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31 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:


Yeah, Woodson was so hard headed. He was doing things clearly wrong even I identified in year 1. Just basic stuff, lineup related. Analytic related. If we want to be top tier like Alabama, Duke, Etc, etc, etc you gotta have the talent and the coach. Painter is an incredible coach. Knows the Xs and Os with the best. He still gets great players. But he’s capped. He lucked into Edey being generationally elite. But he can’t recruit that level. If he did, he’d be top 10 every year. So, I want the XO guy for sure, but I want to still have a chance at top talent.


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He tried recruiting higher level talent. It didn't work out well for him because they didn't fit his system very well. So he started recruiting to his system and really started doing well.

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Instead of worrying about being able to get 5 star players I want a coach who can identify and develop talent that fits into his system. McCollum probably won't land many 5 stars at least at first but I would have confidence he can get guys who are a notch below them. I see no reason he couldn't get talent on the level of Purdue right now those players would fit McCollum's system.

I don't look at all the advance metrics but some math guy at IU guy said the lineup of 1 big with Goode,Leal, Galloway and Rice has a better offensive rating than Duke has. I guess what I am saying is that you don't have to have a roster of 5 star players to be effective.

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21 minutes ago, BGleas said:

That's what I thought, but wasn't sure. 

Just one example, but I think it supports the theory that if you can coach, you can coach. The other stuff can be figured out, especially with resources. 

Yea, I remember Alabama fans being very unhappy with the hire and thought he would fail in 2 years.

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33 minutes ago, Josh said:

I only hate people i know. And Archie Miller.  And everybody on this board who called me names because I hated Archie Miller because they thought that they were so smart.

Damn, that is a lot of people I guess 

In my defense.....I wasn't on this board when Miller got hired. Also I think despite my childish behavior with some posters, I've never had any kind of hullabaloo with you.

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13 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

He tried recruiting higher level talent. It didn't work out well for him because they didn't fit his system very well. So he started recruiting to his system and really started doing well.

I agree he has a system players do need to fit in.  Some of our players wouldn’t last a day there.  

I do notice that Painter goes after top players though, he just can’t afford them with PU’s mid-NIL. I also know he is always pushing for more NIL.  Sometimes he puts out a narrative  to mask some of their recruiting struggles.  He would take a few 5*s if he could get them.

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35 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I wonder about McC's ability to go into living rooms or a Montverde (purely an example) and recruit high 4 and 5-star talent.  But it's not like Mike Woodson was a champion recruiter.  If it is to be McC, then who be puts on his staff and their recruiting connections will be very critical IMO.

Good thing is that's not nearly as important as it used to be.  He still needs to recruit the portal kids, weed out those who just want a payday vs those who will buyin.  Thats what plagued Woodson. 

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21 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

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Billy D looks ready to come to Bloomington.

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I've sat in almost that exact same spot for a Bulls/Pacers game and was very close to asking if the tickets were available for tonight... could have traded IU coaching conspiracy theories during the game.

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58 minutes ago, GP711 said:

Benny Mac is a backup plan, however he would rather Iowa and I would expect Iowa to open this year. But if the search made it past the person/people we think it shouldn’t, hard telling if he turns down IU money

Rumor is Fran may go to Penn

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