They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[AH1971]

6 minutes ago, DoctorP said:

Here’s the rub man. Questioning Stevens’ commitment to the grind or to recruit is rich coming from you given that you held water for our current coach all summer and through much of this disaster of a season. 
A coach who has actually shown ZERO commitment to the grind or to recruiting. 

Stop bringing up hypothetical concerns when you completely ignored them for your preferred guy. Your credibility is in the ******* toilet 

IDGAF what you think

[CSP]

Just now, AH1971 said:

IDGAF what you think

I hope if Dolson questions Brad Stevens work ethic/committment level, Brad gets up, walks out and laughs in Scotts face and tells him we deserve the hell hole we're in. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

IDGAF what you think

“Visceral”

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I hope if Dolson questions Brad Stevens work ethic/committment level, Brad gets up, walks out and laughs in Scotts face and tells him we deserve the hell hole we're in. 

He's not been interested in the job either of the last two times its been open. I think it goes without being said where his heart lies. 

But I'm not going to stop you from thinking the third time is the charm. 

[Trish]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I will add that Brad has told people he misses the aspects of coaching and wants to do it again. 

This is similar information to what I messaged Chris earlier. 

[Kentuckysucks]

9 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Ferguson.  Chairman of Cook Medical, former Chair of BoT, etc. and was a mentor to Woody a long time ago or something like that, I can't remember, but they're close.  Buckner and Ferguson pushed the Woody hire here.  Apparently IUBB is their personal sandbox and they can appoint their old pal to be coach.  Very poor behavior from them.

Ferguson has to be like 85 years old at this point, right?  How much influence can he have?

[Home Jersey]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

IDGAF what you think

You and I are fairly closely aligned on a good number of IUBB related things, but you can’t seriously expect everyone to let you off the hook about Woodson after all your huffing and puffing. Not that easily / quickly. Might you enjoy the board more if it were less combative? We all have to be able to laugh at ourselves sometimes… You still have those “receipts” by the way? :) 

[AH1971]

17 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Brad Stevens discourse is sooo tired. Would be great if he comes here, sure. Until I see it with my own eyes, I can’t get excited about it. I’d rather talk about all the candidates who wouldn’t necessarily win the press conference than the handful we know that would. Wake me up in March…

Chris Beard, Chris Mack, and Will Wade wouldn't win many press conferences but all have giant stones that could handle all the noise that comes with the territory. 

[Chris007]

28 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I'm in the "believe it when I see it" camp on Stevens and IU. That poster was talking about Virginia and I think they have as much a chance with Stevens as I have with Jessica Alba.

I think every IU fan and CBB fan is the I'll believe when I see it category with BS

[Chris007]

26 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Ohh... I can't imagine someone in his position thinking it was a race issue, now, right? lolololol

 

ok ok ok... I'll stop. But.... Doyel stating that is ABSOLUTELY par for the course for that p****. 

He didn't mention anything about race in his article

[monskisprodigy]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Chris Beard, Chris Mack, and Will Wade wouldn't win many press conferences but all have giant stones that could handle all the noise that comes with the territory. 

Mack fell pretty hard at Louisville, pretty fast. 16 mths. after a 24-7 season and number 1 ranking he was canned. 

Still wild how fast that crumbled. 

[Chris007]

18 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Sorry -- having a brain fart.

Who's Steve? 

Ferguson 

[AH1971]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

You and I are fairly closely aligned on a good number of IUBB related things, but you can’t seriously expect everyone to let you off the hook about Woodson after all your huffing and puffing. Not that easily / quickly. Might you enjoy the board more if it were less combative? We all have to be able to laugh at ourselves sometimes… You still have those “receipts” by the way? :) 

Let me off the hook for what? I was very practical and level-headed this summer in saying that Woodson deserved a 4th season and wasn't going to join the mob just yet while readily acknowledging he was now on the clock. I wasn't ready to dance on any graves before Thanksgiving. IU put together a nice little run a few weeks back but could not handle any kind of sustained success. The energy level and effort reflected the last two games signals that the players have quit on their coach. For that, a change is not only needed, but warranted.

It's as simple as that. I didn't buy into the mid-season rumors that Bruce Pearl was leaving Auburn and I didn't take Woodson's comments on senior day at a personal level. 

[Uspshoosier]

14 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I’m going to disagree with you here. Going back twenty years the title has only been won 4x by a single time winner: Bennett, Calipari, Ollie (lol), and Scott Drew. 
 

I hear you however IU has lost the seat at the upper tier table.   IU just needs to work on getting a good coach that gets them in the conversation of competing for the top of the B1G and making second weekend tournament runs.    Worrying about finding a coach that is going win it all quickly or within the first couple of years isn’t likely to happen.  Find a great college basketball lifer that brings back pride and gives fans a chance to watch their team in the second week of the tourney and compete for B1G titles then worry about getting the seat back at the table with the true contenders later.   IU has to grind now just like any other program fighting to get to the top 

[NashvilleHoosier]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think every IU fan and CBB fan is the I'll believe when I see it category with BS

The irony of his initials being "BS" is an underappreciated detail on this journey. I have nothing more to contribute.

[Chris007]

20 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Kathy with a C? 

LOL!!! 

It might be here but I think we debunked this last March

[Home Jersey]

Just now, AH1971 said:

Let me off the hook for what? I was very practical and level-headed this summer in saying that Woodson deserved a 4th season and wasn't going to join the mob just yet while readily acknowledging he was now on the clock. I wasn't ready to dance on any graves before Thanksgiving. IU put together a nice little run a few weeks back but could not handle any kind of sustained success. The energy level and effort reflected the last two games signals that the players have quit on their coach. For that, a change is not only needed, but warranted.

It's as simple as that. I didn't buy into the mid-season rumors that Bruce Pearl was leaving Auburn and I didn't take Woodson's comments on senior day at a personal level. 

You were wrong about what this team would do this year, so people are going to rib you a bit since you were very confident in your assessment. In hindsight, do you still think Woody should have gotten this 4th year? What you’re perceiving as practical and level-headed, some may call missing the forest for the trees. In any case, glad to have everybody aboard the Goodbye Woody train. Look forward to supporting the next coach.

[Chris007]

14 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

He's not been interested in the job either of the last two times its been open. I think it goes without being said where his heart lies. 

But I'm not going to stop you from thinking the third time is the charm. 

[AH1971]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

You were wrong about what this team would do this year, so people are going to rib you a bit since you were very confident in your assessment. In hindsight, do you still think Woody should have gotten this 4th year? What you’re perceiving as practical and level-headed, some may call missing the forest for the trees. In any case, glad to have everybody aboard the Goodbye Woody train. Look forward to supporting the next coach.

Yes I absolutely believe Woodson deserved a 4th season even with hindsight. Firing a coach, especially an alum, after 3 years is terrible optics, considering Archie had just gotten 4 years. Now had Woodson finished with multiple losing seasons, no tournaments, etc it would have been a tougher conversation but you're getting 4 years at IU unless you have a Sampson level scandal. 

[Mopladysman]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He didn't mention anything about race in his article

Not in that article no.  He said in a previous article he did not trust the fan bases intentions (the ones calling for Woodson to be fired).