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[Chris007 48,526]

12 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Holtmann should get a better job than Indiana St I would think. Was more than respectable at Butler still fared well at Ohio State for most his tenure…the bottom just fell out there at the end.

He’s got $12million coming his way so likely no rush to jump at the first bite. He seems like a good dude and one that would do well on TV for a year or two.

Yeah he could always go back to Butler in a couple of years after Matta is done. I remember being at Butler for a game when he was there and being told he didn't want to go to a big basketball school. He didn't want to be inside a fishbowl and that is why a football school like OSU was going to be a good fit, which it was for the first few years. 

[Chris007 48,526]

10 hours ago, Magisterium said:

-Dusty May

-Josh Schertz

-Joe Pasternack

-Kim English

-Drew Valentine

assuming all 5 are still in their current jobs a year from now (unlikely imo) that’s a realistic list

I would still add Shrews to that list but a good list. 

[JF87 1,711]

Is Richard Pitino a good coach?  I know that he struggled at Minnesota, but he seems to have New Mexico playing well.  Does his dad's issue slant how we perceive Richard? 

[AKHoosier 7,153]

7 minutes ago, JF87 said:

Is Richard Pitino a good coach?  I know that he struggled at Minnesota, but he seems to have New Mexico playing well.  Does his dad's issue slant how we perceive Richard? 

New Mexico has always had a pretty solid program with good fan support, so I think his success is more a product of that.

Kind of the same way Archie had success at Dayton. Just my opinion. 

[8bucks 6,605]

I have a chance to go watch Florida Atlantic on Sunday.  For those more familiar with them is there anything I should watch for?  They play at South Florida which has been having a pretty good year so it could be a competitive game. I was hoping to get behind the bench and wear my IU gear but those tickets are harder to get and pretty expensive unless someone wants to sponsor me lol

[Chris007 48,526]

2 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I have a chance to go watch Florida Atlantic on Sunday.  For those more familiar with them is there anything I should watch for?  They play at South Florida which has been having a pretty good year so it could be a competitive game. I was hoping to get behind the bench and wear my IU gear but those tickets are harder to get and pretty expensive unless someone wants to sponsor me lol

I have watched them several times on TV. I love how the ball moves on offense, they try to find space or create space, they are spread out and the lane is never clogged. They look like what a true 4 out 1 in should look like. Then picture that offense with more talent.

[Banksyrules 5,086]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I have watched them several times on TV. I love how the ball moves on offense, they try to find space or create space, they are spread out and the lane is never clogged. They look like what a true 4 out 1 in should look like. Then picture that offense with more talent.

I've been impressed that each player knows where to go. When a player drives it looks like he knows that someone will be at a specific spot if he can't drive in for a layup.  

[TheWatShot 14,464]

I'd be down with any offense that favors passing over dribbling. Seems like for the past decade plus, we've had guards that stand and dribble while pointing in various directions to give the impression that a play of some sort is attempting to be run. 

[HoosierHoopster 7,284]

3 hours ago, JF87 said:

Is Richard Pitino a good coach?  I know that he struggled at Minnesota, but he seems to have New Mexico playing well.  Does his dad's issue slant how we perceive Richard? 

Easy: No

[Magisterium 395]

On 2/15/2024 at 7:47 AM, Chris007 said:

I would still add Shrews to that list but a good list. 

I don’t know if it’s a “good” list but it’s a list of guys who imo could be realistic candidates. I don’t expect there would be a “splash hire” the next time around.

[SamIam 688]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I have watched them several times on TV. I love how the ball moves on offense, they try to find space or create space, they are spread out and the lane is never clogged. They look like what a true 4 out 1 in should look like. Then picture that offense with more talent.

I'll add to this, I've watched them a ton this year and last. Humblebrag but I had a Final Four future on them in January last year so they will always have a special place in my heart.

They never pass up an open 3 and the offense generates a buttload of open looks (7th in the nation in offensive shotquality). Dusty sometimes calls plays when they need a bucket but for the most part its "see space, attack space."

The calling card is versatility. Everyone playing needs to be able to effectively fill in 1-4. They have like 6 guards who are clones of each other. That's where I would focus,  they are all just dripping with Dusty's coaching.  He wants every guy to be able to defend 1 on 1, drive effectively, and hit open 3's. On offense, they initiate with whoever they think has the biggest mismatch, have him drive the guy himself or through a screen. He kicks, and they rinse and repeat attacking the scramble until they get an open three or layup. Johnell Davis is usually this guy because he usually has a slower 4 on him, but b/c they can all drive and shoot it doesn't matter who initiates the offense. On defense same thing. All rotation guards can defend 1-4, so they switch everything.  Hands are always ball level, they get a ton of deflections despite having very little length. Really pursue rebounds. They will alternate between sending doubles and playing straight up in the post throughout the game.  

