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[SamIam 733]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I have watched them several times on TV. I love how the ball moves on offense, they try to find space or create space, they are spread out and the lane is never clogged. They look like what a true 4 out 1 in should look like. Then picture that offense with more talent.

I'll add to this, I've watched them a ton this year and last. Humblebrag but I had a Final Four future on them in January last year so they will always have a special place in my heart.

They never pass up an open 3 and the offense generates a buttload of open looks (7th in the nation in offensive shotquality). Dusty sometimes calls plays when they need a bucket but for the most part its "see space, attack space."

The calling card is versatility. Everyone playing needs to be able to effectively fill in 1-4. They have like 6 guards who are clones of each other. That's where I would focus,  they are all just dripping with Dusty's coaching.  He wants every guy to be able to defend 1 on 1, drive effectively, and hit open 3's. On offense, they initiate with whoever they think has the biggest mismatch, have him drive the guy himself or through a screen. He kicks, and they rinse and repeat attacking the scramble until they get an open three or layup. Johnell Davis is usually this guy because he usually has a slower 4 on him, but b/c they can all drive and shoot it doesn't matter who initiates the offense. On defense same thing. All rotation guards can defend 1-4, so they switch everything.  Hands are always ball level, they get a ton of deflections despite having very little length. Really pursue rebounds. They will alternate between sending doubles and playing straight up in the post throughout the game.  

It just makes them incredibly hard to guard or game plan for because if you take one guy away there are 3 more guards they can attack with. They lose when teams have enough length to take away those initial drives, and FAU gets stuck dribbling, then they get out of control and start throwing the ball into the stands on their kicks. Fun team to watch either way though. 

[SamIam 733]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I have watched them several times on TV. I love how the ball moves on offense, they try to find space or create space, they are spread out and the lane is never clogged. They look like what a true 4 out 1 in should look like. Then picture that offense with more talent.

It's unlikely we ever get to see it but Dusty's offense with a big guard like McNeeley is the absolute dream. Guard skills for offense, big enough to hold against 4's on defense. That's the vision for Dusty at the P5 level. 

[coonhounds 10,558]

I am not sold on dusty but if him or Woodson I will take him!

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[DChoosier 9,848]

On 2/15/2024 at 9:46 AM, Chris007 said:

Yeah he could always go back to Butler in a couple of years after Matta is done. I remember being at Butler for a game when he was there and being told he didn't want to go to a big basketball school. He didn't want to be inside a fishbowl and that is why a football school like OSU was going to be a good fit, which it was for the first few years. 

Yep.

I read an interview some guy did with Holtman at a restaurant in Broad Ripple, prior to him being hired at OSU, in which Holtman made it clear he did not have interest in fishbowls like IU.

[Feathery 4,005]

Someone may have mentioned this guy already but I’m going to bring him up. I was thinking what coaches have elevated programs and at the power 5 level. Maybe even taking them to levels they haven’t seen before. I don’t want a coach from the mid major level. It’s too risky. We need to get this right and someone with experience and success at the power 5 level is a mandatory imo. There are a few names that fit in this category and have been covered already like Pearl (63 years old), Drew (Indiana high school coaches don’t like so some say), Beard (wife beater).
 

One I haven’t seen and I just checked is only 49 years old, 50 this spring. Came up off a branch of the RMK tree under coach K is Chris Collin’s at Northwestern. He has taken NW from to the NCAA tournament multiple times now. Something they never did before him. He has to recruit with academic restrictions that he won’t have at IU. Weak NIL compared to IU for basketball. He is from Chicago so maybe more difficult to pull him away from home. But a name that should be considered when a change is eventually made. 
 

[Stuhoo 89,834]

30 minutes ago, Feathery said:

Someone may have mentioned this guy already but I’m going to bring him up. I was thinking what coaches have elevated programs and at the power 5 level. Maybe even taking them to levels they haven’t seen before. I don’t want a coach from the mid major level. It’s too risky. We need to get this right and someone with experience and success at the power 5 level is a mandatory imo. There are a few names that fit in this category and have been covered already like Pearl (63 years old), Drew (Indiana high school coaches don’t like so some say), Beard (wife beater).
 

One I haven’t seen and I just checked is only 49 years old, 50 this spring. Came up off a branch of the RMK tree under coach K is Chris Collin’s at Northwestern. He has taken NW from to the NCAA tournament multiple times now. Something they never did before him. He has to recruit with academic restrictions that he won’t have at IU. Weak NIL compared to IU for basketball. He is from Chicago so maybe more difficult to pull him away from home. But a name that should be considered when a change is eventually made. 
 

