They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[go iu bb]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

A direct, uninterrupted quote from Woody's weekly presser:

Question: "You mentioned after the Penn State game that you weren't only upset with the way you played, but with the way you coached. Is there anything you looked at specifically that you could have done differently when you kind of look at the season as a whole right now?"

Answer: "Well, it'd be nice to have Xavier Johnson to help me. You know when I coach every year I've coached when things don't go well I point the finger at me..."

Oof. 

He's gotta stop blaming not having Xavier Johnson. He's just gotta. 

Translation: I have no idea how to fix it so I'm just going to blame everything and everyone but myself while pretending I blame myself.

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Or could be money spread out over several years instead of all at once.

Isn't that how the buyouts are typically structured? And for a "lump sum" payout up front, that's typically a negotiated settlement. (re: Tom Allen)... and of course, if it's paid out over time, it's offset by any future earnings... but doubtful Woodson would get another job... he could always hand a shingle as "The Hump Doctor" :D 

[JSHoosier]

13 minutes ago, cleeter said:

Another way i have discovered....my wife, who is a Purdue fan, isnt ripping on me or razzing on me anymore. She literally told me Saturday "she feel's bad for me". 

A PU fan feels sorry. That settles it, Woodson has to go ASAP.

[Hoosierinbham]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Everything is negotiable. So let's see what happens

If Samford makes a run in the tourney, that would help. There are a few mega donors to Bama that might be ready to turn the keys over to Samford coach Bucky McMillan if Oats bolts. Not sure he's quite ready yet, but he's one of the brightest young minds in cbb, and has serious connections in the state. He coached Trendon Watford and Colby Jones of Xavier/NBA in high school, where he won numerous state titles.

[Coach Robby]

we seem to be stuck in Coach Knight's shadow forever...next coach should have 0 attachment to past at IU. Just a winner. A proven one at that. A coach that your players will run through a brick wall for...

I'm showing my age a bit here, but it's 2024. Every angle of every play of every game is video'd and critiqued by thousands of people who claim to have an answer, even though they may not know $hit about basketball. 

I'm wondering how the NIL $$$ will be presented if CMW is back another season...

Unless we win out, after every loss, it's going to be the same conversations everywhere. Who/what/when will this get fixed? We live in a world where a lot of people want instant gratification/results. It's time to do it, now. Not wait, now.

Sorry, after reading this, I didn't really provide many answers. My wish list is Beard, then Pearl, then ? I'm not ignorant to what Dusty May has done at FAU, but he has no relevant connection to IU with today's players....they won't care that he's a former manager is what I'm getting at.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Woody really needs to stop meeting with the media.  He's not doing himself any favors with his comments.

[AZ Hoosier]

28 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He also said today that IU needs to win the final 4 games and a couple in the BTT to have a chance at the NCAA. He really has no clue on how any of this works

Who is "he"? 

[Chris007]

Just now, AZ Hoosier said:

Who is "he"? 

Woody

[AZ Hoosier]

18 minutes ago, Trish said:

https://x.com/coachadragna/status/1762146488652611862?s=46
 

Woodson must go ASAP. 

Yikes!

[Artie86]

19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He also said today that IU needs to win the final 4 games and a couple in the BTT to have a chance at the NCAA. He really has no clue on how any of this works

That's when players and coaches get frustrated because they sometimes forget about QUAD wins/losses. Just wins and losses alone don't always get you in. We have been bitten so many times this year with bad losses.

 

With our remaining 4 games of the regular season, there are opportunities to get 3 quad 1 wins and a quad 2. That's 2 home and 2 away. I just don't see that happening.

Below is a list of all wins and losses so far, from quad 1 through quad 4.

