Maynard Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 I don't understand those who are preaching tempo and wanting guys like Oats because of their offensive style. Alabama was in or near the top 10 in tempo, but they only scored a few ppg more than Michigan. Would anyone be disappointed with a Michigan style offense? They ranked 259th in temp this year. Guess who ranked 206th, a full 53 spots ahead of them? That's right, Archie Miller's Hoosiers. They felt so much slower because they were so inefficient. RMK's teams were near the top of the B1G in scoring because of efficiency, not tempo. Efficiency is what matters. NVFalcons1990 1
Trish Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 Our fans having to sit through more 50 - 47 games. Oh boy.. that would be something. But hey, if we get a 6th Banner then we can score 40PPG for all I care! ElectricBoogaloo 1
mdiu28 Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Treesh said: Brad ********* Stevens! It's not over until I'm a press conference. Positive vibes. LOVE IT! ALASKA HOOSIER and Trish 2
Unexpectedflash Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 Bennett's teams are slow but at least they are modern in terms of shot selection. They ran a lot of 5 out offenses this year. They are consistently great shooting teams and take a high percentage of theirs shots from three which is a big difference from Archie. I think there's a reason that Bennett has been able to have top 20 offensive efficiency teams the last 5 years. BGleas 1
TadQueasy Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 The style of play stuff always amazes me. I could care less about style of play. I care about Ws. Play any style you want but get Ws. Playing hard. Make adjustments. Have a good relationship with players. Those things are way more important that a style of offense. hoosierbannerd, ElectricBoogaloo, Maynard and 1 other 3 1
IUHAHN81 Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 As soon as we get a guy who has us actually winning 70% of our games, playing style will fade to the back of our minds. Everyone wants to have fun watching but I guarantee we wanna win even more. Winning masks A LOT :) Ghost of Rick Majerus, lillurk, NVFalcons1990 and 4 others 7
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, TadQueasy said: The style of play stuff always amazes me. I could care less about style of play. I care about Ws. Play any style you want but get Ws. Playing hard. Make adjustments. Have a good relationship with players. Those things are way more important that a style of offense. Basketball is entertainment. I want to win, but I also want to enjoy watching us win. 50-47 slugfests are not something I enjoy watching. If it's what I have to do to watch IU win then ok, but it wouldn't be my #1 choice. Hillsdale87 1
IUc2016 Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said: What candidate would get Lander excited enough to Tweet that? That's where my mind is at. Then again, he agreed to play for Archie so :/ Lander was most definitely a Michigan fan growing up. It was always thought that he would go to Michigan if not IU. Beilein was the coach of those Michigan teams that Lander watched growing up. just sayin IUHAHN81, Chris007, FWHoosier84 and 2 others 5
TadQueasy Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said: Basketball is entertainment. I want to win, but I also want to enjoy watching us win. 50-47 slugfests are not something I enjoy watching. If it's what I have to do to watch IU win then ok, but it wouldn't be my #1 choice. Winning is entertainment. NVFalcons1990 and IUHAHN81 2
IUCrazy2 Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, normandale97 said: I'm not delusional and I don't want Bennett. It's just personal preference. I look at basketball as entertainment and his style to me is not entertaining. Is he a good coach? Absolutely, I just don't like watching his teams play. That's fair. I think the guy would win a whole bunch here, where I think he would start to lose people is if the inexplicable early round tournament losses continue to be a thing. Losing to a 16 seed as a 1. They went out early again this year. It just seems to me that the Bennett/Miller defense is really susceptible to getting killed by teams that can shoot the 3 because you are worried about stopping the other team's 6'8" center from scoring in the paint. I think that and boring basketball would be the potential downside to Bennett. On the upside, there would be a whole lot more winning than we have seen around here for most of the last 20 years. Kentuckysucks and ElectricBoogaloo 2
Ghost of Rick Majerus Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: I'd be thrilled with his results but I'd be lying if I said that I'd find his style aesthetically pleasing. Even when we won under Archie's style the games were painful to watch a lot of the time. But, I just want to win and win a lot, so I'd be happy to have Bennett. I get it, it's not a run and gun offense like we would love to see. Who wouldn't want that? But, I'm like you, I just want to see this program as a consistently successful. I want to see this program in the top tier of the big ten and competing for National Titles. Heck, I'd like to see us compete for a Big Ten Tournament Championship. That would be a nice step. Edited March 22, 2021 by Ghost of Rick Majerus Hoosierfan2017 1
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, TadQueasy said: Winning is entertainment. Ehh.. I suppose. We won a lot of games under Archie that I did not find entertaining at all. Tom Crean, for all his faults, put out an entertaining product. His teams were a lot of fun to watch. Beggars can't be choosers though, so if I have to watch boring basketball to watch IU win then I will do it, and if we win enough I won't be complaining. Capt. Crimson 1
JSHoosier Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 I'd love Bennett, style of play means didly as long as you win. RaceToTheTop, Hoosierfanyuh, JaybobHoosier and 1 other 4
Kentuckysucks Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 There's no way it's Beilein or Matta. Both could easily be the next Coach Hep although thankfully their issues aren't life threatening. rayl456 1
JaybobHoosier Posted March 22, 2021 Author Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, JSHoosier said: I'd love Bennett, style of play means didly as long as you win. Exactly! I don’t like the style and it can cause a few letdowns, but I could live with his results!!! I will take a more boring style if that means a lot of wins and a title once every 10 years! Kentuckysucks 1
Trish Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said: There's no way it's Beilein or Matta. Both could easily be the next Coach Hep although thankfully their issues aren't life threatening. It would be disappointing going down the list to numbers 4-7 for most folks here. After all, this is Indiana..right? I wouldn't mind John. I think he gets us back to winning the quickest. I have no idea how Matta would perform after taking four years off from working.
TheDarkKnight69 Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said: There's no way it's Beilein or Matta. Both could easily be the next Coach Hep although thankfully their issues aren't life threatening. Anyone could “be the next Hep”. Cancer is a ***** and doesn’t discriminate tkbbn and IUc2016 1 1
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 Maybe we're looking at this in totally the wrong way. Maybe we should be trying to hire Sister Jean. Prayer might be our only answer. IMO many of you will be sorely disappointed when we don't hire a high profile name and even if we do, many will still be disappointed because we can't even come up with a consensus of who we want on btb. My $.02 Money is important but it's not the sole motivator. Our history of firing coaches doesn't project a good image. If our Compliance Dept. is truly a problem then that alone will turn off some candidates. I think everyone needs to temper their expectations. JaybobHoosier and thebigweave 2
Bankshot Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 Consistently being in the top 20, 10 or less losses per year, top 3 in conference, not worrying about being a bubble team...all would be major improvements. Hoosierfanyuh, IUHAHN81 and JaybobHoosier 2 1
Kentuckysucks Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight69 said: Anyone could “be the next Hep”. Cancer is a ***** and doesn’t discriminate Of course. But Beilein and Matta are way to high of a risk. Beilein looks and sounds 10 years older than he is and he's 68. Plus he's never won quickly. It would take several years if ever at all.
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