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[Hornsby]

I don't dislike McCollum but I have immediate concerns about any candidate that needs the AD to immediately build up a support system to cover gaps in his ability to run a big-time program. That's such a red flag. 

Exactly it's like Woodson needing people around him. He may be a good coach but if we have to build all these people around him it's a red flag no doubt. I really thought we were done with having to do that.


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[mdn82]

Just now, SlammySammy said:

Multiple videos posted here and in the McCollum thread

How is he immediately after games?  How is his coaching/communication style?  More so than a presser.  Those are easy if you win and are impossible if you lose here.  He has won no doubt.  Will it translate?  A lot of questions.  But I think once we get past the McDermott/TJO level we were always going to have exponentially more questions.  Even at that level there would be some.  

[SlammySammy]

1 minute ago, coonhounds said:

Hopefully otherwise this a waste of time?

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He’ll make the rounds, shake the hands, schmooze the locals….its not science…

 

[Home Jersey]

4 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

I honestly don’t know if I have heard the man speak.  That’s where my trepidation stems from.  I am not USPS lol, but few are.  I feel I watch a lot of ball enough where I would hear and see someone enough I can sell and get behind.  I legit have no clue other than stats and advanced stats.  Those will no doubt change with better talent and different/stronger opponents.  But to your point, personality is huge at a place like this.  I would have to run on blind hope here if that’s the way it went in the end.  

 

2 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Crash course intro to McCollum: 

 

 

• Episode 182: Ben McCollum, The Defense Will Show You What To Do and Love Your Player's Strength (2021)
• Ben McCollum on PNR Pace and Angles, Player Constraints, and Stats that Matter (2022)
• Long form article: Meet Ben McCollum, the Division II coach winning titles and turning heads across college basketball (2021)

 

[Hornsby]

The real reason they’re looking more seriously at McCollum is because he’s never gotten so much as a parking ticket. ;)

That also. Pass on beard and hire a d2 guy. It's pretty clear even with massive nil we are just another average at best job.

 

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[Shooter]

3 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

I honestly don’t know if I have heard the man speak.  That’s where my trepidation stems from.  I am not USPS lol, but few are.  I feel I watch a lot of ball enough where I would hear and see someone enough I can sell and get behind.  I legit have no clue other than stats and advanced stats.  Those will no doubt change with better talent and different/stronger opponents.  But to your point, personality is huge at a place like this.  I would have to run on blind hope here if that’s the way it went in the end.  

Agree with your overall point. I don't know a ton about McCollum's personality, positive or negative. But that's a huge factor in making the right hire.

We can sit here and look at resumes, but there was nothing obvious in the resume to tell you that Archie Miller would fail and Pat Kelsey would succeed. Have to trust Dolson et all to do the interviews, vetting and make the right choice.

[wirenuts]

2 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

It even more likely that this push is from his agent to get Iowa to move quick.  

Yeah if Iowa wants mccollum, the time is right now to fire the franimal. 

Then again, probably any time is the right time to fire the franimal

[Artie86]

12 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

He’ll make the rounds, shake the hands, schmooze the locals….its not science…

 

…..I’m sorry Slammy, but I can ‘t take you seriously without hearing Sammy’s creepy and ominous laugh!!! Lol

[Home Jersey]

Just now, SlammySammy said:

He’ll make the rounds, shake the hands, schmooze the locals….its not science…

 

People are way overstating the difficulty of the off court stuff.

Nobody is really debating his X's and O's capabilities. 

The money/political obstacles seem to no longer be in place from admin.

The guy either has the chops for this job or he doesn't.

Seems like a good bet he does, and given enough time, can prove it in a big way. 

Trust Dolson or not...

[SlammySammy]

I think my head is in the “wait until Monday” space right now…it’s my opinion that if there is no Steven’s massive leaks or announcement on Monday, our coach is still coaching  

 

[HoosierSadaseci]

I've watched so much about MCCollum lately that I may be disappointed if we don't get him...lol...

[mdn82]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

 

 

I definitely appreciate it man, but I am more hopeful to watch sideline and timeout clips than someone telling me how they feel about him.  How attentive is his players?  Is he a screamer?  How is he out of timeouts?  I know his team hasn’t run and is extremely efficient.  Is that due to talent or him?  I hope to watch some game footage if we end up going that route.  Which is odd for me. 

