million in roster money to fail got us a huge name lol

This is what a few of us have been saying for a while now. IU is willing to  pay its coaches (both Miller and Woodson had top 10 salaries at one point in their time at IU) along with being in the B1G (easier to get to the tournament), profit sharing, and NIL would make the job desirable. Even with the poor results the  last 8 years, IU has landed talent. The fan expectations are way down so that negative is overblown. As Miller and Woodson have shown, coaches get at least 4 years.

[IU Prof 1,191]

Is Cronin a good coach? Absolutely. Would he be an upgrade over the last 8 years? Almost assuredly. Would he hang a banner here? I'd put the odds at comfortably under 50%. Which probably isn't good enough unless we strike out on 5 or 6 other guys.

[OKHOOSIER 3,964]

5 minutes ago, ziggyiu said:

Cronin would be the most mid thing IU could do.

He has been fine at UCLA, a place with so many resources. He had a fluke Final Four appearance from a First Four position. 

I'd rather see IU take a chance on someone whose had success at a school with fewer basketball resources. 

Cronin has already shown what he can do at an upper-echelone school, and I want more than that for IU.

His antics on the court are comically juvenile. His offenses are mostly pedestrian--and sometimes brutal to watch. 

At their best his teams do play great defense, which is fun to watch. 

I'm not saying he is terrible, but I am saying he is what he is at this point, and ultimately while certainly an improvement from what we've had, he is not the person to get us where we want to be. 

 

Preface with I am not stumping for Cronin, just pointing out some stuff. The guy has won 70% of his games at every stop. Like remarkable consistency, that no one we’ve hired since RMK has had. Also people think UCLA has resources? That school is in the red and has notoriously bad NIL. 
 

Again, I don’t really want him, but IU could do much worse than Cronin. 

[tyappleg 3,872]

13 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Very funny that Stevens doesn’t check a couple of the boxes from Thamel’s list: not a sitting head coach, and no P4 success, technically.

Recall that Thamel was early with the Thursday report on Woodson’s future so has some credibility here.

I assume even Thamel would say that obviously Stevens exceeds those given his circumstances. Still, funny that one of the guys everyone agrees would be an immediate unanimous A+ doesn’t meet some of the checkboxes.

I don’t think it’s a smokescreen; anyone else on the list probably does meet those aside from like Few (not P4) or Wright (off the board I’d assume, but not sitting coach).

Thamel does seem to be IU's go to national guy (at least for football).  He was the first to break the Cignetti hire news, as well as the first with all the Rourke injury updates (Thumb and ACL)

[AKHoosier 7,187]

Cronin is a very good coach who would immediately be an upgrade to the last 8 years, but he doesn't really inject life and much-needed energy into the program.

I'm not sure how important that is, but it isn't nothing.

[Napleshoosier 10,557]

No Cronin!  We can’t FU that bad again.  Gezzz

[JSHoosier 21,010]

2 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Cronin is a very good coach who would immediately be an upgrade to the last 8 years, but he doesn't really inject life and much-needed energy into the program.

I'm not sure how important that is, but it isn't nothing.

The last 8 years is 2 coaches competing for tallest midget, the bar is pretty low.

[Stuhoo 83,710]

3 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

No Cronin!  We can’t FU that bad again.  Gezzz

I thought you’d be the first guy to endorse the hardasses that win!

Care to differentiate between Beard who you love and Cronin?

[OKHOOSIER 3,964]

2 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Thamel does seem to be IU's go to national guy (at least for football).  He was the first to break the Cignetti hire news, as well as the first with all the Rourke injury updates (Thumb and ACL)

He really on Saturday seemed like the only national guy looking around going “do you all really not think IU could not pull someone big?” He’s like the only person I saw acknowledge the top of the B1G budget, top ten national NIL, and how much of a sell those would be. 

[Napleshoosier 10,557]

The thought of Cronin makes me wanna puke!  Hard no!

[WRSMick55 77]

33 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

When I here Dusty May,  the name reminds me of some 70's female hippie folk singer or a stripper.

Dusty Springfield

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1 hour ago, Unexpectedflash said:

As someone living in Omaha I’m probably Greg McDermotts biggest fan on this board. Elite coaching job this year having them first in the big east after losing pop isaacs. Made it to at least the sweet 16 in 3 out of the last 4 years. They run some beautiful stuff. Creighton NIL is nothing special compared to the rest of big east but he knows how to build a team that fits. 

I think i prefer him over Cronin.  The only negatives are he did fail at Iowa State and he is 60 (which surprised me when I looked it up). 

I think we could see a higher ceiling with McDermott than Cronin, but possibly a lower (but not by much) floor. 

[IUHAHN81 2,558]

I can't help but feel like IU bball program is at a point where they need to hit a grand slam with this hire. I feel like they need it all this time around. Sexy name. Winner on and off the court etc. They need it ALL. This program needs a major injection of life into it!  A guy that wins at a decent clip but lacks other things just isn't gonna cut it. Scott, we need u to pull this one off buddy!!!

[Chris007 49,412]

33 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

By the way, y’all may not like Jeff Goodman, but he has sources at IU. He won’t come out and say much declarative, but he dropped Cronjn’s name early and hasn’t backed off.

I thought it was frowned upon to hire coaches from the same conference. 

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2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

He really on Saturday seemed like the only national guy looking around going “do you all really not think IU could not pull someone big?” He’s like the only person I saw acknowledge the top of the B1G budget, top ten national NIL, and how much of a sell those would be. 

It's a nice change from most national media guys.

"Haha Indiana fans are delusional if they think they can hire somebody big, anyways here's our coaching big board: Brad Stevens, Billy Donovan, and Chris Beard"

[reconmkd 4,613]

And on todays episode of As the World Turns, the rollercoaster of emotion continues as the IU fan base continues to react to the rumors, hints, and falsehoods of who maybe the next HC of their beloved basketball program. Stay tuned as the national pundits begin to inject their opinions on who would be a great replacement just like they did in the past 2 coaching searches even though they are out in left field and like to report on what they heard at the local B-dubs! And don't forget to tune in next week as the half retired, current coach tries to throw in another wrench to the fan bases' plans!

[LIHoosier 26,986]

7 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

He really on Saturday seemed like the only national guy looking around going “do you all really not think IU could not pull someone big?” He’s like the only person I saw acknowledge the top of the B1G budget, top ten national NIL, and how much of a sell those would be. 

How did someone so rational end up at ESPN? Someone's getting fired for that.

[Dave from Dayton 3,472]

4 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said:

I can't help but feel like IU bball program is at a point where they need to hit a grand slam with this hire. I feel like they need it all this time around. Sexy name. Winner on and off the court etc. They need it ALL. This program needs a major injection of life into it!  A guy that wins at a decent clip but lacks other things just isn't gonna cut it. Scott, we need u to pull this one off buddy!!!

IU has needed that since RMK.  Sampson sure can coach and would have been great provided however he could not stop doing things that were impermissible.  And IU's oversite was belated at best, non-existent at worst.  And then we self reported which most colleges do not do.  It was totally out of control.