They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Scotty R]

1 hour ago, IU22 said:

Dusty May on the Dakich show...IU really shi*t the bed not getting that guy.

Did also here DD play the Woodson press conference from last night and compared to the one of RMK after we won at NW in 87. Want to talk about a contrast in coaching styles. RMK was ripping on Alford for the lack of leadership and in this game he broke the IU all time scoring record

[Scotty R]

10 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Fear is a tool of the weak-minded. Respect vs fear has a clear winner. No person needs to try and make someone fear them.

Worked for RMK, it is just today's players are coddled and soft

[Hornsby]

Worked for RMK, it is just today's players are coddled and soft

That's an understatement.

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[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, hper50 said:

My brothers in Christ @Chris007 & @JerryYeagley23 is there any chance of a Friday PM news drop tomorrow. Would be the best birthday present ever for ya boy

I would be surprised if there was. I have not been able to get much info other than there is a plan and timing is everything. 

[Stuhoo]

12 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Worked for RMK, it is just today's players are coddled and soft

Worked for RMK; BUT today's players are not necessarily coddled and soft.

And a less disciplinarian coach than RMK can also win. Guys like Dean Smith, Wooden, Jay Wright, or for that matter, Brad Stevens and Dusty May have been invariably even-keeled and not especially harsh to players.

A coach needs to be really smart, really motivated, really competitive, and really hard-working. If that happens, the coach's team will reflect those traits. Identifying and recruiting guys that have or that can develop those traits is an important skill too.

[TheWatShot]

17 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Did also here DD play the Woodson press conference from last night and compared to the one of RMK after we won at NW in 87. Want to talk about a contrast in coaching styles. RMK was ripping on Alford for the lack of leadership and in this game he broke the IU all time scoring record

Dakich played that same clip years ago and compared it to Archie Miller after a loss at Maryland, where Miller did nothing but praise Maryland's players. Amazing how 7 years later nothing has changed. 

[deserthoosier]

Bosnian player to IU?!?! Extend Woody!

Edited January 23, 2025 by deserthoosier

[Golfman25]

29 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Fear is a tool of the weak-minded. Respect vs fear has a clear winner. No person needs to try and make someone fear them.

This guy might want to have a sit down :) 

 

 

[AZ Hoosier]

43 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

This may be more old school...but coaches need to strike a bit of fear into their players. Sitting them on the bench is a good start...If not, then you're liable of having the players run the program. Clearly, grandpa is a term, you wouldn't want for the coach coaching/managing your favorite team or school. Now father figure can be different, because father's instill discipline, grandpas? not so much. Of all the great managers, and coaches...Joe Torre, Bob Knight, Coach K, Scotty Bowman...etc, I'm pretty sure not one of them has ever been likened to a player's "Grandpa."

Maybe Woodson has a pocket full of Werthers for the kids on the team. :D 

[AZ Hoosier]

31 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Fear is a tool of the weak-minded. Respect vs fear has a clear winner. No person needs to try and make someone fear them.

I assumed "fear" as in "fear of God" - respectful awe... but I could also be wrong. It happens (ask my wife).

[mamasa]

51 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Worked for RMK, it is just today's players are coddled and soft

Knight was, by definition, a sociopath. He was good coach. Not a great or good man. Today's players train harder, train more, and are more advanced than any other generation. Just because you don't let some grown man act like a jackass to you doesn't mean you're soft. Coddled? Because they know their worth and take advantage of it?

[AZ Hoosier]

25 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Did also here DD play the Woodson press conference from last night and compared to the one of RMK after we won at NW in 87. Want to talk about a contrast in coaching styles. RMK was ripping on Alford for the lack of leadership and in this game he broke the IU all time scoring record

So, apparently, the proverbial acorn does fall far from the tree.

[Hornsby]

Bosnian player to IU?!?! Extend Woody!

That's why Woodson makes the big bucks. Just let him cook! But I wonder how much that kid cost the cooks? I assume Ferguson negotiated the money.

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[Hoosierfan2017]

5 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Knight was, by definition, a sociopath. He was good coach. Not a great or good man man. Today's players train harder, train more, and are more advanced than any other nation. Just because you don't let some grown man act like a jackass to you doesn't mean you're soft. Coddled? Because they know their worth and take advantage of it?

Bob Knight’s approach wouldn’t work in 2025. It didn’t really work in the 90s. But my ideal coach would be a lot closer to Bob Knight than he’d be to Mike Woodson. 

[Chris007]

14 minutes ago, deserthoosier said:

Bosnian player to IU?!?! Extend Woody!

I'm guessing he committing to IU. His agent knows everything that is going on. No matter who the coach will be our NIL is better than those other schools

[BlueDevil]

At the very least I can’t imagine any world where Indiana University sticks a microphone in Mike Woodsons hands on senior day and lets him speak to a crowd that will boo the living hell out of him. He won’t make it to the end.

[Hornsby]

I'm guessing he committing to IU. His agent knows everything that is going on. No matter who the coach will be our NIL is better than those other schools

Just let Woodson cook!!!!!!!!! Quinn must be on cloud nine

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[Hoosier987]

16 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Knight was, by definition, a sociopath. He was good coach. Not a great or good man man. Today's players train harder, train more, and are more advanced than any other nation. Just because you don't let some grown man act like a jackass to you doesn't mean you're soft. Coddled? Because they know their worth and take advantage of it?

Knight was imperfect, but so many of his former players would disagree with you. There's been countless of stories, including from Woodson, of how much love and support Knight gave them during and post college. As Isaiah Thomas famously said “Outside of my mother, [Bobby Knight]’s had the greatest impact on my life.”

[mamasa]

3 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Knight was imperfect, but so many of his former players would disagree with you. There's been countless of stories, including from Woodson, of how much love and support Knight gave them during and post college. As Isaiah Thomas famously said “Outside of my mother, [Bobby Knight]’s had the greatest impact on my life.”

That's great, but I knew Knight personally through my family. My experiences with him were less than "greatest impact"- some good, lots of cringe. Not here to debate Knight.

[schoosier]

23 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Knight was, by definition, a sociopath. He was good coach. Not a great or good man man. Today's players train harder, train more, and are more advanced than any other nation. Just because you don't let some grown man act like a jackass to you doesn't mean you're soft. Coddled? Because they know their worth and take advantage of it?

Good coach lol.