General Coach Candidate News

[Stuhoo 81,972]

I loves me some Micah Shrewsbury.

Maybe I'm wrong and I understand he hasn't achieved all that much as a head coach, but damn, he seems to be a dude to me.

[Chris007 46,203]

5 minutes ago, cybergates said:

Interested to hear people's thoughts on Shrewsberry. Doesn't have an impressive record but understandable that he took over teams without a great record the prior year. Heard he has great recruiting connections in the state but that's about all I've heard...

I think he can recruit very well. His system seems to be fun to watch. He has college & NBA experience. Plus he links us to Brad

[AKHoosier 7,064]

Shrewsberry isn't someone I would target first, second, or third, but if we ended up hiring him there is an awful lot to be excited about.

We need someone a little more proven is why I say that. 

[hper50 1,354]

This might get some eyerolls, but any thoughts on Shaka Smart? Still just 46 years old, teams play really hard, would bring a lot of missing energy to the program.... hiccup at Texas but has proven he can win in a big conference so far at Marquette....

Top 40ish KenPom Defensive rating nearly every year since taking the UT job.... #7 in Offensive efficiency last year... just a thought

[Hovadipo 56,977]

Just now, hper50 said:

This might get some eyerolls, but any thoughts on Shaka Smart? Still just 46 years old, teams play really hard, would bring a lot of missing energy to the program.... hiccup at Texas but has proven he can win in a big conference so far at Marquette....

Top 40ish KenPom Defensive ratings nearly every year since taking the UT job.... #7 in Offensive efficiency last year... just a thought

I'd love to know what exactly happened at Texas, because the guy obviously can coach. I think folks here have said anyone will be hard-pressed to get him out of Milwaukee though.

[Uspshoosier 46,622]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

I'd love to know what exactly happened at Texas, because the guy obviously can coach. I think folks here have said anyone will be hard-pressed to get him out of Milwaukee though.

Yeah he is from Wisconsin and is at a program that spends a ton on the basketball program.   One of the top spenders in all of college basketball 

[hper50 1,354]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

I'd love to know what exactly happened at Texas, because the guy obviously can coach. I think folks here have said anyone will be hard-pressed to get him out of Milwaukee though.

Yep, I noticed he was born in Madison, wasn't sure how important that was.

He was fired after being a #3 seed in the Dance at Texas. Upset by #14 Abilene Christian, but still!

 

[LamarCheeks 19,662]

2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I'd love to know what exactly happened at Texas, because the guy obviously can coach. I think folks here have said anyone will be hard-pressed to get him out of Milwaukee though.

The thing I like about Shaka -- he was the hot thing after VCU went to the Final Four, yet stuck around for three more seasons before making the jump. And they were pretty good seasons.

In the meantime, he turned down a lot of offers -- I wanna say Illinois went after him one of those years. Guess he just felt Texas was a good fit -- or knowing Texas, they did like the Godfather and made him an offer he couldn't refuse. 

[LamarCheeks 19,662]

Don't know if Dan Campbell knows a damn thing about basketball, but I'd say let's offer him the gig. 

Who the hell's gonna argue with this dude ... 

[Hoosierfan1901 6,433]

Heard Donovan was house shopping in Bloomington 

[Demo 20,547]

Old Kevin here has summed up the whole coaching conundrum incredibly well. Oh, and the chances that Iowa would do better than McCaffrey, which is the subject of this thread, are pretty poor. 

[JSHoosier 20,532]

52 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

One name I’d keep an eye on is Tony Bennett. Word is he’s not happy that the Virginia administration hasn’t taken to NIL like other schools. He might want to make a change. I know his family history with IU. I just know his name has been mentioned by some.

I wanted Bennett a few years ago. Not sure how his style would appeal to higher ranked recruits but that's a hire that would get media attention.

[LamarCheeks 19,662]

5 minutes ago, Demo said:

Old Kevin here has summed up the whole coaching conundrum incredibly well. Oh, and the chances that Iowa would do better than McCaffrey, which is the subject of this thread, are pretty poor. 

Living down here in ACC country -- Fran's a bit like Brad Brownell (whom I believe played with Calbert at Evansville Harrison).  He's been at Clemson forever. Seems as if he's not good enough to make the jump to a better job and not bad enough to get fired. Just kinda keeps hanging around. 

[BleedCubbieBlue 1,454]

32 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

When I say proven winner there is no name attached to it. Every one has a different idea what a winner is. 

I think that the statement "Every one has a different idea what a winner is" explains why we are in our current situation. The reason everyone keeps describing our program as "rudderless" is because there is no clear consensus for how we even define success. How in the hell can we ever be successful when we can't agree what success looks like, much less have a clear strategy for how to obtain it?