It just makes them incredibly hard to guard or game plan for because if you take one guy away there are 3 more guards they can attack with. They lose when teams have enough length to take away those initial drives, and FAU gets stuck dribbling, then they get out of control and start throwing the ball into the stands on their kicks. Fun team to watch either way though. 

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I have watched them several times on TV. I love how the ball moves on offense, they try to find space or create space, they are spread out and the lane is never clogged. They look like what a true 4 out 1 in should look like. Then picture that offense with more talent.

It's unlikely we ever get to see it but Dusty's offense with a big guard like McNeeley is the absolute dream. Guard skills for offense, big enough to hold against 4's on defense. That's the vision for Dusty at the P5 level. 

[coonhounds 9,604]

I am not sold on dusty but if him or Woodson I will take him!

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[DChoosier 8,976]

On 2/15/2024 at 9:46 AM, Chris007 said:

Yeah he could always go back to Butler in a couple of years after Matta is done. I remember being at Butler for a game when he was there and being told he didn't want to go to a big basketball school. He didn't want to be inside a fishbowl and that is why a football school like OSU was going to be a good fit, which it was for the first few years. 

Yep.

I read an interview some guy did with Holtman at a restaurant in Broad Ripple, prior to him being hired at OSU, in which Holtman made it clear he did not have interest in fishbowls like IU.

[Feathery 4,005]

Someone may have mentioned this guy already but I’m going to bring him up. I was thinking what coaches have elevated programs and at the power 5 level. Maybe even taking them to levels they haven’t seen before. I don’t want a coach from the mid major level. It’s too risky. We need to get this right and someone with experience and success at the power 5 level is a mandatory imo. There are a few names that fit in this category and have been covered already like Pearl (63 years old), Drew (Indiana high school coaches don’t like so some say), Beard (wife beater).
 

One I haven’t seen and I just checked is only 49 years old, 50 this spring. Came up off a branch of the RMK tree under coach K is Chris Collin’s at Northwestern. He has taken NW from to the NCAA tournament multiple times now. Something they never did before him. He has to recruit with academic restrictions that he won’t have at IU. Weak NIL compared to IU for basketball. He is from Chicago so maybe more difficult to pull him away from home. But a name that should be considered when a change is eventually made. 
 

[Stuhoo 83,106]

30 minutes ago, Feathery said:

Someone may have mentioned this guy already but I’m going to bring him up. I was thinking what coaches have elevated programs and at the power 5 level. Maybe even taking them to levels they haven’t seen before. I don’t want a coach from the mid major level. It’s too risky. We need to get this right and someone with experience and success at the power 5 level is a mandatory imo. There are a few names that fit in this category and have been covered already like Pearl (63 years old), Drew (Indiana high school coaches don’t like so some say), Beard (wife beater).
 

One I haven’t seen and I just checked is only 49 years old, 50 this spring. Came up off a branch of the RMK tree under coach K is Chris Collin’s at Northwestern. He has taken NW from to the NCAA tournament multiple times now. Something they never did before him. He has to recruit with academic restrictions that he won’t have at IU. Weak NIL compared to IU for basketball. He is from Chicago so maybe more difficult to pull him away from home. But a name that should be considered when a change is eventually made. 
 

Chris Collins in conference play with Boo Buie: 34-40

Chris Collins in conference play without Boo Buie: 43-87

I know NW is a tough job, but no thank you.

[Chris007 48,526]

Does anyone know if Dennis Gates is still available? I've heard from a reliable source he is a can't-miss coach.

[Stuhoo 83,106]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Does anyone know if Dennis Gates is still available? I've heard from a reliable source he is a can't-miss coach.

He was can't-miss until he started drawing up plays for Tamar Bates! 

(ps: I suck)

[Chris007 48,526]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

He was until he started drawing up plays for Tamar Bates! 

(ps: I suck)

I think he will be fine but just needs to get his players and not talking about Bates. He has a good class coming in

[Class of '66 Old Fart 86,550]

17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he will be fine but just needs to get his players and not talking about Bates. He has a good class coming in

Hopefully he can get them over the hump!