IUBtown Posted March 9 Posted March 9 20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Just stop with that crap. I have been skeptical of McCollum’s D1 inexperience too, but I also realize that every Hall of Fame coach started out inexperienced and no two coaches are alike. McCollum is clearly no guarantee, but for better or worse he’s not Archie. My worry of McCollum. In his entire basketball career, playing and coaching, Drake is the biggest school/program he has been around in his lifetime. It's not like he played or was an assistant for a high major and got to see what it's like running a program of that magnitude. That's my major concern. Hoosier987, IU Prof, lillurk and 1 other 3 1
mdiu28 Posted March 9 Posted March 9 Just now, IUBtown said: My worry of McCollum. In his entire basketball career, playing and coaching, Drake is the biggest school/program he has been around in his lifetime. It's not like he played or was an assistant for a high major and got to see what it's like running a program of that magnitude. That's my major concern. Mine as well. He wins there's no doubt. But we've gone the up and comer route and they've all proven unable to handle being the head coach at Indiana. It's a risk and we have to stop that ****. Hire a proven winner who's been at big boy programs for the majority of their careers. Hornsby 1
Unexpectedflash Posted March 9 Posted March 9 1 minute ago, mdiu28 said: Mine as well. He wins there's no doubt. But we've gone the up and comer route and they've all proven unable to handle being the head coach at Indiana. It's a risk and we have to stop that ****. Hire a proven winner who's been at big boy programs for the majority of their careers. That sounds great in theory but how many coaches are out there that fit that criteria and are willing to leave. Just because Archie didn’t work out doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take another swing at an up and comer jrvarner31 1
HoosierMatty Posted March 9 Posted March 9 I think IU needs a brilliant tactician. Someone with a solid system and philosophy They don't have to be a Calipari bull **** artist to get recruits in today's game with NIL and revenue share. And honestly whoever is the coach we need to hire a GM to help with the portal. I would say anyone who takes the job and puts in the hard work immediately has an edge instate recruiting. The other aspect is personality and engagement with fans that's expected at a place like IU. I think as long as they can do that they don't have to be a big name or win the press conference. Which why if we strike out on the top names, and Beard isn't touchable,a McCollum hire might make a lot of sense. Yes it's a big risk but it can have a ton of upside. Ctf9, jrvarner31, P92 and 2 others 5
IUguy77 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 27 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Just stop with that crap. I have been skeptical of McCollum’s D1 inexperience too, but I also realize that every Hall of Fame coach started out inexperienced and no two coaches are alike. McCollum is clearly no guarantee, but for better or worse he’s not Archie. Exactly. Where do people get the Archie had amazing resume? He won conference outright once and tied for first another time. He won less than 70 percent of his games at Dayton. McCollum has won 82 percent of his games over 15 years. Won his conference 11 times and won national title 4 times. Yea it was D2 but if it so easy how come everyone doesn’t do it. The guy knows how to win ball games plain and simple. And he’s capable of adjusting. RoadRage, Shoes_N_Shorts and BannerVille 3
mdiu28 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Unexpectedflash said: That sounds great in theory but how many coaches are out there that fit that criteria and are willing to leave. Just because Archie didn’t work out doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take another swing at an up and comer Chris Beard (I know, let's not make this an argument), Chris Collins (go ahead and tell me he's mediocre. Was at Duke forever and guess what? No one wins at Northwestern), Will Wade, Buzz Williams, Mick Cronin, Greg McDermott. Give me any one of those guys over McCollum and I'm not crazy about any of those guys. steubenhoosier and IUBtown 2
Shoes_N_Shorts Posted March 10 Posted March 10 8 minutes ago, IUBtown said: My worry of McCollum. In his entire basketball career, playing and coaching, Drake is the biggest school/program he has been around in his lifetime. It's not like he played or was an assistant for a high major and got to see what it's like running a program of that magnitude. That's my major concern. This is true, but all he’s done is win 90% of his games with the move up. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck… (not a Dana Altman reference)
