(2020) SG Trey Galloway To IU

[Honkyman]

18 minutes ago, btownqb said:

we can develop shooting

When? Shooting, especially 3-point shooting, has been IU's greatest liability for several years. The inability to hit outside shots has cost us games. 

[CSP]

6 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

When? Shooting, especially 3-point shooting, has been IU's greatest liability for several years. The inability to hit outside shots has cost us games. 

When what? 

Also.. greatest liability doesn't mean--- only weakness. 

[BGleas]

3 hours ago, btownqb said:

we need more switchability defensively... we need more dudes that can get their own getting to the rack... we can develop shooting, I am not worried about that. 

Yup, we need all of those things. We also need guards/wings that can play with pace and force pace when the timing is right and Galloway is arguably our best guy at that. 

Galloway, with his defense, ball handing and aggressiveness is probably our best player at creating easy baskets in transition, which is something IU really needs. 

Part of improving shooting is getting better, easier shots and Galloway helps with that with his penetration, passing and ability to push the pace. 

[RaceToTheTop]

6 hours ago, PB1230 said:

Even a team as a whole doesn't necessarily need to shoot 3's well. Wisconsin won a share of the B1G shooting 30.6% from 3. Auburn won the SEC shooting 31.8%. Baylor won a share of the B12 shooting 34.3%. Texas Tech finished 3rd in the B12 shooting 32.1%. Providence finished 2nd in the BE shooting 34%. Arkansas made an elite 8 shooting 30.6%. Miami made an elite 8 shooting 33.9%. Houston won the AAC and made an elite 8 shooting 33.8%.

Yes, 3-point shooting was IU biggest single weakness and is therefore also the area with the greatest potential for growth, but people are latching onto that as the only way to get better. Even without substantially better 3 point shooting, incremental improvements in other areas might very well be enough to get IU over the hump in a lot of games to put IU at the top of the conference and to have a decent tournament run.

The problem was IU shooting a low percentage combined with not shooting many threes.  If you aren't shooting many, the assumption is that they are good looks.  IU shot poorly on good looks.

[lillurk]

4 hours ago, BGleas said:

Yup, we need all of those things. We also need guards/wings that can play with pace and force pace when the timing is right and Galloway is arguably our best guy at that. 

Galloway, with his defense, ball handing and aggressiveness is probably our best player at creating easy baskets in transition, which is something IU really needs. 

Part of improving shooting is getting better, easier shots and Galloway helps with that with his penetration, passing and ability to push the pace. 

Yes, would add that even a bump into the low 30%s wouldn’t necessarily make him a “good” 3Pt shooter by an objective metric, but would mean defenses have to at least respect the chance he takes one that’s too easy. Which in turn should give him additional breathing room to drive.

[Alford Bailey]

Defense and energy guy off the bench. If we are asking him to do more that’s no a good sign.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

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[8bucks]

Defense and energy guy off the bench. If we are asking him to do more that’s no a good sign.

Why? I realize those are what he does best but why not assume he can add to that some other assets as well.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

On 5/18/2022 at 8:30 PM, lillurk said:

Yes, would add that even a bump into the low 30%s wouldn’t necessarily make him a “good” 3Pt shooter by an objective metric, but would mean defenses have to at least respect the chance he takes one that’s too easy. Which in turn should give him additional breathing room to drive.

Teams at the end of the season were giving Galloway the Westbrook treatment and backing way off him. 

[IU - Kaulie]

On 5/19/2022 at 8:24 AM, Alford Bailey said:

Defense and energy guy off the bench. If we are asking him to do more that’s no a good sign.

What?  Galloway is much more than that.

[Stuhoo]

15 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Teams at the end of the season were giving Galloway the Westbrook treatment and backing way off him. 

 

Teams earlier in the season were giving X the same treatment, and he made them pay.

It may not be improved, but it can be.

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Teams earlier in the season were giving X the same treatment, and he made them pay.

It may not be improved, but it can be.

 

Maybe. For as broken and awkward Johnson's mechanics are, Galloways are worse. Kid has a lot of work to do. Confidence alone can really help. 

[CSP]

5 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Maybe. For as broken and awkward Johnson's mechanics are, Galloways are worse. Kid has a lot of work to do. Confidence alone can really help. 

Maybe his FR year. His shot looked different, and better this past year... and pre groin injury he was shooting 5-6% better.  

HIS shooting, and its importance, in regards to his ability to impact our team is wildly overstated. 

You can see how much better his shot looks at the FT line. 

Someone has done a good job with him, XJ, and RT. 

[HoosierHoopster]

23 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Maybe his FR year. His shot looked different, and better this past year... and pre groin injury he was shooting 5-6% better.  

HIS shooting, and its importance, in regards to his ability to impact our team is wildly overstated. 

You can literally see how much better his shot looks at the FT line. 

Some has done a good job with him, XJ, and RT. 

I have no idea if his shot will improve much, the hand/wrist injuries seem to have screwed it up.

But his impact on both ends was and will be important. His assisting was right there behind X and Rob, he moves the ball, he reads and gets tot spots, he's strong 'downhill' and ups the tempo (which should improve this year), and he's one of our best on D, the guy that gets in the head of the offensive player.

Sure, it'd be great if he improves his outside game and the D has to extend out on him, but he helps us regardless in so many ways.

[CSP]

4 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

I have no idea if his shot will improve much, the hand/wrist injuries seem to have screwed it up.

But his impact on both ends was and will be important. His assisting was right there behind X and Rob, he moves the ball, he reads and gets tot spots, he's strong 'downhill' and ups the tempo (which should improve this year), and he's one of our best on D, the guy that gets in the head of the offensive player.

Sure, it'd be great if he improves his outside game and the D has to extend out on him, but he helps us regardless in so many ways.

Right. Can't have a team full of TGs, but having one is an assest. 

[lillurk]

“First team all-hell” is a good one. Happy birthday, Trey.

[Alford Bailey]

Hope he can find a way to stay healthy 

[Honkyman]

7 hours ago, Alford Bailey said:

Hope he can find a way to stay healthy

Doesn't Galloway have to get healthy first before he stays healthy?

[RaceToTheTop]

 

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Class of '66 Old Fart
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