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[Hoosierfan2017]

I think we need to be realistic about Galloway’s trajectory, too. He’s a 6’4 wing who can’t shoot and doesn’t have great athleticism. He shot 31% from 3 and 63% from the free throw line in high school. As a senior, he shot 23% from 3 and 58% from the line. His free throw and three point percentages got worse as he progressed through high school. I know some see him as a potential Will Sheehey type, but Sheehey was 6’7, pretty athletic, and a serviceable shooter. Sheehey also struggled as a senior when he was no longer surrounded by elite talent. Woodson isn’t going to keep a kid around just because he’s from Indiana if he doesn’t think he’ll help the team. 

[Bigred3588]

13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Keion Brooks is also interested in getting a college degree. If he wanted to go pro, players at UK with far less on their resume have done so after one or two years. Keion is going to be a college junior. He most certainly does not fit the UK mercenary profile.

 

Keion Brooks isn't going to be a college junior because he wants a degree; he's going to be a college junior because he isn't good enough to make an NBA roster.

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, bigrod said:

So, this kind of makes it sound like the staff at IU may be weighing whether this is a good move? Is it a case where he is ready to make a move and we are deciding if we want that to happen?

I don't know that. I just know I'm told as soon as he enters the portal he will be a Hoosier. I've been told that twice now. Me personally I'm almost to the point of being over Brooks. 

[ap2345]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I don't know that. I just know I'm told as soon as he enters the portal he will be a Hoosier. I've been told that twice now. Me personally I'm almost to the point of being over Brooks. 

It's possible he's waiting to see how certain classes finish up to make sure certain credits transfer properly. It sounds like his grades have been good so the academic side of a transfer would be a concern even though that's something that isn't talked about much. 

[8bucks]

2 minutes ago, Bigred3588 said:

Keion Brooks isn't going to be a college junior because he wants a degree; he's going to be a college junior because he isn't good enough to make an NBA roster.

Right, so why continue to get all SEC grades at UK if doesn't want the degree.  Why not just go overseas and play.  It might not be his only priority but seems he sees there is value in the school part

[triple]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I think we need to be realistic about Galloway’s trajectory, too.

Galloway brings a lot of intangibles and can guard multiple positions.  Even if he never starts I see him as a 6th man of the year kind of guy by his 3rd or 4th season.  

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Right, so why continue to get all SEC grades at UK if doesn't want the degree.  Why not just go overseas and play.  It might not be his only priority but seems he sees there is value in the school part

Now hold on... college isn't all that bad lol 

[Hoosierfan2017]

10 minutes ago, triple said:

Galloway brings a lot of intangibles and can guard multiple positions.  Even if he never starts I see him as a 6th man of the year kind of guy by his 3rd or 4th season.  

I just don’t really see it. No offense to Trey, but players like him are a dime a dozen. We can land players who have those same intangibles but also have more talent. He was a 3 star recruit ranked outside the top 150. If things go well for him then he could play that role as a senior, but he doesn’t have the shooting or the raw athleticism that some guys who outplay their rankings have. 

Woody wants to win now, and with his age his shelf life at IU is about a decade more or less. Does he want to wait around and see if Galloway develops, or does he want to get as much talent as he can right now? When you’re a new coach coming in with the portal, your first worry is crap are all these guys going to leave? Now that that’s obviously not a problem, he can be picky. I think he’d take Brooks over Galloway in a heartbeat. They’re both Indiana kids, and one is a lot better than the other. 

[Stuhoo]

15 minutes ago, Bigred3588 said:

Keion Brooks isn't going to be a college junior because he wants a degree; he's going to be a college junior because he isn't good enough to make an NBA roster.

 

Cody Zeller was about as good a student as there could be -- athlete or non-athlete. He only stayed two years when he saw the chance to be a lotto pick.

My point is that Keion Brooks is an actual student athlete. At Kentucky that is most certainly not a given.

[Bigred3588]

23 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I think we need to be realistic about Galloway’s trajectory, too. He’s a 6’4 wing who can’t shoot and doesn’t have great athleticism. He shot 31% from 3 and 63% from the free throw line in high school. As a senior, he shot 23% from 3 and 58% from the line. His free throw and three point percentages got worse as he progressed through high school. I know some see him as a potential Will Sheehey type, but Sheehey was 6’7, pretty athletic, and a serviceable shooter. Sheehey also struggled as a senior when he was no longer surrounded by elite talent. Woodson isn’t going to keep a kid around just because he’s from Indiana if he doesn’t think he’ll help the team. 

Thought this would be interesting. The first stat line is Trey Galloway's freshman season. The second is the stat line from another 6'4 wing with whom you're all familiar. Can you guess who it is?

MPG: 19.6; FG% 41.7; 3P% 18.2; FT% 73.7; REB 1.9; AST 1.6; BLK 0.0; STL 0.4; TO 1.0; PTS 3.6

MPG: 17.1; FG% 45.0; 3P% 24.3; FT% 68.3; REB 2.1; AST 1.5; BLK 0.1; STL 1.0; TO 1.4; PTS 3.3

[CSP]

All Trey Galloway has ever done is win. Fife and Woodson both know that. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 minute ago, Bigred3588 said:

Thought this would be interesting. The first stat line is Trey Galloway's freshman season. The second is the stat line from another 6'4 wing with whom you're all familiar. Can you guess who it is?

MPG: 19.6; FG% 41.7; 3P% 18.2; FT% 73.7; REB 1.9; AST 1.6; BLK 0.0; STL 0.4; TO 1.0; PTS 3.6

MPG: 17.1; FG% 45.0; 3P% 24.3; FT% 68.3; REB 2.1; AST 1.5; BLK 0.1; STL 1.0; TO 1.4; PTS 3.3

Nope. Who is it?

