Scotty R Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, btownqb said: IU Scott, because he is good. That's why. He should not be coming off the bench for a team that needs quickness, perimeter D, and someone to create for others. Him improving in the off season is the upgrade. He would have to improve a lot for me to want him in the starting lineup. He is to limited on the offensive end where it is just a catch and shoot from 3 or a floater. He isn't capable as of right now to create a shot for himself. You can't have him have the ball at the end of the clock and expect him to hit a tough pull up jumper. To me with how hard he plays it is better to have him play less minutes so he can play all out every second he is on the court. Every good team needs a guy who comes off the bench to energizes the team. Chris007, GoIU8 and bird4par 3 Quote
HoosierFan1994 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Malik Reneau is a 5 on offense and a 4 on defense. Kel'el Ware is a 4 on offense and a 5 on defense. Chris Ledlum is a 3 in P5 basketball. He can play with the ball in his hands, move laterally, and get to the rim better than our 3 the last two years, MK, will have been able to. He needs to be a threat from three point range; that will be the challenge for him this summer. Well said. When you watch Ledlum on film, he's a three. He for sure needs to get that three point percentage up. Quote
go iu bb Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 54 minutes ago, Scotty R said: I don't know why people are do enamored with Galloway being in the starting lineup. To me if we see him starting next year that is not a great sign for us to be a great team. On a great team he should be coming off the bench as your 7-8 guy. We just have to upgrade positions 2-4 because last year that was this teams down fall. If we don't upgrade those position from last year then we won't be as good as last year. Galloway is good. I wouldn't mind at all if he comes off the bench as it would be a good sign that the team is talented and has at least a bit of depth. You're crazy if you think he should be the 7-8th player. He would be the first off the bench and would give IU the best 6th man in the conference, probably by a good margin. Galloway has also been steadily improving season to season. No reason to think that doesn't happen again since he obviously puts in the work. BannerVille, AZ Hoosier, ALASKA HOOSIER and 1 other 4 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Scotty R said: He would have to improve a lot for me to want him in the starting lineup. He is to limited on the offensive end where it is just a catch and shoot from 3 or a floater. He isn't capable as of right now to create a shot for himself. You can't have him have the ball at the end of the clock and expect him to hit a tough pull up jumper. To me with how hard he plays it is better to have him play less minutes so he can play all out every second he is on the court. Every good team needs a guy who comes off the bench to energizes the team. A lot? hmmm Quote
Popular Post Chris007 Posted April 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, bigrod said: I was just getting ready to post something similar. I'm not against him starting if he improves offensively and can average more like 10-12 ppg., but I like him coming off the bench to provide a spark. I agree. If we want to compete at a high level he is not a starter for me. Just way too inconsistent. But I think he will improve, just think he brings more coming off the bench than starting. bird4par, JaybobHoosier, Scotty R and 6 others 9 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, go iu bb said: Galloway is good. I wouldn't mind at all if he comes off the bench as it would be a good sign that the team is talented and has at least a bit of depth. You're crazy if you think he should be the 7-8th player. He would be the first off the bench and would give IU the best 6th man in the conference, probably by a good margin. Galloway has also been steadily improving season to season. No reason to think that doesn't happen again since he obviously puts in the work. He would be the first guard wing off the bench but I would say you would have a big be the first sub off the bench. Chris007 and NVFalcons1990 2 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: A lot? hmmm Offensively, yes Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Scotty R said: He would be the first guard wing off the bench but I would say you would have a big be the first sub off the bench. Jesus. How many bigs are we playing at a time!?! XJ better be ready for some SERIOUS usage. thebigweave and BGleas 2 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, Scotty R said: Offensively, yes Not a chance if you add Knecht and Ledlum. Quote
Chris007 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 46 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said: Yes, this. I am surprised more don’t feel this way. I think it is obvious . Then Sparks for Malik and Deloach for Ware. You lose some 3p threat at the time but D is solid and still have a post with a guy who can pick and roll, slash/drive, etc I know you think DeLoach is still possible here but I would be very surprised if we see him on campus this weekend. CSP, bigrod, BannerVille and 2 others 5 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chris007 said: I agree. If we want to compete at a high level he is not a starter for me. Just way too inconsistent. But I think he will improve, just think he brings more coming off the bench than starting. He does disappear to often in the game and isn't aggressive enough offensively. Chris007 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 You can not stress enough what having a big who shoots even 30% can do for your team offensively if they are capable of getting to the rim as well. Ledlum and Ware both can. Race Thompson couldn’t. Even if Race shot 30% from deep, no one was worried about him cutting to the hoop. He was a post up or pop guy only. NVFalcons1990, Ngw7183, Chris007 and 3 others 6 Quote
