General Coach Candidate News

[TTT 1,382]

Just now, Ghost of Rick Majerus said:

I think he would kill it here. 

In addition he is a people person.  He is smart and interesting when he talks.

[Pagoda 4,833]

Just now, Scotty R said:

The last few years I stayed part of the problem in our coaching searches are because of the fan base. Our fan base is great but also can be a hindrance as well.

I see posters say certain candidates can't handle the demands and stress of this job. My question what makes our job more demanding and stressful than other top jobs. On the court basketball is basketball no matter where you are at. So the only thing that could make it more demanding is the off the court stuff and isn't part of that is the fan base high expectations and wanting the coach to be out there in the public eye.

I am not saying it is the only problem but we need to look at ourselves in the mirror and see that we might be a small part of the problem getting better coaches to come here

 That plus that top coaches don't leave their current jobs

 

Other big programs have big fanbases too and they manage to do well.  The fan stuff is an excuse.  The fanbase is a big, big net positive.

Even if our fans were an issue, what should we do?  Have Scott and Pam somehow reach out to over a million people and tell them how to act?  Shutdown all our forums?  Somehow shrink interest in IUBB so we are less scary?

A good coach will use our fanbase to his advantage with donations and great crowds that help win games.

[Hornsby 3,870]

If you gave any average coach 16 years at Clemson, he would likely have the same type of results Brownell has had.
53% conference win percentage, 60% overall.
4 NCAA Tournament appearances with 2 Sweet 16s and 1 Elite 8.
That's nothing special at all. Certainly nothing there to indicate he's going to have greater success with greater resources.

Especially when people trash Cronin as average. Cronin is far better than ole-what’s-eez-name imo.

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[Certified Sunshine Pumper 12,111]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

If he really hired ole-what’s-eez-name dolson isn't the genius everyone says he is. I always joked we would end up with ole-what’s-eez-name but never thought dolson was really that crazy.

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this will be Dolson's 2nd most important hire ;)

[Kentuckysucks 4,332]

2 minutes ago, TTT said:

And after Indiana State Josh Schertz in year one under the radar…St Louis 2024-2025 18 wins 13 losses (while dealing with a couple player injuries) after St Louis basketball 2023-2024 season 13 wins 20 losses.

Would be a million x's better than Brownell.  I'd be fine with that hire.

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1 minute ago, Artie86 said:

I'm just hoping you were told to be quiet because of the recent Stevens to IU activity. One can only hope.

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11 minutes ago, TadQueasy said:

The only thing that gives me hope at this point is I just cannot fathom Dolson tying his tenure to Brownell.   The Cig love/support is only going to carry him so far.  Eventually he has to get this basketball program fixed or his tenure will be a failure.  And I am confident he knows this.  

And Cig had the advantage of IU's football schedule being VERY favorable last season. I'm not saying he isn't a very good coach, because obviously he is.

But last season isn't necessarily going to be repeated, so Dolson can't bank on that (literally)...

[Hoosierfan2017 25,038]

21 minutes ago, Ghost of Rick Majerus said:

Brownell is not at the top of my list by any means, but I don't understand the hate. 

Clemson isn't an easy place to win and during his time there, he competed against some really good ACC teams. His win percentage at Clemson is similar to that of Rick Barnes when he was there and Brownell has been there much longer. 

He is a good coach, you can't take that away from him and that is what we have sorely missed here the last 4 years. 

IU has had the worst 15 year stretch in its history. There’s absolutely no way Dolson can sell a hire who has made fewer tournaments than IU during that same stretch. Good coaches elevate their programs. Brownell hasn’t. 

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4 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I still think it's someone off the radar. McCasland, Few, Golden, etc.

We'd never touch Golden. 

[Hornsby 3,870]

His career as an AD will be judged on this hire. The Woodson hire didn't pan out, the Curt hire did. 

If he hires a mid-major coach, the fanbase is not going to be happy this off-season until they talk themselves into it. 

No we wouldn't be but happier than if he hired brad b. Brad b is about the worst hire he could make to make fans excited.

 

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[Trish 14,482]

Can we start the Jay Wright discussion? Now that's a homerun hire if we can convince him to come out of retirement. You can only golf for so long!

[Scotty R 3,766]

2 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Other big programs have big fanbases too and they manage to do well.  The fan stuff is an excuse.  The fanbase is a big, big net positive.

Even if our fans were an issue, what should we do?  Have Scott and Pam somehow reach out to over a million people and tell them how to act?  Shutdown all our forums?  Somehow shrink interest in IUBB so we are less scary?

A good coach will use our fanbase to his advantage with donations and great crowds that help win games.

All I have to say is how many coaches, administrators and presidents have we had the last 25 years. It is always their fault and most of it is their fault but I think the fans need to look at themselves and see we can do a better job of supporting the players and coaches.

[AZ Hoosier 10,997]

Well BUMP only one thing left to discuss as it pertains to Brad Stevens. What was the "reason" behind the No this go around ? 

Nope. If he’s out, I don’t care what happened. Or what never got started. Or where it fell apart. Time to move on.

[Capt. Crimson 3,983]

13 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

Zero shot it’s Brownell. Let’s be real.

Zero shot it's Woodson. Let's be real. 

[Alistair Smash 582]

12 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Yes foundation and Hoosier Connect because they expect donations to come in after the announcement. I’m going to verify it tomorrow at work. 

Chris, did you bother trying to verify this?

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1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

this will be Dolson's 2nd most important hire ;)

I would argue that it might be Dolson's most important hire. 

Yes, the football coach generates the most income, but Woodson was hired by Dolson. We can argue that he unofficially hired by Buckner, but on paper, he was brought in by Dolson. 

If he fails again, that's 2 bad selections in a row by Dolson at "flagship" sports position at IU.

I also think Cig has taken some of the pressure off of Dolson's hire of Woodson. If/When Cig's team starts to lose a few more games (as it will when it plays a tougher B1G schedule), more people are going to pay attention to Dolson's basketball coach selection(s).

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5 minutes ago, TTT said:

And after Indiana State Josh Schertz in year one under the radar…St Louis 2024-2025 18 wins 13 losses (while dealing with a couple player injuries) after St Louis basketball 2023-2024 season 13 wins 20 losses.

Shoulda added Shertz to my list - I could get behind any of these 4 -  Huss, McCollum, Devries, Shertz.

I'm honestly excited about this generation of up and comers - much more then the Mack, Cronin, Miller trio we had 2 searches ago - it very well could be my crimson colored glasses or recency bias but they just seem more prepared for the big stage.

[Ryno6284 4,476]

Let’s keep talking about Brownell…maybe talk ourselves right out of him being the coach! Lol

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Just now, Scotty R said:

All I have to say is how many coaches, administrators and presidents have we had the last 25 years. It is always their fault and most of it is their fault but I think the fans need to look at themselves and see we can do a better job of supporting the players and coaches.

Yes the people with actual job responsibilities that relate to IU being successful or not are, in fact, directly accountable for the program / University's performance. 

We have a pocket of fans, like almost every other major program, that go too far with poor behavior on social media. That's not why the program has been failing for two and a half decades. Those people will largely become a non-issue if a coach can win consistently. 

[Chris007 62,605]

Just now, Alistair Smash said:

Chris, did you bother trying to verify this?

I did and yes if they can work that week they would like them to be there. Some things are just not adding up yet. More checking. But I have to be at the golf course this afternoon. One last round with Woody :-)