[CSP]

Just now, Bigred3588 said:

Thought this would be interesting. The first stat line is Trey Galloway's freshman season. The second is the stat line from another 6'4 wing with whom you're all familiar. Can you guess who it is?

MPG: 19.6; FG% 41.7; 3P% 18.2; FT% 73.7; REB 1.9; AST 1.6; BLK 0.0; STL 0.4; TO 1.0; PTS 3.6

MPG: 17.1; FG% 45.0; 3P% 24.3; FT% 68.3; REB 2.1; AST 1.5; BLK 0.1; STL 1.0; TO 1.4; PTS 3.3

Michael Jordan? 

[ap2345]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I just don’t really see it. No offense to Trey, but players like him are a dime a dozen. We can land players who have those same intangibles but also have more talent. He was a 3 star recruit ranked outside the top 150. If things go well for him then he could play that role as a senior, but he doesn’t have the shooting or the raw athleticism that some guys who outplay their rankings have. 

Woody wants to win now, and with his age his shelf life at IU is about a decade more or less. Does he want to wait around and see if Galloway develops, or does he want to get as much talent as he can right now? When you’re a new coach coming in with the portal, your first worry is crap are all these guys going to leave? Now that that’s obviously not a problem, he can be picky. 

You also don't run off a kid who's dad is one of the top high school coaches in the state when it's your first year on the job. I get that Woody isn't just recruiting Indiana but you don't want to burn those bridges already. He's very Sheehey like and I'll take that off the bench any day. 

[Henryville Hoosier]

5 minutes ago, Bigred3588 said:

Thought this would be interesting. The first stat line is Trey Galloway's freshman season. The second is the stat line from another 6'4 wing with whom you're all familiar. Can you guess who it is?

MPG: 19.6; FG% 41.7; 3P% 18.2; FT% 73.7; REB 1.9; AST 1.6; BLK 0.0; STL 0.4; TO 1.0; PTS 3.6

MPG: 17.1; FG% 45.0; 3P% 24.3; FT% 68.3; REB 2.1; AST 1.5; BLK 0.1; STL 1.0; TO 1.4; PTS 3.3

Coach Fife

[triple]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woody wants to win now, and with his age his shelf life at IU is about a decade more or less. Does he want to wait around and see if Galloway develops, or does he want to get as much talent as he can right now?

I don't see Woody going 13 deep.  

[CSP]

Just now, ap2345 said:

You also don't run off a kid who's dad is one of the top high school coaches in the state when it's your first year on the job. I get that Woody isn't just recruiting Indiana but you don't want to burn those bridges already. He's very Sheehey like and I'll take that off the bench any day. 

Leal and Galloway are completely fine. They will find their minutes. I've mentioned before... but both won 4 sectionals in HS, like 2 regionals, 1 Semi state, 1 state... won like 85% of their games or more in HS. They are going to find minutes. "winning"... all they do is win, literally. 

I don't think they will play much this year, that is completely fine.. they should not have had to play much last year. But jesus.. both came out when they didn't even know who their coach would be and said "I'm a Hoosier for life".. now we are assuming we can do better? Nahh. 

[ap2345]

6 minutes ago, Bigred3588 said:

Thought this would be interesting. The first stat line is Trey Galloway's freshman season. The second is the stat line from another 6'4 wing with whom you're all familiar. Can you guess who it is?

MPG: 19.6; FG% 41.7; 3P% 18.2; FT% 73.7; REB 1.9; AST 1.6; BLK 0.0; STL 0.4; TO 1.0; PTS 3.6

MPG: 17.1; FG% 45.0; 3P% 24.3; FT% 68.3; REB 2.1; AST 1.5; BLK 0.1; STL 1.0; TO 1.4; PTS 3.3

Coach Dane Fife

[ap2345]

1 minute ago, btownqb said:

Leal and Galloway are completely fine. They will find their minutes. I've mentioned before... but both won 4 sectionals in HS, like 2 regionals, 1 Semi state, 1 state... won like 85% of their games or more in HS. They are going to find minutes. "winning"... all they do is win, literally. 

I don't think they will play much this year, that is completely fine.. they should not have had to play much last year. But jesus.. both came out when they didn't even know who their coach would be and said "I'm a Hoosier for life".. now we are assuming we can do better? Nahh. 

I completely agree. Hunter is who I could see leaving more than anyone. Doubt he'd like a minutes reduction and I don't know were his minutes would come from with Kopp, Brooks, and Geronimo all needing minutes. Not to mention Race will get some time at the 4. I just don't see it plus he's awful on defense and doesn't do much except be a streaky shooter. 

[VO5]

3 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Leal and Galloway are completely fine. They will find their minutes. I've mentioned before... but both won 4 sectionals in HS, like 2 regionals, 1 Semi state, 1 state... won like 85% of their games or more in HS. They are going to find minutes. "winning"... all they do is win, literally. 

I don't think they will play much this year, that is completely fine.. they should not have had to play much last year. But jesus.. both came out when they didn't even know who their coach would be and said "I'm a Hoosier for life".. now we are assuming we can do better? Nahh. 

I don’t want to get into a pissing match about this but we absolutely can do better, which is why we went out and got Xavier Johnson and Tamar bates. I love Galloway and Leal and their commitment to IU. It’s awesome to see and doesn’t happen much anymore. But I’m also trying to be realistic. These guys are not getting minutes on a final four type team where we want to be. You always have to look for talent upgrades on your roster. If they’re fine being end of the bench guys then that’s great. It really is. I just don’t see us winning in the future if they’re getting many minutes.