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[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

MSU is almost certainly in the grey by getting Emoni Bates. Villanova has been getting 5 stars recently. Just don’t blatantly cheat like Will Wade and I’m fine with doing what other schools do. It’s naive thinking we’ll win at the level we want putting ourselves at such a disadvantage. 

MSU covers up rapes by their players. If they’re willing to do that to win (which I’m not, for the record), there’s zero chance they aren’t also paying players.

[Unexpectedflash]

I’m hoping when players are able to get paid the playing field evens a little because we definitely won’t try and even it ourselves. If we must be squeaky clean then hopefully we can figure out some other way to gain an advantage once that is passed.

[BGleas]

2 minutes ago, jmsgws said:

I thought I was jaded.  If I had your belief.  I don't know if I could watch college sports ever again.  

Am I jaded, or is it reality? Maryland and Kansas were out bidding each other a couple years ago over De Sousa (I think that's his name) who was a borderline starter, a recruit ranked in like the 80's or something. Not a 5*. 

 

[JSHoosier]

10 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I am so embarrassed by some of this so called IU fan base who would ever think for one moment IU should blatantly cheat just to win more games.

Name a program that wins at a high level and wins consistently that is completely clean.  I'd be absolutely shocked if there is one.  You're not really breaking rules if the people responsible for enforcement don't care, because if they don't care the rules don't mean much.  Trying to be completely clean is just handicapping the program.

Some lines shouldn't be crossed, like don't cover up sexual assault or rape.

[Hippopotamo]

We’ve got some incredibly naive fans if they don’t think almost every program in America doesn’t operate at least a little bit in the gray area. There are the obvious schools like Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Louisville, Arizona, LSU, etc where we’re all very confident of blatant cheating, but the “clean” schools like Villanova and others don’t win without operating in a gray area. 

[rcbowla]

I thought I was jaded.  If I had your belief.  I don't know if I could watch college sports ever again.  

Might not want to then. Or turn your attention to the Horizon League. These guys are right.

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[HoosierFan1994]

4 minutes ago, tortex28 said:

 

 

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You know they will ask him about it after. 
If it’s true I’m cancelling my Peegs subscription. Those guys don’t know $h!t!! They act like it’s a done deal. 

[rcbowla]

And if you think basketball is bad you might as well never watch another college football game lol. Even Ball St is probably heavily in the gray in football.

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[IU Scott]

Just now, HoosierFan1994 said:

You know they will ask him about it after. 
If it’s true I’m cancelling my Peegs subscription. Those guys don’t know $h!t!! They act like it’s a done deal. 

What is a done deal?

[Hippopotamo]

I’m not saying we should hire Will Wade and let him run amok. I’m not saying we should bid on players and pay them hundreds of thousands of dollars. I’m not saying we should ever allow what Greg Marshall did at Wichita state, and I’m not saying we should allow student athletes to get away with sexual assault and other crimes. What I’m saying is we don’t need to operate like we’re scared of making a mistake and we don’t need to tell on ourselves when we break a minor rule. We should tell the NCAA to pound sand and make them prove misconduct because it has been proven to be the correct way to operate at the high major level. 

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[8bucks]

1 minute ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

You know they will ask him about it after. 
If it’s true I’m cancelling my Peegs subscription. Those guys don’t know $h!t!! They act like it’s a done deal. 

Peegsters think Moser to IU is going to happen?

[str8baller]

3 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Name a program that wins at a high level and wins consistently that is completely clean.  I'd be absolutely shocked if there is one.  You're not really breaking rules if the people responsible for enforcement don't care, because if they don't care the rules don't mean much.  Trying to be completely clean is just handicapping the program.

Some lines shouldn't be crossed, like don't cover up sequel assault or rape.

Is this supposed to be some kind of excuse for IU? Very unlikely UVA is doing anything that IU isn’t. 

[Indiana8585]

1 minute ago, Hippopotamo said:

I’m not saying we should hire Will Wade and let him run amok. I’m not saying we should bid on players and pay them hundreds of thousands of dollars. I’m not saying we should ever allow what Greg Marshall did at Wichita state, and I’m not saying we should allow student athletes to get away with sexual assault and other crimes. What I’m saying is we don’t need to operate like we’re scared of making a mistake and we don’t need to tell on ourselves when we break a minor rule. We should tell the NCAA to pound sand and prove misconduct because it has been proven to be the correct way to operate at the high major level. 

I wish I could like this a thousand times. Great post! 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

Loyola may be in their way to their second final four in four years.

That’s pretty ******* good.

Wondering how much their players are getting paid.

Lot of basketball still to be played before they get there.
 

That’s not at all an equal comparison though, but you know that. So why make it? Coaching in the Missouri Valley Conference and recruiting kids who play in that kind of conference is worlds different from competing in the Big 10 and recruiting against P5 schools from across the country. I don’t think the MVC has too many kids getting paid to play in it. You don’t need to worry about paying players when none of your competition is either. The Big 10, on the other hand? We expect our coaches to be able to land players who are good enough to win games with, but we expect them to do it while not competing on the same playing field in the recruiting 

[JHoosier914]

Can’t wait to watch iu score 40 points a game if we get moser...Jeez 

More like 32 at this pace...


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[HoosierFan1994]

4 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Peegsters think Moser to IU is going to happen?

 

5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

What is a done deal?

Not sure if anyone else on there agrees but the Hoosier Hysterics, Rabby, and Peegs act like it’s a done deal and they talk about him non stop. They just say IU and his reps have talked and there is “chatter”.

[IU Scott]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Lot of basketball still to be played before they get there.
 

That’s not at all an equal comparison though, but you know that. So why make it? Coaching in the Missouri Valley Conference and recruiting kids who play in that kind of conference is worlds different from competing in the Big 10 and recruiting against P5 schools from across the country. I don’t think the MVC has too many kids getting paid to play in it. You don’t need to worry about paying players when none of your competition is either. The Big 10, on the other hand? We expect our coaches to be able to land players who are good enough to win games with, but we expect them to do it while not competing on the same playing field in the recruiting 

Let me ask you this if your best friend was selling drugs but wasn't getting caught would you then sell drugs as well.

[BGleas]

5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Well if you get caught you get a ticket.  So what is the equivalent of jay walking in college basketball.  I have asked so many times for people to define what a gray area in recruiting means.  Is it it getting players families jobs or getting them approved for loans for $500,000 home that they can't afford.

I'll give you an example. We've all heard how it's really difficult for IU to get grad transfers in, right? I don't know how accurate that is, but let's assume its accurate for discussions sake. 

Stay with me here. I wasn't the best student in high school. Mostly just lack of focus and caring. So when I was being recruited for basketball, some schools had to pass because of my GPA. 

The school I ended up going to had me hold off on applying to school until the coach mailed me an application. The application he sent me was stamped at the top with a special "Basketball Office" stamp so the admissions people would know i was a scholarship recruit that our coach wanted to be admitted. Not every player got that application. 

Obviously I didn't play at IU's level, but I'd consider that the Division 2 version of the gray area. 

So let's assume the IU grad transfer difficulty rumor is true. No IU basketball coach should ever have to worry about that if he wants a player. 

[MikeRoberts]

Loyola not looking good at all

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Just now, MikeRoberts said:

Loyola not looking good at all

16 points on 23 shots in 20 minutes. Only 5 turnovers.