IUBB vs MSU Game Thread 1/23 8:30 FS1

[NOLA Hoosier]

10 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

 And more than that, I’m thinking there’s probably gonna be a two or three way tie for the top. 

100% agree. I don't think anyone wins it outright this year...way too crazy.

[JerryYeagley23]

8 minutes ago, NOLA Hoosier said:

100% agree. I don't think anyone wins it outright this year...way too crazy.

I forget, are there any tie-breakers like head-to-Head, or did that change when the scheduling went to unbalanced?

[Brass Cannon]

So far MSU hasn’t been able to win on the road. League is pretty wide open. Anybody with less than 4 losses is in decent position. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

1. To me it looked like he cramped up at the very end, which is not at all an issue.
2. Not me. Winston is very, very good at 'causing' contact. The best, craftiest guards know how to do that effectively. Thought the refs were absolutely excellent last night.
3. I didn't hear it, but es no bueno.
4. He was terrible, but he's playing hard and engaged. He's also in a big-time shooting funk, so that magnifies bad plays. He'll be a major plus down the road as long as his attitude remains positive when things aren't ducky. In other words, we've seen this before.

I agree with you about the officiating. Overall it was very good

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Green was bad. He never really looked to do anything offensively when he was out there. Barely played in the second half. 
 
I thought Justin was pretty inefficient as well. 

Justin may have been inefficient offensively, but I thought his defense and rebounding were good.

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[HoosierFan1994]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

12 games left. Be nice to go 7-5.

I'm going with 7-5 as well. I'd be happy with that or anything above it. That would put us at 22-9 (12-8). Puts us around 6th or 7th in the conference. Win a game in the B1G tournament and get an 8/9 seed. Just my expectations . 

[MoyeNeeded]

Steve Lavin stated in the Fox post game show that he thought IU was a 'second weekend' tournament team for what it's worth.

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 hours ago, Old Friend said:

The same people who want him fired can't watch them play, see the team getting healthier, see one kid getting benched, watch the execution and obvious steady improvement and reach a logical conclusion?   That tells me a whole lot about anyone who's still on that elementary bandwagon.   Couple of games here and there?   Team's 15-4, has the best record in the Big Ten against ranked opponents (two ranked #6 and #7 in Sagarin yesterday) and it's spun merely as "a few games here and there."  Yep.  Got it.

Few people actually wanted him fired. The majority were in the "we need to make the tournament this season, if we don't Archie deserves to be on the hot seat next year" crowd. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

And the same people that have blind faith in him can't watch some of the absolute garbage performances they have and do the same? Sure but are they likely to? Nope. And we've seen trends for 2 1/2 years that suggest the "bad" have been more prevalent than the "good". There is a lot of season left and I'd like to see how it goes. If you want to declare it a success already then go ahead but that tells me a lot about you in that case. On a side note: are you incapable of communicating with people without doing so in a condescending and arrogant way?

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My biggest problem isnt that they are negative. It is that they are negative all the time. They will make sure they post numerous times in a game thread when we lose that game. They rarely, if ever, post in threads like this one. At least the sunshine pumpers will post in most, if not all, game threads.

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[JerryYeagley23]

21 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

I'm going with 7-5 as well. I'd be happy with that or anything above it. That would put us at 22-9 (12-8). Puts us around 6th or 7th in the conference. Win a game in the B1G tournament and get an 8/9 seed. Just my expectations . 

Based on the known strength of the conference, and the number of Quad 1 wins that record would have us with, I think 22-9 (12-8) is more likely a tie for 3rd/4th in conference and a 4/5 seed in the Dance. Have to think the committee will look favorably on B1G teams given the gauntlet they face in conference this year as opposed to a team like Virginia Tech or NC State sitting in 4th place in a down ACC that comes out with a similar overall record.

[Stromboli]

 

Oh look, another Winston foul that got a pass. That guy gets away with stuff every possession. They showed the replay of the Brunk foul (called on Joey early) and it was clear Cassius grabbed his arm to make it appear to be a foul. He had one feed where he stiff-armed our guy, just a blatant push to create space, then made the entry pass. Another replay where I think rob was showing the ref the hooking motion Winston was getting away with, and the replay showed it. The B1G trying to make him into a superstar has gone too far. 
 

