Transfer Portal w/IU Interest

[CSP]

6 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

1 offensive rebound every 10 minutes of play is a reliable bench mark for an effective big.

Bailey averaged 1.4 in 33 minutes at Davidson. He gave up 60%from the floor on people he defended and the 0.5 of 1.2 from three for 41.5% 3pt shooting was misleading. He took the money, he was soft and couldn't shoot. Had no business in the Big Ten. He was the posterchild of this year's roster. He should've booed himself. Adams was the lead on that. That's what scares me about Tiller. 

you leave out that Tiller played with Flory lol 

[Victor OlaMoye]

36 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Welcome to posting, @Victor OlaMoye!

Thanks but I've posted before. Around the last coaching search

[sirhoosierlot]

3 minutes ago, Victor OlaMoye said:

Thanks but I've posted before. Around the last coaching search

that guy smh 

[BA47591]

Franck Kepnang would be a great add. I doubt he's going to get another year, but him, Sherrell and anyone else would be fine. He is however 47 years old. 

He rebounds and defends. In a big ten fashion and he I'd immovable.  

[Alford Bailey]

2 hours ago, str8baller said:

Nice thing about Jake Hall is he would be a soph with Sisley and help balance the classes out a little

I pay little attention to that now. They could all leave again at the end of next season

[WayneFleekHoosier]

2 hours ago, tyappleg said:

Not sure you get Reibe/Tiller AND Rancik.  Unless you can sell one of Tiller or Rancik on coming off the bench, which I dont really see. Reibe will not come off the bench. 

I tend to agree.  But 80 divided by 3 is a solid number. 26-27 minutes per player. If you are always playing 2 at the 4-5 the minutes would be about right. A bit of a tough sell though. Because they all want to start at that level. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

18 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I pay little attention to that now. They could all leave again at the end of next season

I’m closer to this but you have to try to get some stability, at least a little bit. I think 3 freshman and 3 portal seems like about the realistic. Turnover to expect.  Or 6 spots however you slice them up. 

[Uspshoosier]

28 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I pay little attention to that now. They could all leave again at the end of next season

Yep.  I personally think it’s overblown getting multiple year kids.   In the system  that is set up it makes sense for any kid to just go into the portal the next year to see what’s available for them.  

[str8baller]

27 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

I pay little attention to that now. They could all leave again at the end of next season

They will be less likely to leave when they’re all being paid well and you’re winning. I think our perception is a little skewed because of how much of a mess we’ve been.  Most top teams with sufficient funds aren’t losing key players to the portal. This is pretty much what Carr laid out. Otherwise it would be pointless to build through recruiting like they want to do. 
 

Once there’s a stable roster you can go throw some big money at that one main portal piece or a 5 star freshman. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, ronzo4IU said:

I had a notice on Rabjohns X account that said Sherrell had committed and then I checked back after about 5 min and it was gone?  Unless i'm losing my mind not sure what happened..Any one else see that?

Osterman apparently had written a story but it was supposed to be held back.  Someone goofed at the Star and a lot of people saw it before it got pulled.  

[str8baller]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yep.  I personally think it’s overblown getting multiple year kids.   In the system  that is set up it makes sense for any kid to just go into the portal the next year to see what’s available for them.  

So if we spend top 5 money this year, you will expect a top 5 team? Nobody will because we started from scratch again and had nothing to build on. You can’t build on anything if you’re just taking one year rentals.  
 

Kids in good situations won’t do that because there’s downside risk to them, mainly worsening draft prospects through new uncertain and circumstances. Cadeau, Mara, Mullins, etc… could all portal and get another $500k or so but they’re not going to. 

[Silat Player]

6 minutes ago, str8baller said:

They will be less likely to leave when they’re all being paid well and you’re winning. I think our perception is a little skewed because of how much of a mess we’ve been.  Most top teams with sufficient funds aren’t losing key players to the portal. This is pretty much what Carr laid out. Otherwise it would be pointless to build through recruiting like they want to do. 
 