Quad 1 

Record: 1-8

L	57-77	Neutral	(3)		5 UConn
L	76-104	Neutral	(7)		Auburn
L	71-75	Home	(14)		2 Kansas
L	70-86	Away	(41)		Nebraska
L	66-87	Home	(2)		2 Purdue
L	79-91	Away	(22)		11 Wisconsin
L	62-70	Away	(17)		10 Illinois
W	76-73	Away	(66)		Ohio St.
L	59-79	Away	(2)		2 Purdue

Quad 2 

Record: 4-4

W	65-53	Home	(67)		Maryland
W	78-75	Away	(120)		Michigan
W	71-65	Home	(66)		Ohio St.
L	57-66	Away	(98)		Rutgers
W	74-68	Home	(60)		Iowa
L	72-76	Home	(53)		Northwestern
L	70-85	Home	(41)		Nebraska
L	74-83	Away	(96)		Penn St.

Quad 3 

Record: 3-1

W	89-80	Home	(144)		Wright St.
W	69-68	Home	(118)		Morehead St.
W	74-62	Home	(78)		Minnesota
L	71-85	Home	(96)		Penn St.

Quad 4 

Record: 6-0

W	69-63	Home	(262)		FGCU
W	72-64	Home	(332)		Army West Point
W	74-66	Neutral	(206)		Louisville
W	89-76	Home	(180)		Harvard
W	83-66	Home	(257)		North Ala.
W	100-87	Home	(253)		Kennesaw St.

Upcoming

Q1	Home	(22)		Wisconsin	02/27/2024
Q1	Away	(67)		Maryland	03/03/2024
Q2	Away	(78)		Minnesota	03/06/2024
Q1	Home	(24)		Michigan St.	03/10/2024

 

 

 

[darB s'tI]

8 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

That's when players and coaches get frustrated because they sometimes forget about QUAD wins/losses. Just wins and losses alone don't always get you in. We have been bitten so many times this year with bad losses.

 

With our remaining 4 games of the regular season, there are opportunities to get 3 quad 1 wins and a quad 2. That's 2 home and 2 away. I just don't see that happening.

Below is a list of all wins and losses so far, from quad 1 through quad 4.

Quad 1 

Record: 1-8

L	57-77	Neutral	(3)		5 UConn
L	76-104	Neutral	(7)		Auburn
L	71-75	Home	(14)		2 Kansas
L	70-86	Away	(41)		Nebraska
L	66-87	Home	(2)		2 Purdue
L	79-91	Away	(22)		11 Wisconsin
L	62-70	Away	(17)		10 Illinois
W	76-73	Away	(66)		Ohio St.
L	59-79	Away	(2)		2 Purdue

Quad 2 

Record: 4-4

W	65-53	Home	(67)		Maryland
W	78-75	Away	(120)		Michigan
W	71-65	Home	(66)		Ohio St.
L	57-66	Away	(98)		Rutgers
W	74-68	Home	(60)		Iowa
L	72-76	Home	(53)		Northwestern
L	70-85	Home	(41)		Nebraska
L	74-83	Away	(96)		Penn St.

Quad 3 

Record: 3-1

W	89-80	Home	(144)		Wright St.
W	69-68	Home	(118)		Morehead St.
W	74-62	Home	(78)		Minnesota
L	71-85	Home	(96)		Penn St.

Quad 4 

Record: 6-0

W	69-63	Home	(262)		FGCU
W	72-64	Home	(332)		Army West Point
W	74-66	Neutral	(206)		Louisville
W	89-76	Home	(180)		Harvard
W	83-66	Home	(257)		North Ala.
W	100-87	Home	(253)		Kennesaw St.

Upcoming

Q1	Home	(22)		Wisconsin	02/27/2024
Q1	Away	(67)		Maryland	03/03/2024
Q2	Away	(78)		Minnesota	03/06/2024
Q1	Home	(24)		Michigan St.	03/10/2024

 

 

 

We may be solely responsible for Holtman losing his job.

[KNOBYDOX]

52 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

You learn quickly young grasshopper.

He is obviously a lot younger than I am, but I learned how to follow steps. Thank you.

[FortWayneHoosier]

11 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

That's when players and coaches get frustrated because they sometimes forget about QUAD wins/losses. Just wins and losses alone don't always get you in. We have been bitten so many times this year with bad losses.

 

With our remaining 4 games of the regular season, there are opportunities to get 3 quad 1 wins and a quad 2. That's 2 home and 2 away. I just don't see that happening.

