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[hoosierbannerd 2,749]

2 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

30 years too! Respect!
Both my daughters also graduated from IU, one’s a counselor at our hometown middle school and the other has her own business as a Certified ABA for students with Autism in the same town.
I’m very proud of my baby girls! 

My middle older sis was a self contained Lifeskills teacher.. we worked at the same school for a few years..had a blast with her!

[Gnet550 978]

Okay, just skimmed through 59 pages since I last read, last night.

 

what a roller coaster…….

 

my main thought, let’s assume @RoadToZion is correct…can we please rethink the contract…66 over 6 years. Can we please make it 65 or 67….no 6, 6, 6 please! Lol

[AZ Hoosier 9,733]

13 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

It's filling up...

 

[realTomCrean 2,351]

https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1899612045026247157?s=46

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5 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

https://x.com/curryhickssage/status/1899612045026247157?s=46

Watched Will Wade tonight and when the game ended they went to the studio and there you were, Tom Crean. You actually had that same exact look on your face. It was jarring. 

[TrueHoosier62 1,716]

I hope that in the unlikely event we hire Brad Stevens, we aren't treated to the coaching version of Damon Bailey, where expectations are just too unrealistic. Can you imagine the mess that would create for Dolsen and everyone else who signed off on it, or the impact it would have on future candidates?

[Ponduke 49]

8 minutes ago, TrueHoosier62 said:

I hope that in the unlikely event we hire Brad Stevens, we aren't treated to the coaching version of Damon Bailey, where expectations are just too unrealistic. Can you imagine the mess that would create for Dolsen and everyone else who signed off on it, or the impact it would have on future candidates?

 

[TrueHoosier62 1,716]

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17 minutes ago, TrueHoosier62 said:

I hope that in the unlikely event we hire Brad Stevens, we aren't treated to the coaching version of Damon Bailey, where expectations are just too unrealistic. Can you imagine the mess that would create for Dolsen and everyone else who signed off on it, or the impact it would have on future candidates?

Certainly, that is a real possibility. If the numbers being thrown around here earlier today were accurate, he will be under immediate pressure to win and win big. But you can’t hit a home run without swinging for the fences. Especially when you are trying to undo nearly 30 years of futility. I’m glad Dolson appears to be shooting his shot by aiming for the moon. 

[go iu bb 8,111]

6 minutes ago, TrueHoosier62 said:

Nuh-uh. Thinking he would win 5 national championships his first season at IU isn't unrealistic. He's that good.

[Bowhunter 3,029]

Brad Stevens is over qualified. The only worry would be him leaving for the NBA front office . I’d take 4 years of him over settling on another Archie Orr Woody.

[go iu bb 8,111]

4 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Brad Stevens is over qualified. The only worry would be him leaving for the NBA front office . I’d take 4 years of him over settling on another Archie Orr Woody.

This matches up with this rumor I just made up that Stevens wanted the IU job and tried to get it. Dolson responded with something along the lines of "Thanks for the interest in this position but we've decided to go in another direction since we found you to be overqualified based on the submitted resume. We feel this position wouldn't be challenging enough. Thank you for your interest, best regards."

[RaceToTheTop 29,161]

38 minutes ago, TrueHoosier62 said:

I hope that in the unlikely event we hire Brad Stevens, we aren't treated to the coaching version of Damon Bailey, where expectations are just too unrealistic. Can you imagine the mess that would create for Dolsen and everyone else who signed off on it, or the impact it would have on future candidates?

[MrBBall 731]

43 minutes ago, TrueHoosier62 said:

I hope that in the unlikely event we hire Brad Stevens, we aren't treated to the coaching version of Damon Bailey, where expectations are just too unrealistic. Can you imagine the mess that would create for Dolsen and everyone else who signed off on it, or the impact it would have on future candidates?

Boy would be such a mess. I couldn’t take it really. A blue blood with big expectations. Tough gig 

[HoosierFan1994 4,989]

The more I think about it, I don't think it's going to be Brad Brownell. Said many times so far I think he is the "Porter Moser" of the search. (IF you don't remember in 2021 Moser's name was thrown around quite a bit during the home stretch of the search). I don't know about McCollum. Either he's the guy or it's a smokescreen for somebody. Goodman and Osterman have also been throwing around his name. Osterman mentioned him on a podcast and Goodman predicted McCollum on the F68 podcast today. You don't have to like Goodman but that dude knows stuff. 

Part of me thinks Dolson has someone nobody is even talking about (maybe a former D2 coach in Indiana..I don't think he is realistic) or has already been "eliminated" from consideration (Drew, Beard...NO, NOT Stevens). I feel this search has been pretty quiet compared to the 2017 and 2021 ones. 

 

[Stuhoo 86,537]

2 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

The more I think about it, I don't think it's going to be Brad Brownell. Said many times so far I think he is the "Porter Moser" of the search. (IF you don't remember in 2021 Moser's name was thrown around quite a bit during the home stretch of the search). I don't know about McCollum. Either he's the guy or it's a smokescreen for somebody. Goodman and Osterman have also been throwing around his name. Osterman mentioned him on a podcast and Goodman predicted McCollum on the F68 podcast today. You don't have to like Goodman but that dude knows stuff. 

Part of me thinks Dolson has someone nobody is even talking about (maybe a former D2 coach in Indiana..I don't think he is realistic) or has already been "eliminated" from consideration (Drew, Beard...NO, NOT Stevens). I feel this search has been pretty quiet compared to the 2017 and 2021 ones. 

