They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[CSP]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Ok? You're situation had nothing to do with Beard's situation? What relevant point were you trying to make? Because you were falsely arrested he might have been falsely arrested?

Yeah that's not what happened.

My issue is... how do YOU know? The police report? 

Just now, AH1971 said:

What could possibly justify laying hands on a woman? The answer is never.

Looks like you're fishing for a reason to justify why Beard did what he did? No?

I fully believe you've convinced yourself of that, yes. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

I don't think some of us are even necessarily pro beard. We just think someone is afforded the right to a trial before being found guilty. But if beard got some of the guys on here on his jury he would be toast. There is zero chance they could be unbiased. They already have their minds made up.

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I wouldn’t call myself pro Beard. I’m pro IU not sucking anymore and Beard would accomplish that. Other coaches can accomplish that goal. I just have no confidence in Dolson/IU landing said coach. It’s going to be brutal watching us hire yet another dud when Beard is thirsting for the job. 

[Hornsby]

If I’m Chris Beard I’m not sure which would be worse… having some BTB members on the jury, or having some BTB members as my defense counsel. Lol 

It would not be a jury. They would vote guilty before the opening statements. I sure as heck would not what any of these guys deciding my fate if let's say I got charged with a made up assault. I'd be guilty no matter what. Unbiased jury. Lol.

 

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[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

She has no baggage. That's priority number one.

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We know being a good coach isn't a priority, if it was this thread wouldn't exist because Woodson wouldn't have been hired.

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

My issue is... how do YOU know?

Because neither Beard nor his girlfriend deny that he put his hands on her. 

The charges being dropped are a non-starter for me. You put your hands on a woman, you shouldn't be coaching college basketball.

My opinion isn't going to change. 

[wirenuts]

Wow. This would be whittens call. I would imagine the vetting process is extreme for obvious reasons. 

I don't think he gets hired, I dont think wade gets hired along with pitino, Sean miller, Bill self etc etc. 

Obviously IU prides itself on optics. I would have thought that would be obvious since they haven't fired Mike Woodson yet

[HoosierAccipiter]

YAWN!

 

let. It. Go. Or seriously, take the debate somewhere else. We get it. we understand your point of view to nauseam. There’s been 10 pages of this s**t show now. 

[Hoosier DaDa]

4 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Mike Woodson would never bother doing such a thing for the lowly students. 

https://twitter.com/iubloomington/status/1886916165852655710?s=46&t=LoczziaTWuqlhvyvHGT92A

There is no reason to Woodson has already done his job.  

[AZ Hoosier]

23 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'll ask you this... ever had the police completely botch a situation/not get the full story and you spent a night in jail because of it? And then those charged were dropped within the week because they were COMPLETE bogus to begin with? 

I have. 

and yet here you are, still pumping certified sunshine :D :D :D 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

34 minutes ago, VFury said:

I've never choked a kid, but I still liked Knight as the head coach of IU, and I bet you do too.

Actually, once i saw the video(albeit a couple years after it was released, I told my wife it was time for him to go when he did that and the video was released. 

[HinnyHoosier]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Hoosier Pride said:

Alright mods, isn't it time to shut down the domestic violence discussion or move it to another thread? I'm tired of scrolling through slap fights about this when we haven't even fired CMW yet.... I'm all for discussing potential candidates but this has gotten out of hand

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But it's boosting our page count...

But really. We can all shuddup about it now.

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, Hornsby said:

Serious question for the holier than thou crowd. If beard is hired will you quit watching and supporting IU out of principle? I would think morally you would have too if what you say holds any water.
 

Yes, I've already stated that in this thread that I would not only stop watching and supporting the basketball team, I would actively root against them. After the last 25-30 years, it wouldn't be nearly as hard as it would've been 25 years ago. They might not get me back as a fan.

I would still root for other IU sports like football, soccer, swimming, and women's basketball.

This thread going off the rails is why I'm even more confident now that Beard will not be IU's next coach unless the IU brass want to fracture the fan base. I know they don't read this board but they have to be aware what the effect of hiring someone with Beard's background of domestic violence would be.

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Hornsby said:

So am I. Especially after Duke lacrosse. I can't even imagine the meltdown on here by some if we hire beard. Because he is guilty guilty guilty to them. No trial needed . In fact they would likely vote guilty before opening statements

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Not going to go deep into the Beard situation, but two things can be true at the same time.  He could have beaten his girl friend, as the police report and pictures suggest.  The could also not be enough evidence to arise to a criminal conviction -- mitigating circumstances are a defense.  Bottom line, there are enough guys that can coach out there we don't need the baggage that Beard brings.  Carry on.  

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

28 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'll ask you this... ever had the police completely botch a situation/not get the full story and you spent a night in jail because of it? And then those charged were dropped within the week because they were COMPLETE bogus to begin with? 

I have. 

Can't say I have.  I've only had a couple of speeding tickets(way back in my younger days). Only time I've seen the inside of a county jail or prison, was when I went on a couple of tours to see what we woukd be doing as National Guard soldiers in case Corecction officers w we nt on strike.

With your post, I can understand why you are want to know exactly what happened. 

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Not going to go deep into the Beard situation, but two things can be true at the same time.  He could have beaten his girl friend, as the police report and pictures suggest.  The could also not be enough evidence to arise to a criminal conviction -- mitigating circumstances are a defense.  Bottom line, there are enough guys that can coach out there we don't need the baggage that Beard brings.  Carry on.  

Ding ding ding 

[iu eyedoc]

18 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

What could possibly justify laying hands on a woman? The answer is never.

Looks like you're fishing for a reason to justify why Beard did what he did? No?

Another know a nothing talking in absolutes. Shocking.

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, Hornsby said:

Good you would need to. You have to practice what you preach. I have never been arrested or charged with a crime but I don't consider myself morally superior to anyone. Plenty of born again Christians who have done really bad things in their past. I am not one to judge others, but hey that's just me.

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You're the one calling those opposed to Beard being hired as "holier than thou crowd." That is literally judging others. I guess we'll add "judge" to the list of words you use without understanding them.

[Hornsby]

After watching last night's highlights did Woodson tell them not to attempt getting over the hump last night? The early three pointers wisconsin had were so wide opennits as if it was 5 on 3. Man I gotta get these guys to understand you gotta bring it. But it's early in the season.

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[VFury]

10 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Actually, once i saw the video(albeit a couple years after it was released, I told my wife it was time for him to go when he did that and the video was released. 

Yeah sure you did. So you were not OK with that, but OK with him fighting a cop, shouting at opposing team fans, throwing chairs, using a whip on a player, firing a starting pistol at a reporter though?

[IndianaSconnie90]

Holy smokes you folks putting up some pages today