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Just now, Home Jersey said:

On Monday morning, this thread was on page 1771. We will almost certainly pass page 1900 tonight. 

You guys are great and all (for the most part) but I'm starting to rethink my lifestyle choices... lol

We’re gonna need Stu to make a rehab thread for us after he actually gets canned.

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

Chris Jans doesn’t get thrown out there very much.  He actually makes the same as Bigfoot.  Would not mind at all if we could pull him out the SEC.

Jans was fired from Bowling Green for inappropriate behavior in a bar.  IU would be looking elsewhere.

Posted
57 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

That wouldn’t happen to be the same year that he was being suspended for making “strong-@ss offers” would it?

Just to answer your question, which I thought was a fair one, Wade was suspended for the final 5 games of 2018-19.  That included the final regular season game that LSU won and clinched the outright conference championship, an SEC tournament game that they lost, and 3 NCAA tournament games.

Posted
8 minutes ago, VFury said:

If he were only good the years he had Edey I would have taken this comment seriously.

Before Edey there was Haarms. Before that Haas. 
You get the idea. That is if you seriously want to look at the pattern 

Posted
43 minutes ago, VFury said:

Matt Painter is a very forward thinking coach, the fact he's an alum is just a happy coincidence. Also, he coached 12 years before advancing past the sweet 16 and completely bottomed out for 2 years. we would have fired him long before he became as successful as he has been.

We might have fired him after the two straight missed tourneys. Maybe not though - he was still really young, he was an alum, and he had multiple very successful seasons before that downturn.

We absolutely would not have fired him at any point in years 9-12, when he went 12-6 / 12-6 / 14-4 / 15-3 in the Big Ten, even though he was underperforming in the tourney.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Shooter said:

We might have fired him after the two straight missed tourneys. Maybe not though - he was still really young, he was an alum, and he had multiple very successful seasons before that downturn.

We absolutely would not have fired him at any point in years 9-12, when he went 12-6 / 12-6 / 14-4 / 15-3 in the Big Ten, even though he was underperforming in the tourney.

Yea.  And really this is such a tough hypothetical, Matt would be able to recruit better players at IU so perhaps his peaks and valleys would both be higher — good chance he could have had a great run here.

Posted
2 hours ago, Silat Player said:

To be fair, the fans gave both Woodson and Crean more time than they probably should have. Crean deserved a lot more criticism than he received, especially in year 3. That was a much worse year than it should've been. He should have been facing some heat then, but he did have some better players coming in, so that mitigated things a bit, but the team showed some regression that year. 

And Woodson's coaching issues were very evident early in his coaching tenure.

IU fans have gotten a bad reputation among B1G fans for not being patient...

I think that is an important observation.  I was disappointed with Crean's 3rd year -- I wanted incremental improvement and it was flat.  But you could see he was building something.  And then he went on that little run for several years.  Fans didn't act up until that run faded and he had difficulty getting any consistency.  You could see things falling apart and it was time to move on.  

Posted
Just now, Golfman25 said:

I think that is an important observation.  I was disappointed with Crean's 3rd year -- I wanted incremental improvement and it was flat.  But you could see he was building something.  And then he went on that little run for several years.  Fans didn't act up until that run faded and he had difficulty getting any consistency.  

Zeller commitment got him through year 3. Actual Zeller got him through 4 & 5. Pretty rough after that.

Posted
2 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Of course you can win big overnight, but that shouldn’t be the expectation or even the #1 priority year 1. Getting a guy in here who can establish a culture and identify 9-10 guys who all fit that culture should be the #1 priority. And then build from there. If it results in 15 wins, so be it. But we can’t or won’t accept that it make take 2 maybe 3 seasons until the old culture is completely overhauled. 
 

I know what we’ve done the last 25 or so years and it’s never worked. 

Uh, you can change the culture in one year.  And, with the right processes in place, winning will follow.  

Source: Curt Cignetti  

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