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Just now, Hornsby said:

Bronwell would be on the level of a woodson hire

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Woodson's head coaching career ended in 2014 before IU was dumb enough to come calling.

I want absolutely no part of seeing Brownell fail here, but it's pretty hard to be on the level of Woodson.

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43 minutes ago, Sobchak_Security said:

Here’s my question, if this has been done for awhile why are they still vetting people?

Backup in case brad gets cold feet. And if not was vetted, how did we go from “beard is now an option” to “he was vetted and they are moving on” in 2 hours??? 
 

nice one Rabby

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Just now, MrBBall said:

Backup in case brad gets cold feet. And if not was vetted, how did we go from “beard is now an option” to “he was vetted and they are moving on” in 2 hours??? 
 

nice one Rabby

Well, by definition, if Brad could still get cold feet then it's not a "done deal."

If we're still vetting candidates at this point, then that's not a good sign, given that we've been told Dolson has been in search mode for over a year. 

 

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At this point if we can't get a big name I would rather take McCollum rather than hire someone like Brownell. 

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1 hour ago, IU - Kaulie said:

The silence from some of the insiders on BTB is deafening. Everyone just needs to chill.

we gonna run it back, too, Trey?

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3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

we gonna run it back, too, Trey?

 

[steubenhoosier 1,554]

Been thinking about this for a minute. If Tier 1 and 2 guys are all a hard “no”… just hear me out.

Chris Collins was raised by a very successful NBA coach.

Chris Collins played for an all-time great coach at Duke. He learned about winning, and was surrounded by winners. He was also that timeframe’s “player you hated most.” He would bring that toughness mentality we have been missing. Remember just a couple of seasons back when his backcourt was top notch defensively.

Chris Collins has won at a place that historically never wins. He’s had to build teams while dealing with the academic restrictions that the university prides itself on.He has had little NIL support, and until recently, had to recruit players to play in a glorified high school gymnasium.

Chris Collins is pretty smart guy. Duke has fairly high academic standards as well. I think he would be able to handle the fish bowl that is IU basketball.

I would take Collins over McCollum , Schertz, Brownell, or several other of the tier 3-4 guys that have been mentioned here. The only other guy I might take above Collins is McDermott, however the age difference favors Collins.

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19 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I'll be interested to see how boy wonder mccollum does in the tourney vs a big name team

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So we are going to judge his ability when his 11 seed team half full of D2 players goes against a 6 seed?

Truth is whether he wins or not, it's a one game snapshot.

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3 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

would take Collins over McCollum , Schertz, Brownell, or several other of the tier 3-4 guys that have been mentioned here. The only other guy I might take above Collins is McDermott, however the age difference favors Collins.

Collins should be tier 2 at the least.   He would do good at IU in my opinion 

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1 hour ago, Tony! Toni! Toné! said:

I like your style Stu. To clarify this GIF was me nodding in agreement to your post. Far from irrelevant. In fact I’d argue none of my visuals have been irrelevant. In fact I’ve tried to convey to the group what information I’ve been provided.  

Some post long missives to make their point. Totally fine. I prefer pop culture visuals to espouse mine..

No wonder I never get these. Anyone have a pop culture translator app for this almost boomer lol

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3 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Been thinking about this for a minute. If Tier 1 and 2 guys are all a hard “no”… just hear me out.

Chris Collins was raised by a very successful NBA coach.

Chris Collins played for an all-time great coach at Duke. He learned about winning, and was surrounded by winners. He was also that timeframe’s “player you hated most.” He would bring that toughness mentality we have been missing. Remember just a couple of seasons back when his backcourt was top notch defensively.

Chris Collins has won at a place that historically never wins. He’s had to build teams while dealing with the academic restrictions that the university prides itself on.He has had little NIL support, and until recently, had to recruit players to play in a glorified high school gymnasium.

Chris Collins is pretty smart guy. Duke has fairly high academic standards as well. I think he would be able to handle the fish bowl that is IU basketball.

I would take Collins over McCollum , Schertz, Brownell, or several other of the tier 3-4 guys that have been mentioned here. The only other guy I might take above Collins is McDermott, however the age difference favors Collins.

I’m right there with ya but he’s a Chicago guy , and just making the tourney is extension / raise worthy season at NW . I would guess he’s pretty happy being at home with little to no expectations. 
 

but yes I think with IUs resources he would kill especially as I’ve said before recruiting the state of Indiana he’s already found a couple of gems (Barnhizer , McIntosh, and now Windham ) 

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I personally would not take Collins over McCollum. Just my two cents.