rcbowla Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 He would have to improve a lot for me to want him in the starting lineup. He is to limited on the offensive end where it is just a catch and shoot from 3 or a floater. He isn't capable as of right now to create a shot for himself. You can't have him have the ball at the end of the clock and expect him to hit a tough pull up jumper. To me with how hard he plays it is better to have him play less minutes so he can play all out every second he is on the court. Every good team needs a guy who comes off the bench to energizes the team.I agree with this except I see him as your 6th man not 7/8. He is the most versatile player, as far as position, on the team. So I think he is the first one in unless matchups with bigs dictates otherwise in the instance a big gets 2 quick fouls.Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk Stuhoo, BannerVille, NVFalcons1990 and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Scotty R Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: Not a chance if you add Knecht and Ledlum. If we get both of them then the starters will be XJ / Cupp Knecht / Galloway Ledlum / Newton Reneau /Banks Ware /Sparks If we want to improve on last year we have to upgrade the positions of 2-4 and get players who are better than Galloway, Kopp and Race. NVFalcons1990, jbeaman9 and Chris007 3 Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Scotty R said: If we get both of them then the starters will be XJ Knecht Ledlum Reneau Ware If we want to improve on last year we have to upgrade the positions of 2-4 and get players who are better than Galloway, Kopp and Race. I've mentioned... not a fan of that lineup.... unless Knecht is like a god and can create. And if he is THAT good, why wouldn't he already be headed to the NBA. But, if I'm XJ... I'm not a fan of that lineup. NVFalcons1990, BGleas and Banksyrules 1 2 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Scotty R said: If we get both of them then the starters will be XJ Knecht Ledlum Reneau Ware If we want to improve on last year we have to upgrade the positions of 2-4 and get players who are better than Galloway, Kopp and Race. With Gallo as the 20 minute+ backup at the 1, 2, and 3. CJ Gunn at the 2, 3 Kaleb Banks at the 3, 4 Payton Sparks at the 4, 5, Gabe Cupps at the 1 WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
ib4iu Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Scotty R said: If we get both of them then the starters will be XJ Knecht Ledlum Reneau Ware If we want to improve on last year we have to upgrade the positions of 2-4 and get players who are better than Galloway, Kopp and Race. If X doesn’t get hurt Galloway isn’t a starter at all this past season and this isn’t even a discussion. We’d still be talking about how great of a spark he would be off the bench and his versatility would allow for a lot of lineup flexibility. thebigweave, NVFalcons1990, MemphisHoosier and 2 others 5 Quote
jbeaman9 Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: Right. Because we had an NBA lottery pick playing the 2 that could create for others. Can Knecht create for others, consistently? There are so many "what-ifs" or similar situations. If X plays all year, is JHS consistently creating for others or is his mentality different? How many high level games did we see with both X and JHS playing together at full health to be able to determine that? I don't think JHS is a high first rounder this year in the draft if X plays healthy all season. Quote
CSP Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, jbeaman9 said: There are so many "what-ifs" or similar situations. If X plays all year, is JHS consistently creating for others or is his mentality different? How many high level games did we see with both X and JHS playing together at full health to be able to determine that? I don't think JHS is a high first rounder this year in the draft if X plays healthy all season. I do. and crazy more efficient. NVFalcons1990, MemphisHoosier, go iu bb and 3 others 6 Quote
HoosierHoopster Posted April 11, 2023 Posted April 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, rcs29 said: I agree with this except I see him as your 6th man not 7/8. He is the most versatile player, as far as position, on the team. So I think he is the first one in unless matchups with bigs dictates otherwise in the instance a big gets 2 quick fouls. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk 100%. No way is Gallo a 7 or 8 guy. I'm also in the camp that thinks that for IU to contend at the top, we need to improve our scoring and guard play and Gallo, as much as I like him (one of my favorites), is better suited to a 6th man role -- an excellent 6th man. Somewhat like a Sheehey. His outside shooting, though, improved significantly, his D and energy are usually top flight (though his aggressiveness still leads to quick fouls at time) -- first off the bench imo. Joe_hoopsier, ALASKA HOOSIER, NVFalcons1990 and 1 other 4 Quote
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