Chris Collins in conference play with Boo Buie: 34-40

Chris Collins in conference play without Boo Buie: 43-87

I know NW is a tough job, but no thank you.

[Chris007 62,603]

Does anyone know if Dennis Gates is still available? I've heard from a reliable source he is a can't-miss coach.

[Stuhoo 89,834]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Does anyone know if Dennis Gates is still available? I've heard from a reliable source he is a can't-miss coach.

He was can't-miss until he started drawing up plays for Tamar Bates! 

(ps: I suck)

[Chris007 62,603]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

He was until he started drawing up plays for Tamar Bates! 

(ps: I suck)

I think he will be fine but just needs to get his players and not talking about Bates. He has a good class coming in

[Class of '66 Old Fart 91,255]

17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he will be fine but just needs to get his players and not talking about Bates. He has a good class coming in

Hopefully he can get them over the hump!

[Demo 23,834]

47 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he will be fine but just needs to get his players and not talking about Bates. He has a good class coming in

He’s gonna be fine, and, yeah, their class is terrific. Boateng is a Guy.

[Feathery 4,005]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Chris Collins in conference play with Boo Buie: 34-40

Chris Collins in conference play without Boo Buie: 43-87

I know NW is a tough job, but no thank you.

You can say that about anyone. What’s Dusty May without his current team. Everyone is a gamble outside of Pearl and Drew imo. I think we can get Pearl. He wasn’t 100% committed to staying at Auburn in a recent article for the remainder if his career. I just can’t imagine IU actually going for him. So I’m setting my sights a bit lower. 

[JF87 2,149]

I was surprised to see that Shrewsberry's defense at Notre Dame is currently ranked 29th in Kenpom.  I think of him as an offense guy, but I guess he's more well-rounded than I assumed.   However, Notre Dame's offense is atrocious this year.  They are ranked 295th in Kenpom.  I like Shrewsberry as a coach and I think his connection to the state of Indiana is a positive.  I would put him on a potential short list with Dusty and Schertz. 

[SamIam 733]

1 hour ago, JF87 said:

I was surprised to see that Shrewsberry's defense at Notre Dame is currently ranked 29th in Kenpom.  I think of him as an offense guy, but I guess he's more well-rounded than I assumed.   However, Notre Dame's offense is atrocious this year.  They are ranked 295th in Kenpom.  I like Shrewsberry as a coach and I think his connection to the state of Indiana is a positive.  I would put him on a potential short list with Dusty and Schertz. 

38th in 3 pointers attempted but only 313 in 3pt%. I'm impressed by their defense too, they are super super young I'm sure he will have them rolling very soon. 

[AH1971 3,316]

1 hour ago, JF87 said:

I was surprised to see that Shrewsberry's defense at Notre Dame is currently ranked 29th in Kenpom.  I think of him as an offense guy, but I guess he's more well-rounded than I assumed.   However, Notre Dame's offense is atrocious this year.  They are ranked 295th in Kenpom.  I like Shrewsberry as a coach and I think his connection to the state of Indiana is a positive.  I would put him on a potential short list with Dusty and Schertz. 

If he gets Mullins and Sisley, to go along with Markus Burton, those offensive numbers will change dramatically. A lot of young guys trying to score in a brand new system is never easy.

[Kentuckysucks 4,332]

Shrewsberry would be a disaster imo.  Can't think of a worse hire.

[go iu bb 9,795]

4 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Shrewsberry would be a disaster imo.  Can't think of a worse hire.

I just don't understand the love he gets here. His resume doesn't support it.

[AH1971 3,316]

9 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I just don't understand the love he gets here. His resume doesn't support it.

Shrews is going to be a good one once he picks a spot and settles down. He’s definitely still in the move up the ladder stage.

[AZ Hoosier 10,990]

50 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Shrewsberry would be a disaster imo.  Can't think of a worse hire.

I'm not a Shrews guy... but clearly we have done worse. (Looking at you, Mike Woodson)

[Hornsby 3,870]

I'm not a Shrews guy... but clearly we have done worse. (Looking at you, Mike Woodson)

The Woodson hire was doomed at the start imo. Nba guys never make it in college. It was just a really bad idea from he start. They tried to sell the he will get top recruits cause he wass in th nba. He got a few but not nearly enough to mask his poor coaching. He would need to be landing the boogies and queens every year to be competitive.

 

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