They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[JSHoosier]

6 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I watched the video. I felt like he gave his own opinion. He said if you watch alot of other teams they are playing harder than iu is for whatever reason. He said he watched auburn and purdue and was impressed how much effort auburn plays with.

Imo woodson says some really stupid stuff. His latest was when someone said iu can't put a 40 minute game together and he disagreed saying we have played a few good 40 minute games and won by alot lol. I have watched every game and we have not had a full 40 minute game. That's hard for any team but for a coach trying to get his kids over a hump he shouldn't be praising anything they have done so far imo

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Maybe he meant total. If you pull out the good stretches from the sleep walking or blowout losses you might get a few 40 minute games in 4 years...might.

[iu eyedoc]

8 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

Winning coaches typically don't plan on losing and sucking for multiple seasons. It's why they're winning coaches. 

 

A winning coach gets right to work and has that car fixed up in no time. Other coaches complain about it, make excuses and blame the car's previous ownership. You can probably guess which ones our last three coaches more closely resemble. 

The point is that had the IU admin  fired both CAM and CMW after  2 year of mediocre  results, they would be raked over the coals for being overly reactionary and no respectable coach would want to deal with such dysfunction. Just as attractive as the facilities and NIL are, a heavy handed fickle administration would repulse them.  IU is far from the irresistible cherry topped sundae most on here think it is.

Woodson absolutely needed to go after 3 seasons, but not because he only made 2 NCAA tourneys(the first 2 times in 8 seasons) but because he is an absolute willful failure at recruiting, lacks any desire to get better at coaching, and has no ability and even less desire to build a competent staff.

[coonhounds]

Maybe he meant total. If you pull out the good stretches from the sleep walking or blowout losses you might get a few 40 minute games in 4 years...might.

I agree but sadly he means this season. We were down at the half by 2 points to a team we beat by nearly 40. Fire this man yesterday [emoji91]

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[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I agree but sadly he means this season. We were down at the half by 2 points to a team we beat by nearly 40. Fire this man yesterday

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Then he's delusional, granted he thinks he's a good coach so there is that.

They only beat Chattanooga by single digits and got dog walked in the Bahamas.

[IUFAN1976]

1 hour ago, Trish said:

Busy time of the year for me with the basketball season here. I try to check in once a week!

I like it though, short, sweet and to the point!  Those 3 words states a lot!

FIRE MIKE WOODSON!!!!

[Ryno6284]

3 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

I would rather listen to Cig anyway.  I hope he writes a book.  From what I can tell he has a great leadership model that he lives and preaches.  

I bet if you read his book you could hear it in that Yinzer accent!

[Hoosier DaDa]

5 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yep each place ended up with a coach that had at least 6 years experience as an assistant coach in the college game.  Davis spent 11 years as an assistant to a Hall of Fame coach before taking over and Scheyer spent close to 8 years under a Hall of Fame coach before taking over (he was hand picked by K).  Pope was head coach at 2 places each a step up before becoming the head coach of Kentucky.  Each coaches where they played only major difference was those guys were college basketball lifers.  I don’t really care if IU can hook an elite coach as long as the next coach has spent his whole career grinding in the college basketball ranks I will be fine with whoever they chose 

I hate to say it but you basically described Archie Miller

[OKHOOSIER]

8 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

I hate to say it you but you basically described Archie Miller

Hindsight is definitely 20/20 when it comes to Archie, at the time, the national media thought it was a slam dunk. I certainly did, he wasn’t my first or second choice, but I was happy with it. Clearly the job was simply too big for him and his personality didn’t mesh with the fish bowl that is being the HC at IU. 
 

Sometimes it simply doesn’t work out, and that’s okay. I’m happy for Archie that he has seemingly found success again at a lower level. He was a hire that made sense. 
 

Hiring Woody never made any sense to anyone. 

[Hornsby]

Hindsight is definitely 20/20 when it comes to Archie, at the time, the national media thought it was a slam dunk. I certainly did, he wasn’t my first or second choice, but I was happy with it. Clearly the job was simply too big for him and his personality didn’t mesh with the fish bowl that is being the HC at IU. 

 

Sometimes it simply doesn’t work out, and that’s okay. I’m happy for Archie that he has seemingly found success again at a lower level. He was a hire that made sense. 