Love the Izzo hate around here. Biggest crybaby in college basketball. I watched his entire postgame presser with as much glee as I did the game. And MSU fans don’t get enough credit for how insufferable they are. 
 

Loving these reports from those of you at “the Carnegie Hall of College Basketball” as Gus Johnson repeated at least 3 times last night. Guys saying best environment since 2012? Evidently reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated. Also, it’s a little thing, but just hearing Gus and Bill refer to us as IU was refreshing. For a loooong time when someone said “IU” it immediately meant the blue blood basketball program. You don’t hear it as much anymore. 
 

Not many comments on the game that haven’t been said. Al played a man’s game. He came out fired up. Our bigs dominated for us. Armaan looked like a guy that will be a plus player for us in the years to come. Justin was awesome, IMO. Great attitude, huge effort. Someone made the point that even without the two seniors, we might be returning all those guys next year. After a night like that, everyone will want to keep on being a part of this program, and hopefully recruits too. 
 

Everybody: we have people saying that going 5-7 over the next 12 would be a great overall result. We will be losing multiple games in the next month, and won’t necessarily look good doing it. Keep your cool. This team is delivering us a very satisfying season so far. Keep supporting them. Five more wins over 12 games won’t be fun, but that is 20 wins and a great resume. 
 

100% chance I track down some grape Icebreakers before Maryland. 

[323SGrant]

 
Oh look, another Winston foul that got a pass. That guy gets away with stuff every possession. They showed the replay of the Brunk foul (called on Joey early) and it was clear Cassius grabbed his arm to make it appear to be a foul. He had one feed where he stiff-armed our guy, just a blatant push to create space, then made the entry pass. Another replay where I think rob was showing the ref the hooking motion Winston was getting away with, and the replay showed it. The B1G trying to make him into a superstar has gone too far. 
 
Love the Izzo hate around here. Biggest crybaby in college basketball. I watched his entire postgame presser with as much glee as I did the game. And MSU fans don’t get enough credit for how insufferable they are. 
 
Loving these reports from those of you at “the Carnegie Hall of College Basketball” as Gus Johnson repeated at least 3 times last night. Guys saying best environment since 2012? Evidently reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated. Also, it’s a little thing, but just hearing Gus and Bill refer to us as IU was refreshing. For a loooong time when someone said “IU” it immediately meant the blue blood basketball program. You don’t hear it as much anymore. 
 
Not many comments on the game that haven’t been said. Al played a man’s game. He came out fired up. Our bigs dominated for us. Armaan looked like a guy that will be a plus player for us in the years to come. Justin was awesome, IMO. Great attitude, huge effort. Someone made the point that even without the two seniors, we might be returning all those guys next year. After a night like that, everyone will want to keep on being a part of this program, and hopefully recruits too. 
 
Everybody: we have people saying that going 5-7 over the next 12 would be a great overall result. We will be losing multiple games in the next month, and won’t necessarily look good doing it. Keep your cool. This team is delivering us a very satisfying season so far. Keep supporting them. Five more wins over 12 games won’t be fun, but that is 20 wins and a great resume. 
 
100% chance I track down some grape Icebreakers before Maryland. 

Dakich said a couple days ago, and I’m paraphrasing, that Purdue has the best home court environment in the country.


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[MoyeNeeded]

30 minutes ago, Stromboli said:

 

Oh look, another Winston foul that got a pass. That guy gets away with stuff every possession. They showed the replay of the Brunk foul (called on Joey early) and it was clear Cassius grabbed his arm to make it appear to be a foul. He had one feed where he stiff-armed our guy, just a blatant push to create space, then made the entry pass. Another replay where I think rob was showing the ref the hooking motion Winston was getting away with, and the replay showed it. The B1G trying to make him into a superstar has gone too far. 
 

Love the Izzo hate around here. Biggest crybaby in college basketball. I watched his entire postgame presser with as much glee as I did the game. And MSU fans don’t get enough credit for how insufferable they are. 
 

Loving these reports from those of you at “the Carnegie Hall of College Basketball” as Gus Johnson repeated at least 3 times last night. Guys saying best environment since 2012? Evidently reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated. Also, it’s a little thing, but just hearing Gus and Bill refer to us as IU was refreshing. For a loooong time when someone said “IU” it immediately meant the blue blood basketball program. You don’t hear it as much anymore. 
 