Below is a list of all wins and losses so far, from quad 1 through quad 4.

Quad 1 

Record: 1-8

L	57-77	Neutral	(3)		5 UConn
L	76-104	Neutral	(7)		Auburn
L	71-75	Home	(14)		2 Kansas
L	70-86	Away	(41)		Nebraska
L	66-87	Home	(2)		2 Purdue
L	79-91	Away	(22)		11 Wisconsin
L	62-70	Away	(17)		10 Illinois
W	76-73	Away	(66)		Ohio St.
L	59-79	Away	(2)		2 Purdue

Quad 2 

Record: 4-4

W	65-53	Home	(67)		Maryland
W	78-75	Away	(120)		Michigan
W	71-65	Home	(66)		Ohio St.
L	57-66	Away	(98)		Rutgers
W	74-68	Home	(60)		Iowa
L	72-76	Home	(53)		Northwestern
L	70-85	Home	(41)		Nebraska
L	74-83	Away	(96)		Penn St.

Quad 3 

Record: 3-1

W	89-80	Home	(144)		Wright St.
W	69-68	Home	(118)		Morehead St.
W	74-62	Home	(78)		Minnesota
L	71-85	Home	(96)		Penn St.

Quad 4 

Record: 6-0

W	69-63	Home	(262)		FGCU
W	72-64	Home	(332)		Army West Point
W	74-66	Neutral	(206)		Louisville
W	89-76	Home	(180)		Harvard
W	83-66	Home	(257)		North Ala.
W	100-87	Home	(253)		Kennesaw St.

Upcoming

Q1	Home	(22)		Wisconsin	02/27/2024
Q1	Away	(67)		Maryland	03/03/2024
Q2	Away	(78)		Minnesota	03/06/2024
Q1	Home	(24)		Michigan St.	03/10/2024

 

 

 

There is a very serious possibility that we lose every one of those games. 

[Hornsby]

Woodson's quotes just now in his presser were absolutely pathetic. This one especially:
“It would have been nice to have Xavier Johnson. … Every year I’ve coached, when things don’t go well, I point the finger at me.”

Woodson says he doesn’t blame the players and adds, “but I don’t miss wide open shots. I don’t miss free throws.”

Unreal last I checked Penn state and northwestern had guys out also. I cannot believe we gotta put up with another year of this nonsense

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[Hornsby]

You can tell he is being coached, and you can tell he's not liking it. That's why he has to add but I don't miss wide open shots and those things

Quinn is trying to help him save his job. Man is next year going to be ugly.

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[cbp4iu]

29 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Direct quote from Woody's weekly presser:

Question: "You mentioned after the Penn State game that you weren't only upset with the way you played, but with the way you coached. Is there anything you looked at specifically that you could have done differently when you kind of look at the season as a whole right now?"

Answer: "Well, it'd be nice to have Xavier Johnson to help me. You know when I coach every year I've coached when things don't go well I point the finger at me... (30 seconds later) ... Even though I don't miss wide-open jump shots and free throws, I'm still a big part of it."

Oof.

He's gotta stop blaming not having Xavier Johnson. He's just gotta. 

Now if he had Newton Iu is a 1 seed.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Not looking forward to Michigan State as our last game of the regular season.  Izzo will start Xavier Booker and he'll probably drop a triple double on us.

[Henryville Hoosier]

1 minute ago, cbp4iu said:

Now if he had Newton Iu is a 1 seed.

Newton reminds me of a player Dusty would have on his team. 

[RaceToTheTop]

29 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Isn't that how the buyouts are typically structured? And for a "lump sum" payout up front, that's typically a negotiated settlement. (re: Tom Allen)... and of ourse, if it's paid out over time, it's offset by any future earnings... but doubtful Woodson would get another job... he could always hand a shingle as "The Hump Doctor" :D 

Sometimes they are structured like that, sometimes not.  But regardless of how they are structured, they can be negotiated to be paid out differently later.

[Kentuckysucks]

43 minutes ago, Trish said:

https://x.com/coachadragna/status/1762146488652611862?s=46
 

Woodson must go ASAP. 

Miss me now?