 

Hiring Woody never made any sense to anyone. 

It made sense to quinn and the old brass who hangs out drinking with woodson. This was old guard taking care of one of its own. That's all it was period. If these guys who went 62-1under knight really cared about iu and winning they would want Woodson gone yesterday. Instead it's crickets. I mean let's be honest if it 100% had to be a former player alford was clearly better than Woodson. You may not like alford but he at least had marginal success in college

 

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[JSHoosier]

14 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Hindsight is definitely 20/20 when it comes to Archie, at the time, the national media thought it was a slam dunk. I certainly did, he wasn’t my first or second choice, but I was happy with it. Clearly the job was simply too big for him and his personality didn’t mesh with the fish bowl that is being the HC at IU. 
 

Sometimes it simply doesn’t work out, and that’s okay. I’m happy for Archie that he has seemingly found success again at a lower level. He was a hire that made sense. 
 

Hiring Woody never made any sense to anyone. 

I didn't like the Miller hire at the time, I wanted to see more from him. I could at least see a possibility with him though.

[IUFAN1976]

30 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

It made sense to quinn and the old brass who hangs out drinking with woodson. This was old guard taking care of one of its own. That's all it was period. If these guys who went 62-1under knight really cared about iu and winning they would want Woodson gone yesterday. Instead it's crickets. I mean let's be honest if it 100% had to be a former player alford was clearly better than Woodson. You may not like alford but he at least had marginal success in college

 

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He definitely made more sense than Woodson but he had some issues and baggage but definitely a better hire than Woodson 

[Hornsby]

He definitely made more sense than Woodson but he had some issues and baggage but definitely a better hire than Woodson 

Guys like Joe Hillman screamed and yelled for years that we had to hire an iu guy. Well he doesn't seem so happy these days. I'm guessing he had alford in mind and not woodson.

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[go iu bb]

17 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Guys like Joe Hillman screamed and yelled for years that we had to hire an iu guy. Well he doesn't seem so happy these days. I'm guessing he had alford in mind and not woodson.

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Alford isn't a very good coach, either. Better than Woodson, but that is a very low bar.

[Uspshoosier]

1 hour ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

I hate to say it but you basically described Archie Miller

Yep.   Took a swing and got the hottest name in coaching for that coaching cycle.   Had fans from Ohio st and nc state ticked off they didn’t get him.   Archie didn’t work out however you get back in there and find a coach that is a college basketball lifer and hope it works out.   If it doesn’t you do it again 

[Kentuckysucks]

38 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Guys like Joe Hillman screamed and yelled for years that we had to hire an iu guy. Well he doesn't seem so happy these days. I'm guessing he had alford in mind and not woodson.

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Those calling for an IU guy wanted their IU guy.  Even they never thought IU would be dumb enough to hire Mike freaking Woodson.  Yes they wanted Alford, the only IU guy remotely qualified.

[HoosierHoopster]

On a positive note —

We’re one day closer to the day Woodson is gone

[IUFAN1976]

44 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Guys like Joe Hillman screamed and yelled for years that we had to hire an iu guy. Well he doesn't seem so happy these days. I'm guessing he had alford in mind and not woodson.

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Well they did play and win a National Title together.  

[Stuhoo]

43 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yep.   Took a swing and got the hottest name in coaching for that coaching cycle.   Had fans from Ohio st and nc state ticked off they didn’t get him.   Archie didn’t work out however you get back in there and find a coach that is a college basketball lifer and hope it works out.   If it doesn’t you do it again 

One million percent yes.

Archie Miller did not end up being a good hire, but the decision to hire him was a good one.

[go iu bb]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

One million percent yes.

Archie Miller did not end up being a good hire, but the decision to hire him was a good one.

I'm not so sure about that. Maybe based on his record alone it was a good hire but there were other things that should have been caught in the interviewing process. Like his total lack of personality, that he didn't want to fund raise, etc.

[8bucks]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

Alford isn't a very good coach, either. Better than Woodson, but that is a very low bar.

I think Alford is a good to very good coach. He is consistently above his peers at the mid major level and had some success at the P5 level.  To excel we need a great coach though.