IUBB vs Michigan State - Sunday, 03.01.26 @ 3:45 on CBS-TV

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, cbp4iu said:

Honestly…. I think cleaning house almost might be better. We have a GM now that can help somewhat bandaid the scholarship situation. We have no direction at this point. I would be scouting day and night every player who might be in the portal over scouting Minnesota, osu, and our big 10 tourney game. DeVries has got to get the this right. We need some kind of projection or direction. Right now we have what 5 returning role players who aren’t major minutes guys, who might never be. 

That's the new guys job.  He should be going thru all players projected to be available and creating a board -- top 10 PG, top 10 wings, top 10 bigs, etc.  

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Yeah, POS fan base. Thanks for the additional evidence. Maybe the “I’ll do whatever I want crowd” should learn that has consequences. Consequences like chasing off a good recruit. 

If a "good recruit" is so soft he'll be chased off by a few boos for a sub standard performance of a player, then he's not the type of player we want.  We need killers, not snowflakes.  

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Yeah. Right. I’ll tell you what…I understand there probably aren’t enough smart people still around to make up a smart fan base, but surely you can figure out that booing your own players with recruits in the stands is program suicide, right? You can call me whatever you want and pretend whatever you like, but you understand that a high level recruit, even if he’s from this state, has a lot a better choices than what he witnessed today, right?

he has a lot better choices anyway, boos or no boos.  That is the fundamental problem.  

[Shooter]

7 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

If a "good recruit" is so soft he'll be chased off by a few boos for a sub standard performance of a player, then he's not the type of player we want.  We need killers, not snowflakes.  

You've got the order backwards. The boos came first, when Bailey went to the scorer's table to check in for the first time. The sub standard performance came after.

Also not a "few" boos, a large chunk of the student section, each of the last two games. Not sure how it came across on TV, but it was extremely obvious in person.

[American HoosierX]

1 hour ago, Shooter said:

Could not agree less. I just want to win games... do we think booing Reed Bailey makes him play better? His confidence is completely shot.

It wasn't just today, and it wasn't just after a bad play. For at least two games, the student section has booed every time Bailey enters the game, and cheered every time he gets subbed out. Today he catches the ball in the post and before he even does anything, the crowd is groaning. It's not helping.

I don’t love it and wish it wasn’t happening, but it’s hard for me to feel much sympathy. He is making close to 40x the median salary in the US for one season of basketball. And objectively, he has not contributed to this being a winning basketball team.

[Home Jersey]

2 minutes ago, American HoosierX said:

I don’t love it and wish it wasn’t happening, but it’s hard for me to feel much sympathy. He is making close to 40x the median salary in the US for one season of basketball. And objectively, he has not contributed to this being a winning basketball team.

So people who make more money don't deserve sympathy? Booing may soothe upset fans and be warranted at times, but it's generally unhelpful, no matter how people may try to spin it. It's not going to make a kid play better. 

[American HoosierX]

16 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

So people who make more money don't deserve sympathy? Booing may soothe upset fans and be warranted at times, but it's generally unhelpful, no matter how people may try to spin it. It's not going to make a kid play better. 

Well, I think that’s a pretty obvious statement. The booing is not helpful in any way, I can agree with you there.

But no, I don’t think he deserves sympathy. Single moms making $25k a year with real problems deserve sympathy. Reed Bailey making $1.5M a year to play poor basketball does not.

[Home Jersey]

7 minutes ago, American HoosierX said:

Well, I think that’s a pretty obvious statement. The booing is not helpful in any way, I can agree with you there.

But no, I don’t think he deserves sympathy. Single moms making $25k a year with real problems deserve sympathy. Reed Bailey making $1.5M a year to play poor basketball does not.

Sure don't disagree. So, unhelpfully boo him to punish him for not being as good as we'd like? I guess that's people's right. 

[spe317]

What’s the amount of money you make where it becomes okay to be boo’ed and heckled?

Is it 6 figures? Can we boo the 50k 13th rando on the bench? Is there a NET rating for the team? Some advanced metrics? Maybe it’s a bell curve where mediocre gets more slack since you have to boo those sub 300 teams but also can boo the top 50 since they all get paid. 

[Alford Bailey]

Boo the guy who thought Reed Bailey could play at this level and was worth $1.5 million.