[BtownBallers]

So there is another flight to that airport near Boston tonight from Indianapolis International departing at 11:30 pm. Still could be nothing. Sorry if this was already posted, hard to keep up tonight. 

[Demo]

22 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

I agree with this, I also think they have guys they would leave that are 5 or 4 stars because they don't fit! We focus on star ratings, they focus on who fits what they want! That is what winners do!

You got it. No matter where he’s recruiting going forward, McCollum’s gonna recruit to what he values. When you listen to the guy talk the game and his players there are 2 qualities he clearly values more than anything else, self-motivation and mental processing speed. And given how much motion he runs and how much read and react they have built in that makes perfect sense. But the thing we’d have to get used to with a guy like him is that he’d be the anti-Woody from a roster building perspective. For all the criticism of Woody recruiting based solely on the stars next to a kid’s name, the fact of the matter is those made for sexier, more interesting recruitments. I doubt McCollum gives the slightest $hit about stars. We say we want that, but if he starts recruiting dudes with offers from directional Michigan schools, and I doubt that would solely be the deal because every coach wants talent, but if he does, ya just gotta trust he knows what he wants and judge the development piece and the results. 

[Trish]

6 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

It even more likely that this push is from his agent to get Iowa to move quick.  

Exactly this. Iowa wants Ben to move an hour in a half east instead of 10 hours to Bloomington. He loves Iowa and his kids love Iowa from what I’ve read.

Bloomington isn’t Des Moines or Iowa City and that’s a good thing. 

[Silat Player]

6 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Exactly it's like Woodson needing people around him. He may be a good coach but if we have to build all these people around him it's a red flag no doubt. I really thought we were done with having to do that.


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1.) I have no idea why people have been so triggered by Goodman's BM tweet. He didn't really say anything that hadn't already been suspected by those on this forum. 

2.) I have no idea why so many people think that BM would require such a huge support system to function as the coach at IU. He's been a coach for a long time. I'm sure he knows a lot of people already and knows how the recruiting system works and knows AAU folks, etc... 

And I don't care who the coach is, every program needs both a GM now and an ace recruiter. A GM is just a necessity with the payments and NIL and the transfer portal. And even RMK had an ace recruiter. Anyone remember Joby Wright? He was responsible for RMK's last truly great class...

[IU_FanClub]

7 minutes ago, BehindTheBench said:

Ehhhhh, before NIL yes, but Romeo for sure got a bag lol 

Shoe guy lol

[Home Jersey]

Just now, mdn82 said:

I definitely appreciate it man, but I am more hopeful to watch sideline and timeout clips than someone telling me how they feel about him.  How attentive is his players?  Is he a screamer?  How is he out of timeouts?  I know his team hasn’t run and is extremely efficient.  Is that due to talent or him?  I hope to watch some game footage if we end up going that route.  Which is odd for me. 

He gets into a lot of that in the two podcasts. Can find clips of his post game interviews on YouTube... probably find some game replays, if he eventually is the hire and you want to look at that stuff too. I think you'll like what you see. 

[Shooter]

Just now, Demo said:

You got it. No matter where he’s recruiting going forward, McCollum’s gonna recruit to what he values. When you listen to the guy talk the game and his players there are 2 qualities he clearly values more than anything else, self-motivation and mental processing speed. And given how much motion he runs and how much read and react they have built in that makes perfect sense. But the thing we’d have to get used to with a guy like him is that he’d be the anti-Woody from a roster building perspective. For all the criticism of Woody recruiting based solely on the stars next to a kid’s name, the fact of the matter is those made for sexier, more interesting recruitments. I doubt McCollum gives the slightest $hit about stars. We say we want that, but if he starts recruiting dudes with offers from directional Michigan schools, and I doubt that would solely be the deal because every coach wants talent, but if he does, you just gotta trust he knows what he wants and judge the development piece and the results. 

So he's going to love Mgbako?

Seriously though, it's sounds like you are describing Matt Painter. I've often thought that Painter's best quality is that he knows exactly what he is looking for in a player, and doesn't care about stars. 

[Golfman25]

My concern with a guy like McCullum is lack of experience at the D1 level and can he, or will he, adapt.  He plays an offense that worked great with limited talent and the D2 level, and seems to work at Drake.  Sure, he beat a top team here and there.  But we are talking the daily grind of the Big10.  Can he, will he, upgrade his system to attract and use more talented players he can get at IU?  You need the horses at this level to be consistently good.