Once there’s a stable roster you can go throw some big money at that one main portal piece or a 5 star freshman. 

This. Look at teams like Duke and Purdue. They have very little turnover into the portal. Two completely different programs getting very different kinds of players - Purdue lower rated ones (compared to Duke). Duke getting the best recruiting class every year. The similarity is in the stability of the program. 

That's what IU needs to become. Hopefully, the players they lose in the future will primarily be Devries version of Creaning. 

[68Hoosier]

So, did communications break down with Sherrell?  What happened...  Everyone was so positive last night and thought he would commit today.  Not liking this if he is waiting for a better offer.  

[WRSMick55]

4 hours ago, Shooter said:

Rancik can shoot. And to be honest, Reed Bailey with a jump shot would have made a pretty useful Big Ten 4 man.

Interestingly, the #1 most similar season to Ranick's '25-26 on Kenpom is Christian Watford '11-12.

Think Bailey was forced to play out of position. If IU had a true “center” Bailey could have played the four and maybe utilized his skills better as a four.

[Shooter]

7 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

This. Look at teams like Duke and Purdue. They have very little turnover into the portal. Two completely different programs getting very different kinds of players - Purdue lower rated ones (compared to Duke). Duke getting the best recruiting class every year. The similarity is in the stability of the program. 

That's what IU needs to become. Hopefully, the players they lose in the future will primarily be Devries version of Creaning. 

Duke has plenty of roster turnover. They just mostly lose guys to the draft instead of the portal.

Duke had to replace all five starters from the '24-25 team. And 4 of 5 starters from the '23-24 team before that.

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said:

So, did communications break down with Sherrell?  What happened...  Everyone was so positive last night and thought he would commit today.  Not liking this if he is waiting for a better offer.  

I think it's exactly that, he's waiting for another program to make an offer. Hopefully our offer is to good for another team to even entertain. Sherrell not even visiting MSU tells me we offered a ton. 

[Shooter]

20 minutes ago, str8baller said:

They will be less likely to leave when they’re all being paid well and you’re winning. I think our perception is a little skewed because of how much of a mess we’ve been.  Most top teams with sufficient funds aren’t losing key players to the portal. This is pretty much what Carr laid out. Otherwise it would be pointless to build through recruiting like they want to do. 
 

Once there’s a stable roster you can go throw some big money at that one main portal piece or a 5 star freshman. 

Less likely sure, but guys still leave good programs. Bidunga left Kansas. Sherrell from Alabama, Reibe from UConn. On a lesser level, Myles Colvin was an in-state legacy recruit and contributor on a team projected preseason #1. Still left.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

He recently just started following Carr, relax 

[68Hoosier]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think it's exactly that, he's waiting for another program to make an offer. Hopefully our offer is to good to even entertain. Sherrell not even visiting MSU tells me we offered a ton. 

I get that he wants to maximize his payday but also if we meet his asking price (again that is if) why wait?  This makes it harder on the coaching staff for the perspective team he would be playing for.  I hate the NIL era, but glad we have deep pockets to play in the game, LOL.

[Silat Player]

1 minute ago, Shooter said:

Duke has plenty of roster turnover. They just mostly lose guys to the draft instead of the portal.

Duke had to replace all five starters from the '24-25 team. And 4 of 5 starters from the '23-24 team before that.

TThat's very true. But its not from the portal. They're generally losing players because they are considered such good NBA recruits. But my point was that Duke doesn't lose players to the portal. I couldve made my point better, though, obviously. 

And let's face it. Duke's constant roster churn due to the draft has not helped their chances of winning championships in recent years, in spite of their massively great hs recruiting. 

Last years michigan team was lightening in a bottle with so many transfers that were relevant to that team. It will be interesting to see what else happens going forward. I sometimes wonder if Purdue has been doing so well during the last few years because teams have less chemistry because of roster churn vs how they used to be. Purdues stability overcomes some of their athletic weaknesses.