Ctf9 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I understand the recent history—it’s hard even for a blue blood to hire a sitting P5 coach. (Let’s not forget that Texas did it by hiring Beard.) The optimist’s take is NIL and revenue sharing have changed the rules. The pessimist’s take is that they haven’t changed the rules that much—and also that Dolson has a fetish for experience and older coaches. This is what worries me the most: if he’s always been set on a “veteran” head coach and misses on the good ones, he might just hire a Brownell because it matches his “criteria” or something. And that is also what makes Goodman’s tweet so concerning. The more good established coaches say no, the higher the odds Dolson will stubbornly hire a mediocre established coach. Kentuckysucks and Silat Player 2
P92 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Actually, IU is waiting on the BS announcement until this thread hits 2000 pages. Hoosierfanyuh and Chris007 1 1
Popular Post IUHAHN81 Posted March 10 Popular Post Posted March 10 19 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: https://x.com/mediarowpod/status/1898512047958110284?s=46 We all know BS is my 1st choice but im not gonna lie, I like what he says there A LOT! To me that's what IU was under Bob. Tough, good character kids. Anyway, I really like his mindset in that clip. NCHoosier, cybergates, Hoosierinbham and 5 others 8
Unexpectedflash Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Just now, mdiu28 said: Chris Beard (I know, let's not make this an argument), Chris Collins (go ahead and tell me he's mediocre. Was at Duke forever and guess what? No one wins at Northwestern), Will Wade, Buzz Williams, Mick Cronin, Greg McDermott. Give me any one of those guys over McCollum and I'm not crazy about any of those guys. The only one of those likely to leave are Will wade and beard and sure I’d take them over McCollum but there’s obviously other factors involved. Saying you’d rather have Collins who has 37% conference win percentage over McCollum seems silly but that’s just one guys opinion
Artie86 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 53 minutes ago, HoosierSadaseci said: Who says he doesn't?... Who says he has to tell us right now? ;) HoosierSadaseci and IUHAHN81 1 1
Unexpectedflash Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I’m not even the biggest McCollum fan. Right now he has zero committed recruits. I know people bring up he’s winning with D2 players but those D2 players have been in his system for a long time. We’ve yet to see him have to recruit and replace players at this level. Despite that id still take him over Collin or brownell. Those two have shown they’re mediocre at this level VFury, Hoosierfanyuh and 8bucks 3
Popular Post IUguy77 Posted March 10 Popular Post Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said: We all know BS is my 1st choice but im not gonna lie, I like what he says there A LOT! To me that's what IU was under Bob. Tough, good character kids. Anyway, I really like his mindset in that clip. If it ain’t Steven’s then sign me up for McCollum. Chris007, IUHAHN81, jrvarner31 and 5 others 7 1
IUBtown Posted March 10 Posted March 10 3 minutes ago, Shoes_N_Shorts said: This is true, but all he’s done is win 90% of his games with the move up. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck… (not a Dana Altman reference) I dunno he's made one move up, after 14years in D2. Drake to Indiana is a lot bigger than NE Missouri st to Drake.
IU5355 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, IUHAHN81 said: We all know BS is my 1st choice but im not gonna lie, I like what he says there A LOT! To me that's what IU was under Bob. Tough, good character kids. Anyway, I really like his mindset in that clip. I agree with you. He has a recipe that wins and the man flat out can coach and develop players. At the end of the day, that is what matters most. I would be thrilled with him. IUHAHN81 1
Hoosierfanyuh Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I like McCollum but IUBB is not in the state for taking risks. I know there’s a lot to like but there’s a lot to be skeptical about as well IUHAHN81, Hornsby, Kentuckysucks and 3 others 6
Popular Post BehindTheBench Posted March 10 Popular Post Posted March 10 Stay the course, we’re good Artie86, BH33, RaceToTheTop and 23 others 19 6 1
IUHAHN81 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Just now, BehindTheBench said: Stay the course, we’re good Please be right! Lol! Chris007 and HoosierInParadise 2
mdiu28 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Just now, Unexpectedflash said: The only one of those likely to leave are Will wade and beard and sure I’d take them over McCollum but there’s obviously other factors involved. Saying you’d rather have Collins who has 37% conference win percentage over McCollum seems silly but that’s just one guys opinion AT NORTHWESTERN. Didn't hear me, I'll say it again. NORTHWESTERN. It's basically Saturday Night Live with a basketball team in one of the toughest conferences in college basketball. No top recruit goes to Northwestern. The students are total dorks. Do they even have NIL? This Chris Collins is a mediocre coach purely bc he hasn't won big at NW is laughable. The only argument against him is no one else has hired him. Give him resources and a school that cares and who knows. steubenhoosier, IUHAHN81 and lillurk 3
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