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2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'm still a bit sour about all of it.  

We've got tons of work to do to make ourselves relevant.  I'm not convinced its going to happen.  Let's see how this money spends..

Sparks is a feelgood story that might workout great.  I mean, what can you really expect if you are recruiting a transfer big that's likely slotted into the backup spot to begin with with a chance to earn more.  So it makes sense.  Good for him, good for us.  

BUT we need so much to be something more than and hope and a dream.  

Some of these transfer options are just bleh.  Was really hoping the staff had 2 or 3 aces up their sleeve but it's looking more like that isn't the case. 

I feel pretty good about Shedrick for some reason.  

But in general if you take a middling bench, with middling recruits, and middling transfers you are likely to expect middling results.  

OK let's pump some sunshine so Dr. Grump can turn his frown upside down.  LOL

 

 

This is why I like you Wayne, you drink the same beer as me and we’re both seeing the same bleh girl at the corner of the bar. 

Posted
32 minutes ago, hoosiersoxfan said:

Love is a shot chucker but a very talented player.  With the right coaching he could be as good as any college guard in the country.

He may be what we need….I feel like we have people who are to reluctant to shoot at times…he’s also a guy you can say, “ hey go get me a bucket” and he can do that….I’d be on board, but I understand he isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. I just think Woody is the type of coach than can harness him for the good.

Posted
26 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Oh man....Caleb Love? Really? I already made it clear I don't want him at IU, so for the many have mentioned something along the lines of "he just needs a firm hand to really shine" What is the rationale for that? Coping mechanism or is there evidence? Talk me into not HATING this potential development. He's the definition of a volume shooter- a poor one.

His career stats: 

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Isn't that their point? A firm hand would help reel him in. CMW has handled personalities/players traits much worse than Love's. 

Maybe it would work, maybe not, but copying and pasting his season averages isn't much of an argument either way. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Oh man....Caleb Love? Really? I already made it clear I don't want him at IU, so for the many have mentioned something along the lines of "he just needs a firm hand to really shine" What is the rationale for that? Coping mechanism or is there evidence? Talk me into not HATING this potential development. He's the definition of a volume shooter- a poor one.

His career stats: 

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Plus defender who would likely be placed every game on thd opponent’s best guard.  Yes, he has been a volume shooter who has not shot well…but there is a reason that Roy Williams started him as a freshman. 

Posted

say take four in the portal and sign Doubty from BD and red shirt him. 

Transfers 

Sparks, Ledlum, Sedrick, Love 

Starters 

XJ 

Love 

Banks 

Ledlum 

Reneau 

Bench 

Cupps 

Trey 

Newton 

Sparks 

Sedrick

Gunn 

Leal 

Doubty RS 

 

Posted

say take four in the portal and sign Doubty from BD and red shirt him. 

Transfers 

Sparks, Ledlum, Sedrick, Love 

Starters 

XJ 

Love 

Banks 

Ledlum 

Reneau 

Bench 

Cupps 

Trey 

Newton 

Sparks 

Sedrick

Gunn 

Leal 

Doubty RS 

 

I think we can grab battle as well and start him at the 3

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Ok, I'll let it go for now, clearly I'm on a tangent and swimming up-stream on this subject. I see Love as Devonte Green with a quicker first-step and a worse attitude. If that somehow equates to making IU a better basketball team, then terrific, but I'm extrememly skeptical. I prefer he take his journey of self-discovery (and his 35% FG shooting) somewhere/anywhere else. 

IMO, this is a high risk, high reward option. If IU is taking 4-5 from the portal as it seems is likely, then I think they can take a flyer on one "developmental" type guard and/or a big. I can see the appeal of having a player that talented as the "developmental" guard. I haven't seen much from Woody to indicate that he would put up with nonsense or fail to bench him/kick him to the curb if he doesn't live up to the standard. I'd also think that part of the recruiting pitch would be similar to that Woody used on TJD, ie. focusing on the areas of improvement. If Love  commits after such a pitch and Woody feels like it has a chance of working, then I'm onboard. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Hardwood83 said:

Ok, I'll let it go for now, clearly I'm on a tangent and swimming up-stream on this subject. I see Love as Devonte Green with a quicker first-step and a worse attitude. If that somehow equates to making IU a better basketball team, then terrific, but I'm extrememly skeptical. I prefer he take his journey of self-discovery (and his 35% FG shooting) somewhere/anywhere else. 

"We've got to draw the line," UNC junior guard Caleb Love said. "We can’t keep feeling sorry for ourselves. We've got to draw the line on what we want to do as far as finishing the season. There is literally no choice for guys to do but to fight and every time we step out on the floor we've got to fight.”

IMO, the issues at North Carolina weren't so much a player thing...they were a coaching issue.  It might be why they were capable of overcoming Hubert Davis in a span of a few games in the tournament but always struggled in a full regular season slate.  And the above quote I certainly couldn't have ever seen coming from DeVonte Green.

Posted

In terms of Love, I assume the 'attitude' issues were about the number of shots he took?  I know of no off court issues.  And in terms of the number of shots a guy takes, coaches can control that.  If a guy is killing you with his shot bulk, that's a coaching issue.  You can't shoot shots you aren't on the floor to make.

Posted
3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

One thing that is worrisome this spring is how much time is our head coach going to put in this spring talking, texting, and zooming with players on nice afternoons. Not to try to make a big deal about it but on a day like today which isn't great outside but you will find Woody, Armond Hill, and Scott May all at Pfau golf course playing 18 and smoking cigars. Is he really going to put in the work that a 45-year-old Musselman, Oates, or whoever is going to? That is the part that scares me. 

Lets not confuse effort with accomplishment.  (granted those to dudes have accomplished some things, although a bit underwhelming for Oats this year).  I don't know if Woodson's "son, I'll get you to the NBA" schtick will sell, but we'll see.  

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