[newcastle12]

5 hours ago, hoopsta007 said:

POS fanbase?  Don’t like getting booed then go back to the mid majors.  Fans are sick of the last two decades and have every right to boo whoever they want.  No accountability or toughness. Bring more effort, play hard and smart and it takes care of itself.  The fans/donors are the only reason that a recruit may consider us.  It certainly wouldn’t be because of our mid major coach and players

It's bush league.  It's not the kids fault.  None of it is.  And it's a bad message to send to kids boomer.  

[str8baller]

8 hours ago, spe317 said:

What’s the amount of money you make where it becomes okay to be boo’ed and heckled?

 

Anybody in a public facing role gets subjected to abuse from time to time, regardless of salary.  It’s a matter of personal decorum whether you do it individually, but you can’t stop other people.  
 

How is booing any different than some of the comments here calling him awful? You don’t think Reed Bailey and his family read the internet? What about bigger accounts on X? I saw Ant Wright was killing him in a couple posts yesterday. What about these podcasters and radio hosts? I’m sure recruits read and listen to most of this stuff.  
 

Those questions aren’t directly at you @spe317, but just in general. In general, I find our fanbase’s conduct pretty average (for comparison, several schools have been fined this year for their student sections conduct) all things considered, even though we have our share screwballs that go overboard occasionally. 

[str8baller]

8 hours ago, Alford Bailey said:

Boo the guy who thought Reed Bailey could play at this level and was worth $1.5 million.

I couldn’t tell very well from the TV, but from what I read several of the bigger boos were when he went to the scorer’s table to check in. To me, that is them doing exactly what you are saying. In other words, they were booing the staff for putting him in, as much as they were booing Reed himself.  
 

Ultimately who knows? Mob action rarely makes sense. The whole Reed Bailey project has been a failure from start to finish. Hopefully Weds goes well and we don’t have to worry about it anymore as the season will likely be ending shortly thereafter. 

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

Anybody in a public facing role gets subjected to abuse from time to time, regardless of salary.  It’s a matter of personal decorum whether you do it individually, but you can’t stop other people.  
 

How is booing any different than some of the comments here calling him awful? You don’t think Reed Bailey and his family read the internet? What about bigger accounts on X? I saw Ant Wright was killing him in a couple posts yesterday. What about these podcasters and radio hosts? I’m sure recruits read and listen to most of this stuff.  
 

Those questions aren’t directly at you @spe317, but just in general. In general, I find our fanbase’s conduct pretty average (for comparison, several schools have been fined this year for their student sections conduct) all things considered, even though we have our share screwballs that go overboard occasionally. 

^^I can't like this post enough.^^

It is a reality-based description of 'normal' behavior when fans pay big money to show up and it goes badly for the team they care about. No one was booing IU football when there were 18,000 people scattered to watch them barely beat Akron or get pummeled by Wisconsin. The bit of booing is as normal as it gets when a player is basically a professional and doesn't perform.

If you think it is misplaced? You are correct; Bailey seems like a very nice guy who took a massive payday to come to IU and try his damndest. If it's something you'd never do? I am with you - I will never boo an IU player in any sport. But to think that it's a big deal? It is not. 

If you boo the bad player on your local high school team when he just isn't up to the task that's pretty shameful. But this is as anticipated as it can possible get.

[fwgreenway]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

If you think it is misplaced? You are correct; Bailey seems like a very nice guy who took a massive payday to come to IU and try his damndest. If it's something you'd never do? I am with you - I will never boo an IU player in any sport. But to think that it's a big deal? It is not. 

"But to think that it's a big deal? It is not." I Agree. Wouldn't do it myself, don't like it at all. Maybe it depends on WHO is doing the booing?.....would it be a big deal if the Cheerleaders led the booing?!?

[ronzo4IU]

Booing your own players shows a lack of empathy and arrogance IMO.  Reed tries hard, it's not like he is out there moping around.  Player evaluation needs to be better for this league obviously.

[sirhoosierlot]

[Whoozhers]

Truth be known….. we got more outta this team than we deserved.

What did we expect from a new coach all new players?

They played respectable against a much better MSU team than us.

Would be nice to get back to MUST SEE TV again.

I’ll be watching Wednesday night.

GO HOOSIERS!