They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby]

The TJD and Ware development narrative was likely nonsense.  With those talents, it was a matter of time until they figured it out, yet the pro-Woody crowd latched on to the idea he was a player developer because they didn’t have much else to celebrate.
And of course, this broken program did a poor job with a long list of players.

Tjd saved him. Without him he would be o for 4 on tournies

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[IUFAN1976]

3 hours ago, Hornsby said:

What's even more comical is we could pay a coach half what we pay Woodson and spend half the nil and still probably have the same results

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Probably better.  I remember Crean’s first 3 years, those teams didnt have the quality of players but they played much harder than this team and competed in a lot of games.  I wonder how good Crean’s first teams would have been if he had NIL and the transfer portal 

[Hornsby]

Probably better.  I remember Crean’s first 3 years, those teams didnt have the quality of players but they played much harder than this team and competed in a lot of games.  I wonder how good Crean’s first teams would have been if he had NIL and the transfer portal 

Crean is a far better coach than Woodson. So was Davis. Archie is the closest to Woodson but would probably be better with nil.

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[Golfman25]

14 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Crean is a far better coach than Woodson. So was Davis. Archie is the closest to Woodson but would probably be better with nil.

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Archie is a way better coach than woodson. His “system” works at smaller schools in smaller conferences.  He like many coaches failed to adapt to the big time.  

[IUFAN1976]

19 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Crean is a far better coach than Woodson. So was Davis. Archie is the closest to Woodson but would probably be better with nil.

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Isn’t Archie 11-1 at Rhode Island?  

[JF87]

1 hour ago, hoosierbannerd said:

I think X was a headcase regardless of the coach.. I think he is 2nd to Woody for being detrimental for the program... JMO...

X had some talent and moments.  He played out of control at times.  X won us a few games and cost us a few games.  I would have preferred that we had developed Rob Phinisee.  Rob was one of my favorite players.  I love that Rob was instrumental in beating Purdue.  

[JSHoosier]

20 minutes ago, JF87 said:

X had some talent and moments.  He played out of control at times.  X won us a few games and cost us a few games.  I would have preferred that we had developed Rob Phinisee.  Rob was one of my favorite players.  I love that Rob was instrumental in beating Purdue.  

Xavier Johnson had some physical talent, mentally he was a bag of rats in a house fire. Also might be a prime example of there being no accountability under Woodson.

[Hornsby]

Isn’t Archie 11-1 at Rhode Island?  

Yeah but the last two years he stunk

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[TheWatShot]

23 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Isn’t Archie 11-1 at Rhode Island?  

11-2 after opening conference play in style today by scoring 55 points against previously 5-8 Duquesne. 

[coonhounds]

Now back to getting this dude fired!!!!!!

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[ap2345]

18 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Now back to getting this dude fired!!!!!!

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No need, retirements coming 

[spe317]

Retirement would alleviate some if not most future financial considerations, correct?

[JF87]

1 minute ago, spe317 said:

Retirement would alleviate some if not most future financial considerations, correct?

IMO, any Woodson retirement will give him a golden parachute on the way out the door.  

[JF87]

17 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

No need, retirements coming 

I'd be fine with changing the thread name to Fire/Retire Coach Woodson thread.  :)

[Pagoda]

Just now, JF87 said:

IMO, any Woodson retirement will give him a golden parachute on the way out the door.  

Yea, if he is fired end of this season IU has to pay him his remaining contract of $8.4M.  However, we only have to pay $1M/yr until that amount is paid off, which helps.

[str8baller]

3 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

This convo really makes me want to start a topic on players whose potential was wasted over the last 8 years.  We know Woody is a terrible coach what could a good coach or moderate coach have done with him. 

Kind of surprised people are down on Goode and Carlyle. Goode is a known commodity from a solid program and good coach. Seems beyond obvious Woody/IU is failing him not vice versa. I suspect Carlyle can be a good P5 guard, too. I hope he sticks around. 

[JF87]

14 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Kind of surprised people are down on Goode and Carlyle. Goode is a known commodity from a solid program and good coach. Seems beyond obvious Woody/IU is failing him not vice versa. I suspect Carlyle can be a good P5 guard, too. I hope he sticks around. 

I think both players would be improved in a better system.  

[coonhounds]

Kind of surprised people are down on Goode and Carlyle. Goode is a known commodity from a solid program and good coach. Seems beyond obvious Woody/IU is failing him not vice versa. I suspect Carlyle can be a good P5 guard, too. I hope he sticks around. 

Yea i mean I don't judge these kids to much. Same show year after year fault the coaches. Imo Archie equals woodson. Similar problems hopefully it's not to deep

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[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Yea i mean I don't judge these kids to much. Same show year after year fault the coaches. Imo Archie equals woodson. Similar problems hopefully it's not to deep

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Next coach needs to clean house, right down to Clif Marshall. Woodson kept Marshall and some assistants that Miller had, don't make that mistake again.

[ap2345]

1 hour ago, spe317 said:

Retirement would alleviate some if not most future financial considerations, correct?

Idk because there’s more to it than just retiring