Collins is a good coach and has done pretty well with the hand he’s been dealt at Northwestern. But he’s not massively exceeded any expectations.

McCollum has done that and more at every stop he’s had. The ceiling is much higher with him.

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What happened to dolson has his guy?

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1 hour ago, Tony! Toni! Toné! said:

I like your style Stu. To clarify this GIF was me nodding in agreement to your post. Far from irrelevant. In fact I’d argue none of my visuals have been irrelevant. In fact I’ve tried to convey to the group what information I’ve been provided.  

Some post long missives to make their point. Totally fine. I prefer pop culture visuals to espouse mine..

I like your style 

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1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

What happened to dolson has his guy?

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That’s something a taxi driver overheard.

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19 minutes ago, Demo said:

This McCollum pace of play stuff is killing me. On 3 viewings of Drake I’m guessing he’s probably a 65 possession guy, something like that. Someone less lazy than I am is welcome to check me on that. So he’s not Nate Oats. But I guarantee that Matt Painter and Dan Hurley are sub-70 possession guys. Average fans couldn’t tell the difference between 65 and 70 possessions if their lives depended on it. Aesthetically pleasing offense has zero to do with pace and everything to do with the quality of shots you’re generating. You run a 26 sec possession with crisp ball movement that results in your guy burying an open 3 and someone’s trying to me tell that’s boring? Then you’re not a basketball fan. Find me a guy with a vision of how to play who knows to recruit to it and teach it and dude is gonna win here.

They are last in D1 with 62.1 possessions per game. Purdue & UConn both average about 68 per game, as you said. ILL & KY average 74, MI 73.3. IU 71,1

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/possessions-per-game

 

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1 hour ago, Trish said:

Moving on from Woodson, the candidate needs to have a name that gets the Boosters out of bed. 

I bet Dolson did.  I posted weeks ago, I think he rounded up support & big $$ & thought he’d get his man, thus all of the posts from Jerry, RTZ, Chris, etc.  But he missed again & a bunch of the people that were sharing info early on were counting their money still sitting at the table so to speak, & now he’s trying to push Beard because he’s proper screwed.  Just conjecture though.

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3 hours ago, Hornsby said:

I really don't get the mccollum love given our current situation. I also don't get people seeming convinced he would win here after what we saw with archie. Are people just blinded by cig and think mccollum is cig no matter what

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For me it's about his resume. He has rings, wins, and doesn't have any down years.  It's way more impressive than Archie and believe it or not, Coach Cig as well.

His point guard production from his system reminds me of the three titles Knight won. It's still a point guard game in college.  Has been for decades. Wherever he ends up, point guards will consider playing for him.

I was at the UE v Drake this year and his team had an off night but they were still the most cerebral team on the court.  Each player knew their role.  They didn't take dumb shots and played as a team.  I haven't seen team basketball out of Bloomington in a long long time. 

The next IUBB won't need years to get a winning product on the court because a coach can build his team through transfers on year one.

Having said all of this, I still think IU is a job coveted among the coaching circles. The resources alone is extremely attractive for a coach.  So I don't think he will get hired here. But I do think he'll be a successful coach wherever he ends up. He's already successfully proving he can quickly transition into D1 by recoding the most wins in the entire country. 

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3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

What happened to dolson has his guy?

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Something obviously came out of left field again.  No one could've seen it coming.  Caught everyone by surprise.

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17 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Been thinking about this for a minute. If Tier 1 and 2 guys are all a hard “no”… just hear me out.

Chris Collins was raised by a very successful NBA coach.

Chris Collins played for an all-time great coach at Duke. He learned about winning, and was surrounded by winners. He was also that timeframe’s “player you hated most.” He would bring that toughness mentality we have been missing. Remember just a couple of seasons back when his backcourt was top notch defensively.

Chris Collins has won at a place that historically never wins. He’s had to build teams while dealing with the academic restrictions that the university prides itself on.He has had little NIL support, and until recently, had to recruit players to play in a glorified high school gymnasium.

Chris Collins is pretty smart guy. Duke has fairly high academic standards as well. I think he would be able to handle the fish bowl that is IU basketball.

I would take Collins over McCollum , Schertz, Brownell, or several other of the tier 3-4 guys that have been mentioned here. The only other guy I might take above Collins is McDermott, however the age difference favors Collins.

I'm with you on this.