Not many comments on the game that haven’t been said. Al played a man’s game. He came out fired up. Our bigs dominated for us. Armaan looked like a guy that will be a plus player for us in the years to come. Justin was awesome, IMO. Great attitude, huge effort. Someone made the point that even without the two seniors, we might be returning all those guys next year. After a night like that, everyone will want to keep on being a part of this program, and hopefully recruits too. 
 

Everybody: we have people saying that going 5-7 over the next 12 would be a great overall result. We will be losing multiple games in the next month, and won’t necessarily look good doing it. Keep your cool. This team is delivering us a very satisfying season so far. Keep supporting them. Five more wins over 12 games won’t be fun, but that is 20 wins and a great resume. 
 

100% chance I track down some grape Icebreakers before Maryland. 

Anyone know our record with Gus on the call? Seems like we get a W when he is doing our games! Plus, I just love his game calls.

[HinnyHoosier]

Anybody seen gradman lately?

He missed the game because he was too busy taking a dump on Fred’s front porch.


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[Stromboli]

15 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

Suck on that Cassius! 

Seems pretty obvious. Cassius threw his face right into Al’s hand to try to get the call smh

 

Who guessed Al would turn into our enforcer? Also you guys may know, Brunk had a reputation in the Big East as a dirty/rough player. In the B1G he’s like a finesse guy. 

[MikeRoberts]

And the same people that have blind faith in him can't watch some of the absolute garbage performances they have and do the same? Sure but are they likely to? Nope. And we've seen trends for 2 1/2 years that suggest the "bad" have been more prevalent than the "good". There is a lot of season left and I'd like to see how it goes. If you want to declare it a success already then go ahead but that tells me a lot about you in that case. On a side note: are you incapable of communicating with people without doing so in a condescending and arrogant way?

 

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I’ve definitely been impressed with our intensity and of course, ability to pull out some key wins lately.

 

I was never one on the Archie is the guy not on the Fire Archie wagon but was beginning to really question whether he was the right fit as we struggled mightily and even when winning were seeing some of the same issues we’ve seen for 2.5 seasons.

 

Again, I was never on the fire Archie wagon and I don’t think many truly were, just a few that were loud and many like me that publically started to share my doubts that I was having.

 

Anywho, glad to see they have strung together some key wins and hoping like crazy we can finish strong and go into the post season knowing we are in and just debating the seed

 

Edit: I know your post was directed at oldfriend but find myself sitting somewhere in the middle between the two sides.

 

Interesting debate nonetheless

 

 

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[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I’ve definitely been impressed with our intensity and of course, ability to pull out some key wins lately.

 

I was never one on the Archie is the guy not on the Fire Archie wagon but was beginning to really question whether he was the right fit as we struggled mightily and even when winning were seeing some of the same issues we’ve seen for 2.5 seasons.

 

Again, I was never on the fire Archie wagon and I don’t think many truly were, just a few that were loud and many like me that publically started to share my doubts that I was having.

 

Anywho, glad to see they have strung together some key wins and hoping like crazy we can finish strong and go into the post season knowing we are in and just debating the seed

 

Edit: I know your post was directed at oldfriend but find myself sitting somewhere in the middle between the two sides.

 

Interesting debate nonetheless

 

 

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Now this is a post I can understand. You can point out that things are going well, but also have things that are concerning sometimes during the season.

I think a lot of people forget how long the season is. There are going to be ups and downs. Two or three weeks ago people would have had you believe Holtman was the next Wooden, now that they are struggling he doesn't know what he's doing. There are so many things that go on during the season that are uncontrollable. 

I don't think everyone bought into the team atmosphere last season, but truly believe it has happened so far this season. But no guarantee that if something doesn't go our way it won't happen again. 

[HoosierFan1994]

2 hours ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

Based on the known strength of the conference, and the number of Quad 1 wins that record would have us with, I think 22-9 (12-8) is more likely a tie for 3rd/4th in conference and a 4/5 seed in the Dance. Have to think the committee will look favorably on B1G teams given the gauntlet they face in conference this year as opposed to a team like Virginia Tech or NC State sitting in 4th place in a down ACC that comes out with a similar overall record.

It is certainly possible. I think there are going to be a cluster of teams at 12-8/13-7. 

[MikeRoberts]

It is certainly possible. I think there are going to be a cluster of teams at 12-8/13-7. 

I think 13-7 could win the conference


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