College Bball Thread

[LamarCheeks]

Heckuva game.

I might be in the minority, but I'd rather see an ending like Duke-Kentucky (Laettner) or Villanova-UNC (Jenkins), where it was a great basketball play -- not a lucky 40-foot heave. 

 

[DLG3]

I would be wary of not giving Baylor a chance. Those guys can score in bunches and are way more athletic than UCLA. Should at least be a great game.


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[Brass Cannon]

9 minutes ago, Defenserocks28 said:

That Gonzaga "block" he not only hit hand,  but also the net and the rim,  should have been a goal tend

Yep. But not what the ratings boys wanted 

[Brass Cannon]

Can we hire Lewis now 

[kreigh8]

The Gonzaga conference argument is played out. Yes they are only challenged by a BYU and occasionally a Saint Mary’s but a school without a football team isn’t going to be able to move to a better conference.

Weak conference or not they’ve been legit for nearly a decade now. Routinely churning out pros, and they’d be a legit threat in any conference they’d play in if allowed to move freely but are just restricted due to their school size and lack of football

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

No one is saying their championship isn’t legit. They’re a very good team. But they play in a terrible conference, which artificially raises their seed each year. They stack their record with easy conference wins. Why haven’t they gone the Butler route and joined a better conference? Do you think they’d go undefeated playing in a P5 conference instead of getting to play Pepperdine, University of the Pacific, Portland, San Diego, etc.? Because I don’t. Call it sour grapes or what have you, but their undefeated season will have an * in my mind due to their weak conference and Covid. They got to play against bad teams for most of the year in empty arenas. That’s far different from what IU did in 1976. 

I believe them leaving has quite a bit to do with the school itself. I'm glad they don't leave. Conference realignment has done nothing but hurt college basketball. 

[Dalton26]

I yelled at the tv as soon as he started dribbling to call a time out But that’s why Few is coaching in the national title game and I’m sitting on my couch haha

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

The Gonzaga conference argument is played out. Yes they are only challenged by a BYU and occasionally a Saint Mary’s but a school without a football team isn’t going to be able to move to a better conference

All sports for a school don’t have to compete in the same conference 

[kreigh8]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

All sports for a school don’t have to compete in the same conference 

PAC-10 I doubt would accept a basketball only school. I can’t recall which conference and school it was but when all the alignment stuff was happening years ago there was speculation about which schools couldn’t move where due to similar factors as Gonzaga (size and football)

[KzooHoosier82]

7 minutes ago, Southside said:

Nah. Baylor's D is next level compared to UCLA.

Two very very different teams.

Not saying Baylor wins, just saying it will likely be a very different looking game.

Ya. So you agree with me. My point was Baylor can easily get 90 on Gonzaga, but Gonzaga isn’t getting 90 on Baylor 

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, Defenserocks28 said:

That Gonzaga "block" he not only hit hand,  but also the net and the rim,  should have been a goal tend

100%.

Couldn't believe they showed replays and the commentators didn’t say a word. Should have been a very obvious call.

 

[KzooHoosier82]

1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

100%.

Couldn't believe they showed replays and the commentators didn’t say a word. Should have been.very obvious call.

 

Had this conversation with my wife. Like, what do these guys see that we don’t? In slow motion it was a foul, goaltend or both but all they could say is how great a block it was. 

[DChoosier]

I know it’s a crazy scramble at the end but with 3.3 seconds to go Suggs was allowed/able to dribble all the way past half court without anyone coming close to at least make him slow down or change direction. I know UCLA did not want to foul but he was just allowed to dribble full speed in a straight line.

[Hoosierfan2017]

9 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

The Gonzaga conference argument is played out. Yes they are only challenged by a BYU and occasionally a Saint Mary’s but a school without a football team isn’t going to be able to move to a better conference.

Weak conference or not they’ve been legit for nearly a decade now. Routinely churning out pros, and they’d be a legit threat in any conference they’d play in if allowed to move freely but are just restricted due to their school size and lack of football

Put IU in the WCC this season and where do they finish? 2nd? 3rd? And we were one of the worst teams in the B1G this year. Gonzaga would probably be at the top of the P5 conferences this year, but they wouldn’t have went undefeated. They’d have to consistently go against teams like Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan, Purdue, Iowa, Wisconsin in the Big Ten, and they’d have to go on the road against them. Same if they were in the ACC, SEC, or Big 12. They can have off nights and still win pretty easily in the WCC. Not so much in a P5 conference. 

[Southside]

5 minutes ago, KzooHoosier82 said:

Ya. So you agree with me. My point was Baylor can easily get 90 on Gonzaga, but Gonzaga isn’t getting 90 on Baylor 

Both are top 10 offenses, but one played in a lot tougher conference. Baylor is a top 50 D. Zags aren't a top 100 D.

Should be a good game. IMO, anything could happen, but Baylor is simply better than UCLA. 

UCLA isn't a top 100 offense. Their D is ranked 95th.

[IU Scott]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Put IU in the WCC this season and where do they finish? 2nd? 3rd? And we were one of the worst teams in the B1G this year. Gonzaga would probably be at the top of the P5 conferences this year, but they wouldn’t have went undefeated. They’d have to consistently go against teams like Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan, Purdue, Iowa, Wisconsin in the Big Ten, and they’d have to go on the road against them. Same if they were in the ACC, SEC, or Big 12. They can have off nights and still win pretty easily in the WCC. Not so much in a P5 conference. 

I think Gonzaga would have won the big ten easily.  they might not have went undefeated but the big ten was overrated the whole year.

[kreigh8]

13 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Put IU in the WCC this season and where do they finish? 2nd? 3rd? And we were one of the worst teams in the B1G this year. Gonzaga would probably be at the top of the P5 conferences this year, but they wouldn’t have went undefeated. They’d have to consistently go against teams like Illinois, Ohio State, Michigan, Purdue, Iowa, Wisconsin in the Big Ten, and they’d have to go on the road against them. Same if they were in the ACC, SEC, or Big 12. They can have off nights and still win pretty easily in the WCC. Not so much in a P5 conference. 

I'm not so sure IU finishing 2nd or 3rd is a given. At least this past season's squad. I can't recall a more disappointing IU squad. They weren't expected to be conference champs or anything, but I surely didn't expect them to fold in games or quit to end the season like many, including me, think they did.

I'm not saying Gonzaga would go undefeated if they were in the Big10, I'm just saying the've had a legit roster for at least the past 5 seasons. They've put Collins, Sabonis, Hachiamura, Clarke into the draft just in the past 3 or 4 drafts alone. I just think they'd hold their own. The conference they play in is not indicative to the talent they possess is my argument, which I guess everyone is more hung up on them potentially going undefeated. If the '76 doesn't care if the record is broken I don't think I should care much, but to each their own 

[323SGrant]

Both are top 10 offenses, but one played in a lot tougher conference. Baylor is a top 50 D. Zags aren't a top 100 D.
Should be a good game. IMO, anything could happen, but Baylor is simply better than UCLA. 
UCLA isn't a top 100 offense. Their D is ranked 95th.

I hope I’m wrong, but Gonzaga will probably win the Championship!


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[madmax]

1 minute ago, 323SGrant said:

I hope I’m wrong, but Gonzaga will probably win the Championship!


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I wouldn’t count on it. Baylor is legit. I think it’ll be a great game and I would put it as a total toss up.

[Southside]

25 minutes ago, 323SGrant said:

I hope I’m wrong, but Gonzaga will probably win the Championship!


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I hope you're wrong too lol