 

I also do not think it will be Brownell.

[Hoosierfan1901 7,611]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

I also do not think it will be Brownell.

I also, unfortunately for me, do not think it will be Larry Brown.

[HoosierHoopster 7,733]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

I also do not think it will be Brownell.

I also do not think it will be Stevens 

:)

[MrBBall 731]

12 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

The more I think about it, I don't think it's going to be Brad Brownell. Said many times so far I think he is the "Porter Moser" of the search. (IF you don't remember in 2021 Moser's name was thrown around quite a bit during the home stretch of the search). I don't know about McCollum. Either he's the guy or it's a smokescreen for somebody. Goodman and Osterman have also been throwing around his name. Osterman mentioned him on a podcast and Goodman predicted McCollum on the F68 podcast today. You don't have to like Goodman but that dude knows stuff. 

Part of me thinks Dolson has someone nobody is even talking about (maybe a former D2 coach in Indiana..I don't think he is realistic) or has already been "eliminated" from consideration (Drew, Beard...NO, NOT Stevens). I feel this search has been pretty quiet compared to the 2017 and 2021 ones. 

 

Would be a shame to have Jerry stuck in the gag order room for ******* Brownell. Haha

[JustWinBaby 679]

1 hour ago, JustWinBaby said:

The vast majority of chatter and leaks come from the agent world. Brad Stevens' agent is his wife. So the circle of people involved in any deal that he might make is naturally going to be very tight; only his immediate family may know of his actual intentions.

When Brad was hired by the Celtics in 2013, it was a shocking move that no one saw coming. Zero leaks until well after the ink was dry.

In 2021 when Danny Ainge announced his retirement and that Brad would be his replacement, it again shocked the basketball world as no one saw it coming.

Every time Brad Stevens has made a major career move, it has happened under complete radio silence and without any leaks, in large part due to the fact that he's able to keep his circle extremely tight.

IF (and it's a big if) he were to come to IU, especially considering how high-profile this search has been, it's likely that such a move would follow the same pattern as his past career moves -- with a shocking announcement that catches everyone off guard.

I am not sure how to factor in every other data point (his statement to Goodman, the rumors from insiders with donor sources, etc). I'm just spitballing. I admit that I know nothing and am simply trying to read the tea leaves. But I do think looking at his past career moves is a fairly logical way to try to anticipate how a future move might go down.

I realize I’m quoting my own post but bear with me.

This search has objectively been very strange and made little to no sense by most metrics. By this point, we generally would have heard a lot of noise about which coaches had been contacted, with most such info coming via the agent world. Instead we have heard almost nothing.

What little chatter there has been does not add up either. We apparently vetted Beard and moved on. And we apparently have looked at McCollum and Brownell. There are rumors that we spoke with Drew and Otzelberger, but again those rumors are without substantiation.

The belief from those adjacent to the program (donors and such) is that Dolson has his guy (some have named him – Stevens – and others have not). And Rabjohns has confirmed that he has a donor source that has repeatedly told him that IU has their guy (Stevens, specifically). But Rabjohns does not believe it to be true. What he’s basing that on is not clear.

To sum up, what leads me to personally believe that Dolson does in fact have his guy (that guy being Brad Stevens) is the following:

1) We seem to have not made any strong pushes for other coaches. Perhaps McCollum, but even then if that’s the only coach we’ve truly pursued, then that simply doesn’t add up. Why wouldn’t we even give someone like Will Wade a look, for instance? Compare this to other schools’ recent coaching searches, such as NC State – where it became very evident early on that they were pursuing Ryan Odom and Will Wade. As far as we know, Indiana is not currently pursuing anyone.

2) I don’t believe Dolson would have been able to force out Woodson if he did not have a clear path to a significantly better replacement already in place. If it is true that we are getting Brad Stevens, he would’ve had to have been working that angle for months if not years and have some sort of understanding between the two of them in place long before now. And he would’ve had to have had something concrete to show the decision-makers and administrators that he had something in the works.

3) Those connected to donors are hearing that we have our guy, and have had him from the beginning. Dolson would’ve had to rally together funding for a major hire of this magnitude, so it makes perfect sense that a certain group of donors are in the know. This does not prove anything, but it’s merely another data point.

4) The Cody Zeller thing is interesting as well; there was a rumor not long ago that he was joining IU in a sort of GM/front office capacity, as part of a deal to bring Stevens here. If anyone recalls, Brad recruited Cody heavily out of high school, and nearly landed him. The two have maintained a good relationship over the course of their NBA careers, so this rumor makes perfect sense. And then Zeller starts showing up at HS games and then is seated behind the bench at the IU-Washington game. Then it comes out the next day that Houston waived him. And the rumors swirl that he’s being hired by IU. And it all begins to add up that maybe, just maybe the Brad Stevens and Cody Zeller rumor was true? I realize this one is a bit of a stretch, but again I’m just trying to pool together data points.

5) Add in everything I mentioned in the above quoted comment, and I think we have a fairly compelling case to believe that there really is something in the works behind the scenes with Brad Stevens. I could be completely wrong and look stupid whenever our new coach is announced. But I do think that there are a lot of genuine reasons to believe there’s something happening here. The general silence around this coaching search only fuels the speculation further, and in my opinion points towards Stevens.

Sorry for the super long post!