[Hornsby 2,332]

I think the major problem for Woody right now is the 25 class. I’ve heard that 3 different families have complained about Woodson not coming to one of their kids games like other head coaches. Two of these kids should be slam dunks for IU. Maybe Woody knows he doesn’t want to do it anymore after this season. 

He should be busting his himp 24/7 to get these guys. That's what you do when you take over a program. No wonder we cannot barely land anyone in the fall.

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[Chris007 46,203]

10 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

Is it that or more that he is too focused on immediate need. Maybe same thing I guess but feels like he is focused on still wrapping 2024 and then the portal. Kind of, I will get to 2025 later. 
 

Issue for sure but not sure I would equate that to him not planning to be around. Maybe not understanding you have to walk and chew gum at same time.

I just think a change this fast is going to set us back close to Crean early years. Some will say portal fixes that but then you better get a GREAT recruiter. Not sure that is a guy like Dusty or Shrews (at current timing). 
 

let me ask you this, without naming names (unless you want to) - do you feel we retain the key pieces for next year if Woody is here? Do you feel those key pieces are moving on somehow, no matter what? I don’t, but maybe you know or feel differently. 

I think Cupps, Trey, Reneau, Sparks are back. I think Ware is gone, don’t know about MM, Banks or Gunn even though I’m leaning to him leaving. 
 

I do think that Dolson is going to sit down with Woodson this offseason and tell him he needs to make wholesale changes. The offense has to change, recruiting has to pick up. He doesn’t go to high school games, misses AAU tournaments. He will be given next year to make changes. Kind of like Cal has gone to playing through the post, to know being guard oriented.

[Bankshot 544]

As a taxpayer and Indiana Alum, I'd like to know how and why we think hiring two straight athletic directors with no previous experience as division 1 (or even D2) ADs is wise, good management, good stewardship, or defensible when other, more qualified candidates were available.

And, in my opinion, this kind of thinking/failure is a root cause issue for IU's now multi-decade athletic mis-management problems, and plays a direct part in our problems and failures when ADs routinely make or are involved in multi-million dollar decisions that spend or waste at least some public funds.

IU has a long standing history of making blunder after blunder in the hiring and firing portion of athletics.

I would also like to know exactly how we ended up hiring Mike Woodson in this last hiring approach. (Note: I like Woodson, he's a beloved former player and IU legend. I just don't understand at all how we ended up hiring him out of what should have been a pursuit to find the best possible candidate. I.e., another in a long string of terrible hiring mistakes , IMO.)

IMO, if you want to know why IU is still lost and struggling after so long, it's because we have made many, many terrible hiring/firing decisions...bad AD hires, bad coach hires, keeping coaches too long, and possibly a few bad president hires too. (Many of these mistakes were made by inexperienced or unqualified people who themselves should never have been hired).

We need PROVEN competence and experience from the president down. If you hire unproven amateurs you're likely to get sub-par results. Successful organization simply do not operate like this.

Sorry, meant for this to be in the ‘Complain’ thread.

[Hornsby 2,332]

I think Cupps, Trey, Reneau, Sparks are back. I think Ware is gone, don’t know about MM, Banks or Gunn even though I’m leaning to him leaving. 

 

I do think that Dolson is going to sit down with Woodson this offseason and tell him he needs to make wholesale changes. The offense has to change, recruiting has to pick up. He doesn’t go to high school games, misses AAU tournaments. He will be given next year to make changes. Kind of like Cal has gone to playing through the post, to know being guard oriented.

40 years in the NBA I don't have much hope he can change. He seems to like the idea of the iu job but doesn't seem committed to putting in the hard work needed imo. Yes he will get another year but anything less than 20 plus wins and a sweet sixeteen in year four should be the end of the line for him. Maybe he will just tell dolson he is not willing to put in the hard work and he quits. One can dream I guess

 

 

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[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,843]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

 

I do think that Dolson is going to sit down with Woodson this offseason and tell him he needs to make wholesale changes. The offense has to change, recruiting has to pick up. He doesn’t go to high school games, misses AAU tournaments. He will be given next year to make changes. Kind of like Cal has gone to playing through the post, to know being guard oriented.

And my fear is Woody will nod in agreement but very little will change.  Almost has that RMK mindset that I'm bigger than IU and I'll do what I damn well please.

[str8baller 5,584]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

CC has a spot on the staff as long as he wants one. No matter the coach.

Any coach that wanted CC out would throw up a major red flag.  He’s a non recruiting position. He’s an IU legend. He has a solid background. I’ve never met him, but he comes off as a likable, intelligent and low key guy. I would think most new coaches would jump to inherit a guy like that.