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Indiana vs Butler Game Thread 12/15

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TheWatShot
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People who try to get you to do other things when IU is playing are just the worst kind of people.

Class of '66 Old Fart
Class of '66 Old Fart

Another good tweet this morining:  Reminder that Archie already has as many Crossroad Classic wins as Matt Painter....

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A 10-year old from Jasper wrote this to Rob

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Was there for both games today and I'll start by saying it was so nice to be on the other end of a buzzer beater for once as I have literally seen IU lose at the Buzzer 3 times in Bankers Life Fieldhouse previously (Hoffarber heave in 2008 for Minny, Barlow buzzer beater in 2012 for Butler and Chatman for Michigan in 2016). Archie seems to have turned our luck around at Bankers Life with 2 thrilling wins there in 2 years (I personally missed my only Crossroads Classic in person ever last year for an important family event) after so many struggles there with Crean and other coaches previously.

First game I have to say PU looks dreadful and an NIT team at best with nothing but Edwards. ND looks like a bubble team although losing Pflueger probably for year hurts. IU and Butler look like solid tourney teams and just playing for seeding. Second game was way better than first overall.

I have seen some confusion on what the fan breakdown was and I would say it was about 60% IU with Butler and Purdue 20% each and Notre Dame no one (not literally but no more than a few hundred and nothing significant). I also was curious to see how many IU fans would help root ND on in the first game and there were not many as PU had most of the noise from their pocket of fans but overall game had little atmosphere. Second game was a great atmosphere with it being about 80-20 IU and reminded me of a tourney atmosphere where the close by 1 seed gets 80% of the fans and the other teams fan base and rest of the fan bases root against you (in this case just PU and Butler fans).

I also had my best seat ever as I was able to buy a ticket through IU at the last minute for face value in club level as a season ticket holder (I had always bought on secondary market in balcony previous years). Overall happy to see Vic there as well as several other former players and what a great win!

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31 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Because it doesn't bode well for selling to recruits that you can maximize their draft stock.

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Are you saying his draft stock would be higher if he went somewhere else? I think this whole conversation is a little premature. I'm not an NBA scout, so I don't have the first clue where Romeo will go in the draft, but this whole argument is a slippery slope. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I don't have the first clue. To me it's hard to believe that Romeo would be shooting better from 3 @ Kansas right now.

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2 minutes ago, Ranger78 said:

Are you saying his draft stock would be higher if he went somewhere else? I think this whole conversation is a little premature. I'm not an NBA scout, so I don't have the first clue where Romeo will go in the draft, but this whole argument is a slippery slope. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I don't have the first clue. To me it's hard to believe that Romeo would be shooting better from 3 @ Kansas right now.

Probably not but opposing coaches will try to convince recruits as much. 

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Are you saying his draft stock would be higher if he went somewhere else? I think this whole conversation is a little premature. I'm not an NBA scout, so I don't have the first clue where Romeo will go in the draft, but this whole argument is a slippery slope. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I don't have the first clue. To me it's hard to believe that Romeo would be shooting better from 3 @ Kansas right now.

That doesn’t really matter though. Any slip can simply be marketed by opposing coaches as, “Look what happened to Romeo Langford. OAD top 5 pick going into Indiana and slipped X spots in the draft.


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10 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:


That doesn’t really matter though. Any slip can simply be marketed by opposing coaches as, “Look what happened to Romeo Langford. OAD top 5 pick going into Indiana and slipped X spots in the draft.


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Nature of beast when you're dealing with 5 star recruits and the coaching staff will need to handle the negative recruiting. At the end of the day, I'm hoping wins do matter, but I'm probably looking at it in a very simplistic manner. I'm not sure a high in flux of 5 stars is the best way to build a winning program anyways... but again, just my opinion.

The one thing I'm confident in is that Romeo will be successful in the end. ... good win today... good talk ... I'm out for the night....

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Are you saying his draft stock would be higher if he went somewhere else? I think this whole conversation is a little premature. I'm not an NBA scout, so I don't have the first clue where Romeo will go in the draft, but this whole argument is a slippery slope. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I don't have the first clue. To me it's hard to believe that Romeo would be shooting better from 3 @ Kansas right now.
It's more about this being Archie's first opportunity with a lottery type one and done talent. No I don't necessarily think it's Archie's fault but I also don't know if he'd have better looks in a different offense either. Just saying it could be used against Archie, right or wrong.

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7 hours ago, Red1 said:

I keep reading about the next 2 gimme games. This team better stay FOCUSED, because I don’t have a fallout shelter strong enough for the fallout from the nuclear bomb this place would become 

I can't wait for people to say they expect an easy win so when it's a 3 point game at halftime and we have 10 turnovers, I can give them crap about it again.

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Wasn’t our best game, but any win is huge. Can’t say enough about Mr. Juwan Morgan, straight up stud! We really need to get contributors around him, but more than just Romeo on the offensive end.

Some of the guys, especially Smith, need to quit only going through the motions. Smith could have been wide open so many times diving to the basket, but didn’t look for it. I was thrilled to see that 3 go down for him, because he is never looking for him mid-range plus shot. Hope that will give him much needed confidence, because we really need him to understand and utilize his crazy potential.

Can’t believe Rob’s shot going down, but this kid always stays poised regardless the situation.

Only wish going forward is to stop starting the games so slow. While we keep winning, just hate falling behind every time. Come out of the gate guns blazing.


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